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Large solar eruption: possible electrical effects July 16-17
Space Weather.com ^ | 07/16/2002

Posted on 07/16/2002 10:43:14 AM PDT by cogitator

SOLAR BLAST: Twisted magnetic fields above giant sunspot 30 erupted on Monday, July 15th, at 2005 UT. The explosion sparked a powerful X3-class solar flare and hurled a coronal mass ejection (CME, pictured right) into space. Although the CME was not squarely Earth-directed, it might nevertheless buffet our planet's magnetic field as early as July 16th (although the 17th is more likely). NOAA forecasters estimate a 10% chance of severe geomagnetic activity on Wednesday; sky watchers should be alert for auroras.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aurora; cme; power; solaractivity; sunspot
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What did the President know and when did he know it?
1 posted on 07/16/2002 10:43:14 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
More proof of Global Warming.



2 posted on 07/16/2002 10:46:08 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: cogitator
Love it. You should put "cool gif" in the title!
3 posted on 07/16/2002 10:46:18 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: cogitator
Phenomena like this are just amazing.
4 posted on 07/16/2002 10:46:25 AM PDT by lepton
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To: cogitator
Is that a picture of Barney Frank passing gas?
5 posted on 07/16/2002 10:47:15 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: cogitator
It takes sunlight 8 minutes to get from the Sun to the Earth. Does this come through the US Postal Service?
6 posted on 07/16/2002 10:47:24 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: cogitator
I'm less worried about the eruption than I am about the giant blue dot they placed over the sun.

Who authorized that?

7 posted on 07/16/2002 10:48:05 AM PDT by dead
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To: cogitator
What did the President know and when did he know it?

Wasn't there an infographic at I'm at work (The Onion is blocked by the proxy), so maybe someone else can link the article.

8 posted on 07/16/2002 10:50:15 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: cogitator
My cell phone sucks.
Damn sun.
9 posted on 07/16/2002 10:50:22 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Woops, forgot a quotation mark...should have read:
Wasn't there an infographic at The Onion titled: "Are we doing enough to prevent the July 17 attacks?"

I'm at work (The Onion is blocked by the proxy), so maybe someone else can link the article.

10 posted on 07/16/2002 10:51:06 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: cogitator
Hoooooowee! CQ DX, CQ DX! I'm going to be shooting some skip tonight. Maybe I'll be able to get out to the UK.

All you operators keep your ears open for the Unit 104 in Masachusetts.


11 posted on 07/16/2002 10:51:41 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: dead
Who authorized that?

Fox Sports. It's their 'Solar Tracker' technology. Don't worry, it won't last.

12 posted on 07/16/2002 10:52:29 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
LOL! Well at least I'll be able to tell where the sun is at all times.
13 posted on 07/16/2002 10:54:02 AM PDT by dead
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sky watchers should be alert for auroras.

It's still to light at night to see much by way of auroras here in aurora country.

14 posted on 07/16/2002 10:55:39 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: cogitator
I finally will have a use for my tinfoil hat!
15 posted on 07/16/2002 10:55:44 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: cogitator
Although the CME was not squarely Earth-directed, it might nevertheless buffet our planet's magnetic field as early as July 16th (although the 17th is more likely).

I don't believe it! I haven't noticed any prob@*())(*&^%$#@#$%^&*(_)(*&^%$osdh(*&(*U@(*#HIDN0(U)(^^^@(#H)(*@#)*@U#)(#(@#@()I_@#)_@)#@)#(R_@)#_)@#$_)@($_)@..............................................................................

16 posted on 07/16/2002 10:59:20 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: All
COOL!!!!!!!
17 posted on 07/16/2002 11:00:37 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: dead
the same people that do not like topless carwashes in moscow idaho
18 posted on 07/16/2002 11:01:17 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: cogitator

19 posted on 07/16/2002 11:02:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Now, everyone go back to #$^(*)%## GSDFvsdf sfdddddddd dfg sbvcbvcrtb.
20 posted on 07/16/2002 11:07:54 AM PDT by jae471
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To: cogitator
Looks like a closup of a Lasik surgery...
21 posted on 07/16/2002 11:12:18 AM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: cogitator; All
There are links to take you to real-time solar observations here:

The Sun has a Thousand Faces--- Thread 3

22 posted on 07/16/2002 11:12:20 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Clarinet_King
Ping. Son, get the perspective right. Compare the size of the flare to the size of the sun (blue dot).
23 posted on 07/16/2002 11:18:23 AM PDT by NerdDad
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To: cogitator
Wait a minute, something's wrong here. How can there be a solar flare when it's nighttime and the sun is turned off? Huh? Yeah, I thought you'd find that hard to explain...
24 posted on 07/16/2002 11:31:09 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: cogitator
Nice birthday present.
25 posted on 07/16/2002 11:32:56 AM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: Dog Gone
It takes sunlight 8 minutes to get from the Sun to the Earth. Does this come through the US Postal Service?

You may know this and asked the question in jest, but the CME is not light, it's charged particles (plasma). It has to travel 93 million miles to get here. Now 93 million miles in a day or so may not be lightspeed, but at that speed I'd get from Maryland to the West Coast (scribble scribble) in about 2.5 seconds.

26 posted on 07/16/2002 11:39:47 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Sure, but why would you want to? ;-)
27 posted on 07/16/2002 11:47:09 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: dead
I did.

For you I had them leave a little white circle to mark what you affectionately call your 'Sun'.

Cheers.

28 posted on 07/16/2002 11:47:46 AM PDT by Sundog
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What did the President know

The president knows the sun is that hot, bright thing in the sky. I'd like to know what those three bright points of light are, the ones that move in the movie. There are other less-bright points as well, probably stars. Especially what are the two bright points with a horizontal line through each? And what is the one above the sun?

29 posted on 07/16/2002 11:53:34 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Bogey78O
Happy Birthday! It's "Mygirlsmom's" Mom's birthday too!
30 posted on 07/16/2002 11:57:25 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom
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To: cogitator
The last time this happened the cell phone system in the US WAS totally disrupted.
31 posted on 07/16/2002 12:00:47 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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Sorry. Not till tomorrow. I read it as happening today and tomorrow. Happy Birthday to your Mom nonetheless.
32 posted on 07/16/2002 12:06:00 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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What did the President know and when did he know it?

< democrat=liberal,whacko >
We're all going to die and it's the shrub's fault!
< /democrat >

33 posted on 07/16/2002 12:15:40 PM PDT by Salman
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To: RightWhale
Especially what are the two bright points with a horizontal line through each? And what is the one above the sun?

If you go to the Web site (link in the header), I think that it indicates the points with the lines through them are planets. The bright one above the Sun should be a star.

34 posted on 07/16/2002 12:55:46 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: RightWhale
I had to check. From the Web site:

"The orbiting Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, however, can. SOHO's coronagraph blocks the Sun's blinding glare with an opaque disk, revealing stars, planets and the Sun's faint corona. SOHO captured the above coronagraph image on July 15th. Later this week Mars will join Mercury and Jupiter in the field of view. (Note: the horizontal lines are digital imaging artifacts, not planetary rings.)"

Jupiter is to the left of the Sun, Mercury to the right.

35 posted on 07/16/2002 12:57:39 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: Dog Gone
LMFAO
36 posted on 07/16/2002 1:14:06 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: cogitator
I'm ready.


37 posted on 07/16/2002 1:29:28 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Dog Gone
Sure, but why would you want to? ;-)

Seems to me that going from Maryland to the West Coast in 2.5 seconds should create one hell of a shock wave and sonic boom when you slow down .. if he times it just right he could possibly level SF and LA (And all the attendant Liberals) all at the same time.
I admit there would be a lot of collateral damage (Some Redwoods, condors and a spotted owl or two) and there could be some "friendly Fire" casualtis -- but hey it's the price of doing business ;-)

38 posted on 07/16/2002 1:42:08 PM PDT by commish
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To: commish
Well, there you have it. There is a valid reason, after all.
39 posted on 07/16/2002 2:09:02 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Sabertooth
Yep it is warm. Mr. Sun has been a blowing and going for the last twelve months.

The green weanies are afraid of blowing it big time if they were to shout the global warming sky is falling right now.
40 posted on 07/16/2002 2:12:25 PM PDT by snooker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian
If you painted this guy grey, he would look like the quintessential alien.


41 posted on 07/16/2002 4:13:53 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Field Day?
42 posted on 07/16/2002 4:16:35 PM PDT by relee
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To: Carry_Okie
ping
43 posted on 07/16/2002 4:29:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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What makes this picture all the more stunning,is realizing how Large the Sun really is (it's alot bigger than most people realize) and seeing the CME as it flares away from it.That's what instills the awe in me.
44 posted on 07/16/2002 4:34:05 PM PDT by Pagey
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"It takes sunlight 8 minutes to get from the Sun to the Earth. Does this come through the US Postal Service? "

24 hours divided into 93 million miles equals 3,875,000 miles per hour...Not quite C.

45 posted on 07/16/2002 4:58:23 PM PDT by semaj
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To: semaj
About .005787C, or 1/173C. In MPS that's 1076.382, pretty darn fast, relatively speaking.
46 posted on 07/16/2002 5:29:14 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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The Wed warning is probably just to let us know that the flare up means we are experiencing an increased period of solar disruption over the next several days.

Associated with the outgasing.

The time lag differential as far as the 8 minutes it takes for light traveling through space to reach earth appears to just be the indication of the increased activity.

Obviously earth's magnetosphere reacts in the time it takes for the rays to travel in the vacume in space from the sun to earth.(186,000 mi/sec at 93 million miles- the 8 minutes)

It wouldn't be unusual for such interactions to alter the paths of the magnetic field surrounding the planet as it reacts to the bombardment of cosmic particles.

We could just say earths fields will react accordingly and return to normal when the period of increased activity subsides.
47 posted on 07/16/2002 6:43:26 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
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It takes sunlight 8 minutes to get from the Sun to the Earth. Does this come through the US Postal Service?

The CME takes longer to get here because it consists of particles that have mass, unlike light. The particles move pretty fast but they are significantly slower than light.

48 posted on 07/16/2002 6:54:08 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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But the treehuggers insist that we have the same power to affect our climate that something like this does. They're cracked.
49 posted on 07/16/2002 6:56:02 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: 2sheep

50 posted on 07/16/2002 8:12:02 PM PDT by aSkeptic
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