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Who Were The Knights Templar? (Sunday History Read)
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| Stephen Dafoe and Alan Butler
Posted on 07/21/2002 10:01:31 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Hacksaw
Just another example of the old strategy: demonize it, then take the money.
Kinda like what's happening to tobacco companies lately.
To: Katya
The Knights Templer are seperate from the Scottish Rite. The Knights belong to the York Rite, and the Scottish Rite is the other branch of Masonry.
I belong to the York Rite.
To: Katya
I loved your brief synopsis of Templar history. I had a teacher who taught Masons their own symbolism, entrenched in Templar secrets. She is the only woman I know to have been given a 33degree ring.
There are so many rumors about the Templars. The seal of King Solomon, the coveted holy chalice at Chalice Well in England... One of my favorite states, they exist in secrecy today and their main goal is to protect and when the time is right, bring forth the true heir to Jesus.
To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Medieval History bump
To: Pharmboy; gargoyle; Hacksaw
Did they not give rise to the Scottish Rite side of Freemasonry?The Masonic organization for males under 21 is called The Order of DeMolay. I know, I was one, but even at 16, I could recognize idiotic mumbo-jumbo when I saw it, and I dropped out. =) I think I was the High Left Chamberlain, or some such ridiculous title. They have their degrees, and secret handshakes, and all that crap. Don't ask me to reveal the high secret handshake, though; I might have to report you and you'll be murdered under a bridge at the full moon or something. =)
Ah, the Masons, and the Knights Templar -- the Templars were the original conspiracy crowd. They would have had tinfoil helmets, if it was around in those days.
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07/21/2002 11:08:15 AM PDT
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SR71A
To: Katya
What happened to the Templar Treasure and what happened to the Templar Navy are two of histories mysteries. My personal theory is that a lot of the Templar's ended up in Scotland.
Robert the Bruce got a lot of trained knights out of nowhere in a hurry about the time the Templars disappeared. And Scotland was one of the few places where the edict against the Templars was never enforced.
The Templar were also some of the worlds first archaeologists in that they excavated the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Whatever they took from the site has remained the subject of speculation to this day.
a.cricket
To: contessa machiaveli
My daughter gave me "The Perfect Heresy", by Stephen O'Shea, a beautifully written book on the slaughter of these heretical Christians by the Crusaders. How a corrupt Pope, afraid of their power, forced a war against this saintly group and those that protected them, that led to the genocide of 20,000 men, women and children and the burning of the city of Bezier.
And gave us that infamous quote by the Crusader's leader, "Kill them all, God will know his own".
Absolutely fascinating medieval history.
To: catonsville
How a corrupt Pope, afraid of their power, forced a war against this saintly group and those that protected them, that led to the genocide of 20,000 men, women and children and the burning of the city of Bezier.The Pope's of those days were highly political leaders. In Dante's Inferno, there are several Popes in hell. I am amazed that he got away with writing it when he did.
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07/21/2002 11:20:55 AM PDT
by
Hacksaw
To: Pharmboy
It's good to be the king.
a.cricket
To: Hacksaw
On October 13th, 1307, King Philip had all the Templars arrested on the grounds of heresy Bit of trivia. I believe this was a Friday, and therefore is the direct link to the Friday 13 superstition.
To: dubyaweluvya
Another rumor is that some of the original knights were direct descendents of Jesus. I suppose that's how they'll be able to bring forth his true heir. A descendent.
Rumors abound and we'll never be able to separate fact from fiction unless they, themselves, decide to tell us. I kind of hope they don't. The mystery is part of the fascination.
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posted on
07/21/2002 11:45:11 AM PDT
by
radu
To: Hacksaw
It would seem to me that the only time that I heard of The Knights Templar was in"The Maltese Falcon"!!Very interesting HISTORY READ!!!
To: one_particular_harbour
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To: one_particular_harbour
Well, according to the following scathing review on Amazon, its more than just something being lost in the translation:
From The Boston Review
If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, a modicum may have even greater perils. Eco parades themes -- including the double, the direction of time, and the effects of modern science upon morality -- but his ostentatious presentation, coupled with his scant narrative powers, suggests nothing so much as a dumbed-down lecture for high-school students of selected problems in philosophy. A grab-bag full of cute Scholastic arguments, tinkering Jesuits, and cartoon historical figures, The Island of the Day Before sheds no new light on any of Eco's chosen themes.
Copyright © 1996, Boston Review. All rights reserved.
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To: Hacksaw
Christianity eats its own for the 1 billionth time in history.
To: Hacksaw
On October 13th, 1307, King Philip had all the Templars arrested on the grounds of heresy, since this was the only charge that would allow the seizing of their money and assets. The Templars were tortured and as a result, ridiculous confessions were given. The govenment misused the law as a tool for asset forfeiture? I'm glad that can't happen anymore. </sarcasm>
To: dubyaweluvya
My interest in the Knights Templar, the monastic life, and knighthood has always been more pragmatic social history....ie. Knighthood and service as a rung to the middle class. The monasteries created towns, schools and the need for trained knights guaranteed a boy of modest means the avenue for progress and property. This was entirely a western invention not based on any caste system. I wonder how much of the persecutions were a result of the fear by the papacy/aristocracy of this rise of the individual.
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07/21/2002 12:54:25 PM PDT
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Katya
To: Hacksaw
If you have an interest in bizarre mideval conspiracy theory (and who doesn't) do a google search on "Rennes le chateau"
The story never ends but find out about how Mary Magdelen became the mother of the French royal house
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