Posted on 07/22/2002 6:37:23 AM PDT by robowombat
I agree. We need to be very vocal about not changing this law!
In Texas we have Texas Rangers, Highway Patrol, County Sheriffs, Constables, City Police, School Dist. Police..ack!
Do we we really need the military as well? If so, then can we get rid of some of these other agencies?
They are already allowed to fight against foreign soldiers. Heck, that's their job.
If Liberals would agree, as you state, that foriegn nationals plotting to commit acts of terror are "soldiers", and therefore legitimate targets for our military, I would be comfortable with the implication of your statement. Unfortunately, Liberals talk of due process for these foriegn nationals and don't categorize them as soldiers.
For instance, if a national gaurdsman had shot the Arab terrorist at LAX two weeks ago rather than El Al security, there would be a furor in the press about the unlawful nature of the militaries action. One wonders whether the gaurdsman would have been charged.
This is dangerous ground. More Feds with more guns and more laws doesn't amuse me.
It appears to me that this latest news is clearly indicating where the Republic is headed.
It is interesting to note that more of the US Constitution has been destroyed piece by piece under the Bush administration in the first two years than was accomplished by Clinton in his entire first term.
Ted Kennedy equated the INS's stricter controls on Arab visas to our illegal determent of Japanese Americans during WWII... w/ this type of hyperbole and a press willing to consume and disseminate it what do we do?
Facts are facts. What do I care whether "Liberals" (I'm assuming you mean leftists?) "agree" with facts? I'm talking about facts. A foreign national poised to commit large scale acts of violence against the citizens of this country is, by definition, making war against us. It is the job of the military to fight back against such people.
Unfortunately, Liberals talk of due process for these foriegn nationals and don't categorize them as soldiers.
Those leftists are simply wrong. What else is new?
For instance, if a national gaurdsman had shot the Arab terrorist at LAX two weeks ago rather than El Al security, there would be a furor in the press about the unlawful nature of the militaries action.
Perhaps. So what?
One wonders whether the gaurdsman would have been charged.
I seriously doubt it.
We have. It's just a highly irregular army populated largely by brainwashed idiots who have trouble even lighting their own shoes on fire. Nevertheless, we have been invaded all the same.
B-b-b-but this can't be true! The Movies tell me so.</sarcasm>
If another terrorist shoe drops then all bets are off. We will in all likelyhood revert back to a WWII style suspension of normality at a minimum.
BTW, being a non-citizen does not equate to illegal alien. I personaly know a "southern" female serving in the Dakotas and her husband is with her. Fine people of great moral character and definatly not illegal.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
They're sound asleep, and I don't care to save their a$$. Shrug, baby, shrug.
The fedgov will do this to all of us rather than commit the PC horror of focusing on muslim immigrants.
And many of the freshly minted foreign born soldiers will barely speak English, and have no awareness of the Bill of Rights.
“…The White House has instructed lawyers at the departments of Defense and Justice to analyze federal laws on the books that restrict the military's role in law enforcement on U.S. shores, the paper reported.
Congress assigned to federal troops a large role in law enforcement in the 11 Confederate states after the Civil War, tasks such as guarding election polling places, arresting members of the Ku Klux Klan, and halting the production of illegal moonshine and the fomenting of labor strife.
The Posse Comitatus Act was enacted in 1878 to eliminate military enforcement of the civil law, effectively ending Reconstruction…”
Federal troops weren’t used to enforce American civil law in any of the United States after the “Civil” war.
Get the facts right, please. American Federal troops were used to enforce foreign laws on a conquered nation.
If Senator Biden gets his way, the military will have a power that they have never enjoyed before; the power of enforcing civilian laws inside the borders of the United States.
Wrong, they have already done that.
As far as we know they still do.
To: robowombat
I heard Biden on Sunday morning on Fox discussing this new power. He said it would be necessary for the military to foil any plot using a weapon of mass destruction. Under current law, for instance, if an Arab terrorist were attempting to detonate a suitcase bomb in the Lincoln Tunnel, and the military were the first to arrive, they would not be authorized to either detain or shoot at the terrorist because the military lacks the proper police powers under such circumstances.
I say do whatever it takes to track and kill Arab terrorists.
# 3 by 1bigdictator
Why stop at Arab terrorists, 1bigdictator?
We have domestic “terrorists,” people who actually believe that they have the right to believe as they please, like that madman Koresh, or that criminal Randy Weaver.
Let's not forget those whacko organizations who call themselves "Patriots," and "Militias," and people who support the 2nd Amendment, and people who have the audacity to quote relevent passages of the Constitution to government officials.
Senator Biden just wants the legal power to use the military against citizens, 1bigdictator. In practice, they don’t actually wait for Congressional permission. The one who decides whether to use the military or not is our President, who usurps powers delegated to Congress, in violation of the provisions of the Constitution.
The use of military personnel in civilian matters is illegal under the Constitution. I’ve been saying so for years.
Senator Biden’s proposal shows that our Congressmen knew that the use of the military was un-Constitutional, as well.
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