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Biden backs letting soldiers arrest civilians
The Washington Times ^ | July 22, 2002 | Joyce Howard Price

Posted on 07/22/2002 6:37:23 AM PDT by robowombat

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To: carenot
To: exodus If Senator Biden gets his way, the military will have a power that they have never enjoyed before; the power of enforcing civilian laws inside the borders of the United States.
Wrong, they have already done that.
As far as we know they still do.
# 79 by carenot

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You’re right, carenot.
Almost every day, they use the power of the military against citizens.

The thing Senator Biden wants to do is to make that military power legal.
Not Constitutional by any means, but a law would make it legal.

81 posted on 07/22/2002 1:09:16 PM PDT by exodus
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To: robowombat
I lurk on DU at times to see what the other side says. The libs who post there are just as afraid of this as conservatives. I don't get it. Why do people here hate the idea (including me), and the libs at DU hate the idea, yet the pols still keep pushing for it.

BTW, I never liked Ridge. He seems like a dumb, empty suit.
82 posted on 07/22/2002 1:18:57 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: freedomcrusader
We who are about to die, salute you!
83 posted on 07/22/2002 1:20:09 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: LisaFab
They would be repelling an open, alien attack on our soil which is the military's number one purpose.

Bears repeating.

84 posted on 07/22/2002 1:24:50 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: Travis McGee
They have to be a resident alien and still have to complete the paperwork and test. They just get front of the line privileges.
85 posted on 07/22/2002 5:12:25 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
Sure, but most of congress is gung ho to legalize all the legals, which will make them eligible.
86 posted on 07/22/2002 5:27:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: robowombat
Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.,... said the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prevents the military from exercising police powers in this country, should be re-examined and "has to be amended."

What needs to be "re-examined" is our definition of foreign terrorism as a crime. It is not. It is an act of war. It is thus already the responsibility of the military to deal with foreign terrorists. They do not need police powers to do this. The Posse Comitatus Act does not need to be changed.

Civilian law enforcement has no business fighting foreign terrorism. This new "Department of Homeland Security" is unnecessary. The job that they are tasked with is already a DOD function. The idea that we should track down foreign terrorists and put them on trial is ludicrous. They should be attacked and destroyed, just as any other hostile force would be during time of war. Gathering evidence to make a case in court runs counter to that and places the public at risk.

Quite simply, foreigners here suspected of terrorism should be fair game for the military. We need to recognize that these individuals do not have criminal rights under the Constitution as "home-grown" terrorists would. (And it is already the responsibility of domestic law enforcement to catch and try domestic terrorists; another function the "Homeland Security" department is not needed for.) They have no right to a fair trial, nor to freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, nor to due process. Foreign terrorists should be treated as invaders and dealt with in the same manner that regular troops invading our soil would be. Were China to start landing troops on Malibu Beach, would we start swearing out arrest warrants!? Of course not. We'd call in air strikes, not lawyers. Why are terrorists treated differently?

Since foreign terrorism isn't a law enforcement problem, the Posse Comitatus Act is irrelevant to the discussion.

87 posted on 07/22/2002 5:32:13 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Travis McGee
If a Resident Alien, regardless of how he obtained that status, wishes to join our Military and defend the United States, I see no reason not to reward them with a fast track to citizenship.
88 posted on 07/22/2002 6:10:03 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
If ten million ILLEGALS become instant residents due to congressional action, they will be terrible "home front soldiers", having little English and NO knowledge of our history, Bill of Rights, etc.

For these guys gun confiscation raids will just be a night's work.

89 posted on 07/22/2002 6:13:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
If ten million ILLEGALS become instant residents due to congressional action, they will be terrible "home front soldiers", having little English and NO knowledge of our history, Bill of Rights, etc.

How many would want to enlist? How many could pass the ASVAB and other screening? I'm opposed to any amnesty, but the Presidents action, of putting Resident Aliens on the fast track to US citizenship, if they are in the military, is OK with me.

90 posted on 07/22/2002 6:22:42 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: arm958
Nice to know you care about southerners living in a police state, the klan was started as a vigilante group against "Yankees" Union Soldiers and others terrorizing southerners.
91 posted on 07/22/2002 8:16:57 PM PDT by bok
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To: exodus
Thanks for the ping, exodus! The rulers of our one-party system are taking us rapidly into a full-blown police state! It's happening right before our very eyes. Bet the Bush-bots can't see it, though!
92 posted on 07/22/2002 9:09:37 PM PDT by BillofRights
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To: cynicom
We shall see how asleep the American sheep are.

,,, isn't this what the Chinese soldiers can do Cyni?

93 posted on 07/22/2002 9:13:18 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: freedomcrusader
"Pretty soon, we'll have soldiers swearing allegiance to Caesar instead of the Constitution."

We do. It's called the Secret Service.

This nut Biden is a danger to himself and America.

Elected by the people. They better to fix their mistake in Delaware. Put this scumbag on notice. Living high on the hog at public expense is over. Time to get a real job, dirtbag. Pay taxes like the rest of America. We need to put this bum where he can't and won't mess with our national fundamentals. Guam comes to mind.

94 posted on 07/23/2002 6:34:25 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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