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FATHER TELLS OF TRAGEDY (Daughter Killed by Husband at Fort Bragg)
The Canton Repository (Ohio) ^
| Tuesday, July 30, 2002
| By ED BALINT Repository staff writer
Posted on 07/30/2002 4:05:43 AM PDT by ResistorSister
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Andrea Zeigler Floyd was an Army vet, a triathlon athlete, had been a surrogate mother, and was a mother of three children.
To: ResistorSister
A surrogate mother? Babyselling is shocking to me. V's wife.
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posted on
07/30/2002 4:11:19 AM PDT
by
ventana
To: ventana
Who said she sold the baby?
She carried the baby for another couple.
To: ResistorSister
Oh, she didn't donate the egg? Where does it qualify that? If it's the husband and wife's sperm and egg doesn't the invitro take place between them? I thought surrogacy had to involve what a third party could contribute, besides a womb.
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07/30/2002 4:24:01 AM PDT
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ventana
To: ResistorSister
If I'm correct, Sgt. Floyd was in Delta. Those guys gi through rigorous psycological screening. You can be assured that the Special Forces command is looking at this very carefully...
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posted on
07/30/2002 4:26:58 AM PDT
by
ken5050
To: ventana
The woman is dead..take your rant somewhere else.
To: ken5050
I hope so. I grew-up in a military home...it is not easy for the regular guys to just come home and be part of the family, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be for a Special Forces guy.
To: ResistorSister
A comment is not a rant.
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posted on
07/30/2002 4:37:08 AM PDT
by
ventana
To: ResistorSister
"...and Im sure she tried everything she could to make that marriage work" This is a quote from Andrea's father in the article.
Maybe and maybe not. Marriage is a tough row to hoe even when the husband isn't frequently absent. Some wives have a low tolerance for absences. Some grin and bear it. I think a lot of career navy wives actually resent it when hubby returns because they have been running the whole show without assistance. Her willingness to be a surrogate mother (the article doesn't say when) is outside of my experience. I'm sure it introduced a dynamic into the marriage but I can't explain the effects of that particular dynamic.
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posted on
07/30/2002 4:39:12 AM PDT
by
Movemout
To: ken5050
Delta Force seemed to have no problem shooting up Christian women and children at Waco so frankly, it does not surprise me that a few loose cannon slipped through the screening process.
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posted on
07/30/2002 4:39:55 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
To: Movemout; ResistorSister
Interesting points....the comments about Navy wives are well documented. It's often the biggest complaint they have when their husbands return. And she sound like a strong, confident, independent woman.
Do we have details as to just how long the soldiers had been back home before the murders were committed? Also, from what I recall of reading in the original articles, in every case the children were NOT in the house...they were with relatives. Did this occur to allow the couples some time alone, or wass it planned by the soldiers so the kids wouldn't be at the scene...??
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posted on
07/30/2002 4:45:13 AM PDT
by
ken5050
To: Movemout
Speaking of introducing a dynamic into the marriage.
My husband thought that the expensive bicycle Andrea used in triathlons could have introduced a negative dynamic into the marriage.
Arguements? Sure; but not murder.
To: ken5050
The kids were left in Alliance, Ohio with Andrea's mother about three weeks ago.
Her husband, Brandon, came home in January (at least that is what I remember reading in another article.)
To: ken5050
Oh, I don't think this can be blamed on either duty in Afghanistan nor duty in the Special Forces. RE:
The husbands are suspected in all four cases, which includes another murder-suicide, investigators said.
Not one (unmarried) guy had a problem, Zeigler said. Theyre all married men. Something has to be connected there it cant just be the stress of the war.
Sounds like a marriage problem. If divorce and domestic abuse is common in the US, why should the military be any different? Compare this to the thousands who come home from war and lead normal, loving married life. Even many of them experience the tradegy of infidelity and divorce, and do not resort to killing their spouse. So, is this an anectodal problem, or are there statistics to show this is a greater problem for returning married GI's?
To: ResistorSister
"Arguements? Sure; but not murder. "Your husband may have a point. Those lightweight bikes can get pretty expensive. Lots of couples, particularly young couples, argue about money. Throw in having somebody else's baby and you might have a humdinger of an argument.
Anyway arguments lead to bad communication which can lead to bitterness, separation, and even murder.
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07/30/2002 5:06:47 AM PDT
by
Movemout
To: ken5050
Lets face a little obvious reality here: why only the married guys? Because the bachelors don't have wives who shack up with other guys. If you think this is not most likely the case then you live in a little fluff pseudo reality.
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07/30/2002 5:17:28 AM PDT
by
Stavka2
To: ResistorSister
"North Carolina law requires a one-year separation before a divorce".
Although I know the reason for this law, it's not a good one. After the one-year separation, a divorce can take another year or even longer. This limbo time is a period of great danger for individuals with unstable spouses. Better to cut the cord as quickly as possible.
Since the father stated that she was "in the process of getting a separation", it sounds to me like this may have prompted the murder. Sort of a "if I can't have her, no one will" sort of thing.
Leni
To: ResistorSister
Not one (unmarried) guy had a problem, Zeigler said. Theyre all married men. Something has to be connected there it cant just be the stress of the war. OK. This is pure speculation, not to mention terribly insensitive, but...single guys don't have to worry about cheating wives. Married guys do--sometimes its all in their own head, but they still worry. I know from very personal experience that having a wife cheat (or worse, get pregnant) can drive guys to suicide and/or murder.
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posted on
07/30/2002 5:22:06 AM PDT
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TankerKC
To: TankerKC
This is pure speculation, not to mention terribly insensitive, but...single guys don't have to worry about cheating wives. Married guys do--sometimes its all in their own head, but they still worry.I suspect you're on to something here. This guy's been home SINCE JANUARY! Did he discover some evidence, or did she slip and call him by someone else's name?
No single guys killing girlfriends, are there?
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posted on
07/30/2002 5:30:49 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: TankerKC
I don't know if she was cheating on her husband...but my husband (ex Marine) told me not to get into this arguement because it is true that many men have come home from service and found their wives were seeing another/other men.
But I will say this...not all women cheat on their military husbands...sometimes marriages just don't work.
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