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Oregon Coastal air helps slow advance of western flank of Biscuit Fire, giving residents hope
Oregon Live/ AP ^ | 8/14/02 3:44 AM | Jeff Barnard

Posted on 08/14/2002 8:51:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Coastal air helps slow advance of western flank of Biscuit Fire, giving residents hope

By JEFF BARNARD, The Associated Press, 8/14/02 3:44 AM

BROOKINGS, Ore. -- Hot weather made life miserable for firefighters on the eastern flanks of the Biscuit fire, but moist marine air on the western side helped a small outback subdivision under an evacuation advisory.

"I don't think it will get here," Incident Commander Kim Martin said Tuesday while briefing a dozen residents of the Wilderness Retreat subdivision, located about 12 miles east of Brookings on the Chetco River. They stood in the shade of some fir trees and looked at a map of the fire burning on about 380,000 acres of the Siskiyou National Forest and adjacent lands in southwestern Oregon and northern California.

"I believe him," said Mark Steele, a highway flagger and woodcutter who has moved most of his furniture and other belongings out of his home. "Hopefully, the lines will hold."

The fire has been burning for a month since a lighting strike ignited it deep in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness. With 6,300 people assembled from around the country, as well as Canada, New Zealand and Australia, the fire has cost $52,450,000 to fight so far.

The fire was 26 percent contained, with the most secure lines on the eastern and southern flanks. The threat to the 17,000 residents of the Illinois Valley continued to diminish, but an evacuation notice remained in effect warning people to be ready to leave.

Firefighters suffered through temperatures over 100 degrees on the eastern and northern flanks of the fire, where the fire moved up Indigo Creek closer to Bear Camp Road, the primary shuttle route for whitewater rafters on the wild and scenic section of the Rogue River.

"The heat makes it hard for the firefighters to work," said fire spokesman Tom Valluzzi. "They've got to carry twice as much water and take twice as many breaks. It's miserable."

On the northwestern flank, the fire slopped over containment lines and burned down the historical Snow Camp Mountain Lookout. Martin said a falling ember got inside the fireproof aluminum-coated fabric wrapped around the one-room structure to protect it.

"An era has passed," said fire spokeswoman Susan Mathison. "This is a great loss to the Siskiyou National Forest."

The mountaintop overlooking the Pistol River and the Kalmiopsis Wilderness was first used to spot fires in 1924, and a lookout stationed there during World War II witnessed a Japanese airplane that had been launched from a submarine drop a bomb in a failed attempt to ignite a forest fire. The most recent structure was built in 1959, and retired from service in 1972. It has been rented out to the public since 1990 and was the subject of a book.

On the northern edge of the fire, the Rogue River Canyon hamlet of Agness remained on evacuation alert, but the fire was still several miles away, Mathison said.

Now that firefighters are ready to begin burning out the network of logging roads, bulldozer lines and ridgetops standing in the way of the fire's western edge, the marine air has made ignition more difficult, just as similar conditions did last week on the eastern flank, Martin said. Hotshot crews setting the burnout fires have turned from working at night to working in daylight, when the fires will ignite more easily.

"We don't have this line totally secure yet," Martin said. "We haven't done any burnout."

Elsewhere, the Tiller complex of fires east of Roseburg, burning over 44,000 acres, remained a big concern to firefighters. It was about 40 percent contained.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: biscuitfire; christines; greenjihadists; kalmiopsisburning; oregonisburning; ruralcleansing
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This fire is like a left wing zealot. It has at least two distinct crazy sides. The West Side was cool yesterday due to the cool coastal air.

The Eastern Side was hotter than Bill Clintoon going after an intern.

When it gets hot inland on the west coast, that sucks up the cooler and often foggy air from the coast and pulls it inland for a few miles. Hopefully this will continue for a day or two to allow the containment lines on the Western Side to be connected and put in where needed.

1 posted on 08/14/2002 8:51:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Granof8; AuntB; wanderin; Archie Bunker on steroids; blackie; dixiechick2000; Jack Black; EBUCK
Here is today's thread with a mixed situation on the former Kalmiopsis Blaze.

Everyone stay safe and don't get too hot with the high temps that are forecasted for today.

Please keep us posted with the great updates that you have added to these threads re these Green Jihadist Rural Cleansing Fires.
2 posted on 08/14/2002 8:58:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: madfly; farmfriend; WaterDragon; backhoe; sauropod; countrydummy
Good morning!

Here is the latest on the massive Green Jihadist Rural Cleansing fire from their former wilderness, the Kalmiopsis Wilderness.

Appreciate your pings and help with getting the word out.

You people are the Paul Revere's on FR re telling us that The Green Coats Are Coming, The Green Coats Are Coming!

Thanks for your great pinging and interest in this terrible situation.
3 posted on 08/14/2002 9:02:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: BOBTHENAILER; AAABEST; CedarDave; Tailgunner Joe
Good morning!

This is the latest on this Green Jihadist Rural Cleansing Fire in SW Oregon.

Thanks for your concern and help in getting the word out about this Green Jihadists's Agenda Disaster.
4 posted on 08/14/2002 9:05:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: All
Thanks to the Watermelon Green Jihadists and their no road agendas this is the cost up to yesterday on the fire in and around their former Kalmiopsis Wilderness Area:

The fire has been burning for a month since a lighting strike ignited it deep in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness. With 6,300 people assembled from around the country, as well as Canada, New Zealand and Australia, the fire has cost $52,450,000 to fight so far.

To bad that Andy Kerr, the Club Sierra Clymers of Oregon, the ONRC Clymers of Oregon and every Green Rat Oregon Politician like Kitz and Katz don't have to pay for this Green Financial Disaster!

Just another example of how dangerous the Green Jihadists Watermelons are to our society.

We can no longer afford to allow these Green Jihadists Watermelons to do this to America and us! Time to turn out the lights in their offices and send them home or to jail with zero of the illegal power they now have.

5 posted on 08/14/2002 9:11:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Good Morning!

EBUCK

6 posted on 08/14/2002 9:17:24 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Grampa Dave; AuntB
Grizzly peak fire is off and running between Ashland and Medford. Smoke is settling in pretty thick again from this fire. Aunt B - is this one close?
7 posted on 08/14/2002 9:25:20 AM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
This new fire may be causing some of the smoke for you and Aunt B, and this is how it got started:

Power Line Sparks Wildfire Outside Medford
08/14/2002, Associated Press


A fire is burning southeast of Medford after a power line came into contact with a tree limb and arced, causing sparks that started the blaze.


Fire officials say the fire has burned about 500 acres near Grizzly Peak and East Antelope Road. Air tankers and helicopters dumped retardant and water on the fire. More than 100 firefighters, along with bulldozers, engines and water tenders are on the fire.


The fire continued to burn out of control over night.

8 posted on 08/14/2002 9:27:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
390,000 acres.

Snow Camp Lookout burned from inside out (spark got inside).

Cooler air along coast. Morning clouds with afternoon clearing (if you can see the sky for the smoke).



9 posted on 08/14/2002 9:36:08 AM PDT by Granof8
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To: Granof8; All
Mopping up and moving out

Published: August 14, 2002, Crescent City Daily Triplicate

By Kent Gray, Triplicate staff writer

The California portion of the Biscuit Fire grew only slightly yesterday near Gasquet and officials said full containment is expected soon.

But the fight is hardly over. The giant blaze continues to rage uncomfortably close to communities in Southern Oregon on the western edge of the fire and power lines supplying all of Del Norte County's electricity remain very close to the fire. So far, the lines appear to be safe and no outages are expected.

"It's still three-quarters to a-half mile away from the (transmission) lines," said Monte Mendenhall, spokesperson for PacifiCorp. "... They dug a pretty good fireline between the fire and the facilities at the O'Brien stateline area." The weather system that's been in place for the past week has been pushing the fire away from the lines, officials said.

Yesterday's estimate put the total fire at 378,865 acres with 26-percent containment. So far the cost of fighting the blaze has been $52.5 million.

The Forest Service reported the destruction of Snow Camp Lookout and a communications repeater station late Monday afternoon as the fire continued its assault in Curry County.

The Curry County Sheriff's Office continued pre-evacuation alerts for the communities of Agness, Illahe, Oak Flats and the Wilderness Retreat areas north of Brookings and the Gardner Ranch.

In Del Norte County, however, firefighting was definitely winding down.

"The (California portion of the) fire is currently 90 percent contained with full containment expected by 6 a.m. Thursday," said Terry Knupp, fire information officer with the U.S. Forest Service. "Fire activity along the perimeter is low. The west side of the fire is clear. The south side has a little low-intensity heat, but no flames. The east side looks good as well."

Accompanying the good news in California, Wally Bennett's Northern Rockies Incident Management Team, the group that orchestrated the bulk of the offensive against Del Norte fires last week, packed their bags yesterday to return home.

"This is a normal transition as Wally Bennett's team has timed out in the number of consecutive days it can work," Knupp said. "Wally and the team extend their sincere thanks to the community and Six Rivers National Forest for all the support and donations. We could not have been successful without the efforts of everyone."

Aside from "isolated smokes" appearing in the Shelley Fire area, which closed a section of Highway 199 west of Patrick Creek last week, Knupp said the fire was not threatening to re-emerge.

Once the immediate emergency has passed, the next phase will be rehabilitating the scorched forestland.

"Specialists assigned to the Biscuit Fire Zone II are currently assessing the impacts that fire suppression had in the local ecosystem," said Knupp. "... This is a concentrated effort to protect areas and prevent long-term soil erosion from occurring on areas of steep slope. In general, the needs are to clean up trash, install water bars on hand lines and lop or scatter vegetation on bare soils."

10 posted on 08/14/2002 10:09:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
WATERMELON BA$TARDS BUMP!!!!

bttt

EBUCK

11 posted on 08/14/2002 10:34:51 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK; All
Great! Bump!

I will be off the computer for most of the day.

Take care and those living in Oregon near and even miles away from the Former Kalmiopsis Wilderness Fire, please keep us posted on what is happening.
12 posted on 08/14/2002 10:59:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Which communications repeater station?
13 posted on 08/14/2002 11:00:06 AM PDT by Granof8
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To: Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; Stand Watch Listen; freefly; expose; Fish out of Water; ...
So sad.
Biscuit Fire Burnthrough, from www.biscuitfire.com


14 posted on 08/14/2002 11:29:16 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
BTTT!!!!!!!
15 posted on 08/14/2002 11:36:15 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Grampa Dave
Oregon News

Heat records fall in western Oregon

The Associated Press

8/14/02 12:55 AM

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Records were accumulating faster than beads of sweat Tuesday as at least 10 Oregon cities had afternoon temperatures of more than 100 degrees.

More than a dozen cities in the western part of the state set records, including Portland, which declared an "orange" air pollution warning because of high ozone levels.

The air quality warnings mean that state officials expect high temperatures and low-level winds, which mix with auto exhaust and other pollutants to create high levels of smog.

In Medford, smoke from forest fires mixed with the state's worst heat -- 108 degrees -- to create breathing woes.

"To add insult to injury, we're probably looking at some high ozone numbers here as well," said John Becker, an Oregon Department of Environmental Quality air quality expert in Medford. "Right now, the best advice is, if you've got smoke around you, try to take it easy."

Particle pollution, such as that from fires or diesel engines, is even more dangerous to health than ozone pollution, said Michael Heumann, an environmental epidemiologist for the Oregon Public Health Service. That's because particles carry chemicals on their surface and lodge in the lungs, he said, instead of being breathed out like other pollutants.

While wildfire smoke continued to cause problems in a few cities, such as Brookings, wind helped keep Klamath Falls, Eugene and other cities relatively free of smoke or ozone pollution.

Roseburg reached 107 degrees, the second hottest spot in the state, while Corvallis and Troutdale both hit 106, beating records that have stood since the drought-plagued summer of 1977.

Coastal cities were also hit hard by the heat wave. Astoria logged a 95-degree day, 9 degrees higher than the previous record. Tillamook also hit 95, beating its high by 11 degrees. Newport sweltered in 99-degree heat, blasting past its old record of 83 degrees, set Aug. 13, 1942.

But Florence was the hottest coastal spot, hitting 104 degrees. To the east, Eugene recorded the same temperature, and Salem also hit 104, edging out a 103-degree record for Aug. 13 that the capital set in 1920. Gorge winds didn't save The Dalles, which hit 102.

In Portland, the official high temperature as measured at Portland International Airport was 102 degrees, topping a 96-degree record set in 1992.

16 posted on 08/14/2002 11:36:27 AM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Grampa Dave
Here's a map from biscuitfire.com


17 posted on 08/14/2002 11:41:15 AM PDT by madfly
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To: EBUCK
I love that slogan! LOL!
18 posted on 08/14/2002 11:42:45 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Grampa Dave
378,000 acres is 591 square miles of destroyed forests and thousands of dead deer and elk. The Sierra Club will be filing injunctions soon to stop any type of reforestation and reclamation.

Pray for GW and the Firefighters

19 posted on 08/14/2002 11:46:40 AM PDT by bray
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To: headsonpikes
You should, IIRC it was yours to begin with!

EBUCK

20 posted on 08/14/2002 11:47:02 AM PDT by EBUCK
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