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IRAQ: EGYPT WILL NOT LET US WARSHIPS PASS THROUGH SUEZ CANAL
Qatar News Agency | 8/19/02

Posted on 08/19/2002 11:17:40 AM PDT by kattracks

AMMAN, Aug. 17, 2002 (QNA via COMTEX) -- Dr. Oasma Al Baz, political advisor to the Egyptian president, said Egypt will not allow passage through the Suez Canal of US ships headed to strike Iraq.

In statements published here Saturday he added Egypt rejects any military operation against Iraq, its territorial unity, independence and safety of Iraqi people, adding any military attack on Iraq represents a vary dangerous step endangering the security of the region.

Dr. Al Baz said the question of UN weapons inspectors is an issue which concerns the UN and the Security Council and not Washington and the US has no right to take any military action against Iraq nor has the right to interfere in the internal affairs of another country and impose a set-up of new leadership on its people.

Copyright (C) 2002 QNA. All Rights Reserved.



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To: denydenydeny
Can we reject the tens of millions we give to Egypt every year?

I think I read that it’s more like 2 Billion.

Fine, if they don’t want us to use the Suez Canal, we can just sail right up the Nile and cut across the flooded plains after we rocket the Asswan High Dam.

Muslims are our friends…

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

21 posted on 08/19/2002 11:29:54 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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To: kattracks
All is lost. How can we ever overcome the military might of Egypt?

BTW, tell the guards at your water purification plants and pumping stations to brew their coffee strong, Farook.....

22 posted on 08/19/2002 11:30:00 AM PDT by tracer
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To: kattracks; Dark Wing
Assuming this is Mubarak's position, as opposed to one yo-yo trying to sound important (we have lots of those too, especially in the State Department), note the following phrase:

"... of US ships headed to strike Iraq ..."

Not all ships, just those "headed to strike Iraq".

Two more points. First, I don't think any of our carriers can fit in the Suez Canal, so they transit elsewhere along with most of their supporting vessels.

Second, the non-combat support ships, cargo vessels and tankers are what really need Canal transit and they aren't "strike" ships by definition.

So this could easily be posturing for domestic political effect. We'll find out.

23 posted on 08/19/2002 11:30:06 AM PDT by Thud
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To: kattracks
Great, sounds like we just saved a few billion $ a year.

Time for Bush to send a reminder:
FU - strong letter to follow!.

This could be a precursor to what the chi-coms plan to do with the Panama Canal sometime when it's in their interests.

24 posted on 08/19/2002 11:30:13 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: 1Old Pro
W don't need no stinkin Suez Canal.

A couple well placed JDAMs will make the canal inoperable for a year.

25 posted on 08/19/2002 11:30:44 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Owl_Eagle
Dang it, OE. You really are one to Think Big. I like your plan better than mine.....
26 posted on 08/19/2002 11:31:53 AM PDT by tracer
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To: rhombus
How about the Sea of Suez?
I'll add that to the map this evening.


27 posted on 08/19/2002 11:32:02 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: kattracks
Suez Canal General Information:

The idea of a canal linking the Mediterranean to the Red Sea dates back to ancient times. Unlike the modern Canal, earlier ones linked the Red Sea to the Nile, therefore forcing the ships to sail along the River on their journey from Europe to India. It has been suggested that the first Canal was dug during the reign of Tuthmosis III, although more solid evidence credits the Pharaoh Necho (Sixth Century BC) for the attempt. During the Persian invasion of Egypt, King Darius I ordered the Canal completed. The Red Sea Canal, consisted of two parts: the first linking the Gulf of Suez to the Great Bitter Lake, and the second connecting the Lake to one of the Nile branches in the Delta. The canal remained in good condition during the Ptolemaic era, but fell into disrepair afterwards. It was re-dug during the rule of the Roman Emperor Trajan, and later the Arab ruler Amr Ibn-Al-Aas. Over the years, it fell again into disrepair, and was completely abandoned upon the discovery of the trade route around Africa.

It was Napoleon's engineers who, around 1800 AD, revived the idea of a shorter trade route to India via a Suez Canal. However, the calculation carried out by the French engineers showed a difference in level of 10 meters between both seas. If constructed under such circumstances, a large land area would be flooded. Later, the calculations showed to be wrong, and the final attempt to dig the Canal was undertaken by former French Consul in Cairo and famous Canal digger Ferdinand de Lesseps. He was granted a "firman" or decree by the khedive Said of Egypt to run the Canal for 99 years after completion.

In 1859, Egyptian workers started working on the construction of the Canal in conditions described by historians as slave labor, and the project was completed around 1867. On November 17, 1869, the Canal was officially inaugurated by Khedive Ismail in an extravagant and lavish ceremony. French, British, Russian, and other Royalty were invited for the inauguration which coincided with the re-planning of Cairo. A highway was constructed linking Cairo to the new city of Ismailia, an Opera House was built, and Verdi was commissioned to compose his famous opera, "Aida" for the opening ceremony. Ironically, Verdi did not complete the work in time and "Aida" premiered at the Cairo Opera a year later.

The Suez Canal emerged on the political scene in 1956, during the Suez crisis. It was in July of that years the Egyptian president Nasser, at age 38, announced the nationalization of the Canal at Mansheya Square in Alexandria in front of a cheering crowd. His decision was in response to the British, French, and American refusal for a loan aimed at building the Aswan High Dam. The revenue from the Canal, he argued, would help finance the High Dam project. The announcement triggered a swift reaction by Great Britain, France, and Israel, who all invaded Egypt less than two months later. Their action would be condemned by the International community, and Nasser would eventually claim victorious.

In 1967, the Canal was closed at the wake of the Six-Day War, when Israel occupied the Sinai Peninsula, causing the Canal to act as a buffer zone between the fighting forces. The Egyptians reclaimed the Canal upon the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, and the re-opening ceremony took place in 1975. Since then, the Canal, which stretches 167 kms across the Egyptian desert, has been widened twice. Today, approximately 50 ships cross the canal daily, and, with the threat of war long gone, the cities and beaches along the Bitter Lakes and the Canal serve as a summer resort for tourists.

Copied from: http://ce.eng.usf.edu/pharos/wonders/Modern/suezcanal.html

28 posted on 08/19/2002 11:32:27 AM PDT by all4one
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To: hoosierboy
bump
29 posted on 08/19/2002 11:32:32 AM PDT by timestax
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To: kattracks
"Egypt, can you and Saudi Arabia scoot in a little closer to Iraq? We'd like to get you all in the same shot."


Click!



30 posted on 08/19/2002 11:32:44 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: kattracks
The question that Egypt needs to answer is, do they think attempting to close the Suez Canal is worth the 2 billion dollars they get in US aid annually?
31 posted on 08/19/2002 11:33:20 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: denydenydeny
Egypt gets 2 billion per year foreign aid from us. During Gulf War #1 we cancelled 6 billion dollar in loans they owed us.

This was the bribe to get their participation
32 posted on 08/19/2002 11:33:53 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: kattracks
Fine then, I just hope they understand "You are either with US or with the terrorists."
33 posted on 08/19/2002 11:34:03 AM PDT by Libertina
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To: kattracks
Stop the billions to Egypt like yesterday! Not one dime to a bunch of freaking lunatics! The time for diplomacy is now over.
34 posted on 08/19/2002 11:34:05 AM PDT by eleni121
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To: kattracks; phasma proeliator
Reckon it's going to piss them off when they see the cruise missles flying over the suez canal, along with all the planes being launched from there.
36 posted on 08/19/2002 11:36:38 AM PDT by da_toolman
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To: Thud
Aircraft carriers do go through there.
37 posted on 08/19/2002 11:36:39 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Thud

USS Teddy Roosevelt, traversing the Suez Canal.

38 posted on 08/19/2002 11:37:11 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: kattracks
Egypt gets $2 billion/yr courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer. If we say jump, those son's of camels better ask, "how high?"
39 posted on 08/19/2002 11:37:20 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ASA Vet
How about the Sea of Suez?

That, sir, is a beautiful thing! I just wish Chad and the Sudan weren’t on there…

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

40 posted on 08/19/2002 11:37:43 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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