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Actor Grammer Supports Bush
AP via NYTimes.com ^ | 8/24/02

Posted on 08/24/2002 2:38:04 PM PDT by GeneD

Filed at 5:12 p.m. ET

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Actor Kelsey Grammer, a rare Republican supporter among Hollywood's liberal elite, was in the audience Saturday as President Bush raised money for would-be GOP governor Bill Simon.

In an interview, the ``Frasier'' star called himself a ``big fan'' of the president, saying, ``I think he makes a lot of sense and he's had some clarity when it was very important.''

``The thing I most respond to in the political arena is people that actually don't play politics, and I think President Bush comes from a place that is sincere,'' Grammer said.

The actor was one of about 200 guests who paid $2,500 each to breakfast at the ritzy Regency Club in Westwood, the final of three fund-raising stops Bush was making in California to promote Simon.

While supporting the president, Grammer was less sure about Simon. ``I don't know Bill Simon very well,'' he said.

Grammer described himself as ``lukewarm'' on Simon's opponent, Democratic Gov. Gray Davis -- a view shared by half of California, according to polls.

Politically, Grammer called himself ``kind of a liberal,'' a description he agreed could apply to the snooty Seattle shrink he plays on NBC.

``But I've always had a very conservative respect for the individual,'' Grammer added.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: billsimon; georgewbush; graydavis; kelseygrammer

1 posted on 08/24/2002 2:38:04 PM PDT by GeneD
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To: GeneD
Gee, a pleasant surprise.
2 posted on 08/24/2002 2:46:54 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: GeneD
``kind of a liberal,''

A mushy, non-commital answer, as conservative as it gets for anyone in hollywood seeking to stay employed.

3 posted on 08/24/2002 2:51:33 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: GeneD
http://www.kelseylive.com/index_main1.html

Kelsey owns a basenji, so he can't be all bad. ;-)
4 posted on 08/24/2002 3:01:10 PM PDT by 07055
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To: GeneD
Sorry, Kelsey. Any kind of "Liberal" gets a condemnation. "Liberals" are the most dangerous people in the world today. They are the enablers of America's enemies. They will bring the United States to its knees and destroy it if they have their way. Anyone who can't understand that is part of the problem.
5 posted on 08/24/2002 3:01:55 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Savage Beast
Unfortunately you are correct. It's very simple. Bush isn't up for re-election this year and Simon is in a fight against the Media elite. If Grammer was for Simon, then I could applaud his thinking.
I don't think Republican need reassurances from celebrities that their political decisions are correct.
6 posted on 08/24/2002 3:09:16 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: GeneD
Interesting! I always suspected he was one of those closet conservatives since the rumor is that he's "stuck up." I figured the elitists dislike him for his political views.
7 posted on 08/24/2002 3:19:05 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: GeneD
A pleasant surprise. We all know what usually spews from the Hollywood type pie hole's.

All that time spent with Cliff and Norm at Cheers must have did it.

LVM

8 posted on 08/24/2002 3:37:10 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: GeneD
I have to assume Grammer is sincere as there is certainly no social or professional benefit in his supporting President Bush. I believe Kelsey Grammer likes and admires George W. Bush, just as he stated. That he calls himself a liberal means little as he is probably closer to being apolitical and simply says what he assumes he is expected to say in Hollywood.

He obviously isn't really involved in California politics as he didn't seem to know much about Simon, however, appearing at a Republican fundraiser was brave for an actor currently working in Hollywood. Grammer must feel secure in his career and financial status.

I admire Kelsey Grammer for showing up and speaking out for Bush, if not for the actual candidate, Simon. It doesn't mean much in the larger scheme of things but any well-known Hollywood actor endorsing the President is fine with me.

9 posted on 08/24/2002 3:38:09 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Savage Beast
Hey! At least he's no longer driving his Viper upside down on Mulholland Drive!
10 posted on 08/24/2002 3:41:33 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: GeneD
All together now:

Who cares?

11 posted on 08/24/2002 3:42:13 PM PDT by Glenn
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To: TADSLOS
Bingo.
12 posted on 08/24/2002 3:44:08 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: TADSLOS
as conservative as it gets for anyone in hollywood seeking to stay employed

Agreed.

13 posted on 08/24/2002 3:52:35 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: GeneD
Kelsey Grammer was also at President Bush's inauguration. He is a big supporter.
14 posted on 08/24/2002 4:10:38 PM PDT by Wait4Truth
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To: Wait4Truth
And he hosted An American Celebration At Ford's Theater-- which is customarily hosted by a supporter of the President.
15 posted on 08/24/2002 4:30:26 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: Wait4Truth
Wasn't the creator of Fraiser on the first plane that hit the WTC?
16 posted on 08/24/2002 4:34:02 PM PDT by Hazzardgate
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To: TADSLOS
Not necessarily. He sounds like most of the Libertines that run rampant on this site.
17 posted on 08/24/2002 4:39:49 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Hazzardgate
I believe it was the producer of Frasier who was on the WTC plane.
18 posted on 08/24/2002 6:05:19 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Savage Beast
As someone else noted, the man may want to stay employed, and in Hollywood, that means claiming to be a liberal. "a kind of liberal..."? Maybe it's his code - he means a classical liberal.

In fact, now that you mention it, I'm a classical liberal. That's another reason I hate modern liberals - they stole our label.
19 posted on 08/24/2002 6:45:45 PM PDT by Rensselaer
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To: Rensselaer
Two good points.

Okay. Maybe Kelsey's just trying to keep his job in the talibanesque world of "Liberals".

I'm very liberal too. "Liberalism" has nothing to do with liberalism, meaning free-thinking, open-minded, and freedom-loving.

Good points, Rens.

20 posted on 08/24/2002 7:48:08 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: GeneD
Politically, Grammer called himself ``kind of a liberal,'' a description he agreed could apply to the snooty Seattle shrink he plays on NBC.

I agree with him. But let's spell it out: Frazier Crane is a smug, self-satisfied rich man. He lives in a high-rise, far away from normal people. He only eats at fashionable restaurants, and turns up his nose at any eatery where "the common man" (his working-class father) might go. Frazier is unable to sustain a meaningful, loving relationship and is absurdly unable to understand most ordinary human emotions or motivations.

Yup, sounds like a liberal.

21 posted on 08/24/2002 8:02:25 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: GeneD
The most hilarious of all the funny Frasier episodes IMO was the one wherein Frasier decides to back a leftwing gun control advocate candidate in a local election in opposition to a gun rights candidate for whom his father, a former policeman, had made a TV commercial. The candidate confesses to Frasier just before he is to make his own endorsement commercial that he was once kidnapped by aliens, at which point the line in the commercial "he speaks for the little people" takes on a whole new meaning. Eventually Frasier inadvertantly lets the man's secret out to his entire radio audience, destroying his candidacy; although he gets only ten percent of the vote the man is last seen heading for California where he feels a person with his special background stands a much better chance of being elected to office. Always seemed like a great sendup of unctuous leftwingers to me.......
22 posted on 08/24/2002 9:23:58 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: GeneD
"he's had some clarity when it was very important"

"President Bush comes from a place that is sincere"

This kind of touchy-feely New Age speak makes me squirm. But hey, I guess we shouldn't look a Hollywood Republican in the mouth, so to speak!

23 posted on 08/25/2002 2:20:06 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Shooter 2.5
I don't think Republican need reassurances from celebrities that their political decisions are correct.

True, but irrelevent. Republicans are a fool if they focus on the correctness of their ideas.

Many Americans vote on the basis of their feelings . Many others vote by the brand image that aligning with a party accords them. That is, to many -- even outside Hollywood -- a party label is an accessary, like a brand name that rubs off them, for good or ill. Corporations like Pepsi and MTV understand this.

And to many people, their feelings are that the GOP brand image is one of bigotry, hatred, intolerance, greed, etc. This is true among young people, college campuses, hip yuppies, etc. They vote Dem not because of Dem ideas, but because they wish to identify with the Dem's brand image of tolerance, etc.

Feelings associated with brand images are often set by celebrities. If Britney Spears drinks Pepsi, Pepsi becomes a cool drink that others will want to drink. And if a celeb alligns with the GOP, that creates feelings that the GOP is cool, tolerant, hip. And that translates into votes.

Most voters don't read FR or DU or any of the opinion journals. They wander through life in a mental fog, absorbing vague feelings based on sound bites from MTV, E!, People magazine, etc. And they vote!

24 posted on 08/25/2002 8:42:02 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Glenn
All together now: Who cares?

A whole lot of voters care. See post #24.

25 posted on 08/25/2002 8:47:51 AM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: sheik yerbouty
Hey! At least he's no longer driving his Viper upside down on Mulholland Drive!

This might be the best post on this whole thread. It's beats mine.

26 posted on 08/25/2002 8:50:03 AM PDT by ASDFGHJK
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To: clintonh8r
Politically, Grammer called himself ``kind of a liberal,'' a description he agreed could apply to the snooty Seattle shrink he plays on NBC.

``But I've always had a very conservative respect for the individual,'' Grammer added.

This, my friends, is a MODERATE! A stick you finger in the air, follow the herd, spineless moderate! These folks are the reason we are losing the culture war. This is, IMHO and regretfully, the base of the Republican party in the Northeast and California. They have grown weary of defending their values to a bunch of screaming "in-your-face" liberal elitist bullies who have gained power in private and public institutions. I hope that Mr. Grammer learns from Charlton Heston and gets a backbone.

27 posted on 08/25/2002 9:09:16 AM PDT by Pharmer
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