Hatfill Gives Press Conference

Fox news | 08-25-02 | Steve Hatfill

[at bay]

Just watched the Hatfill press conference. FBI continuing on its theory that this was something that originated from the US and that Atta must have had athlete's foot or something. Hatfill, if innocent, is rightly indignant at his treatment.

[floriduh voter]

I just looked at the commandments on your post again.
Some of the numbers don't jive. They seem to be off by one number. I'm gonna get out my Bible and see what I come up with. I may have to call Charlton Heston - Moses ought to know.

[Cachelot]

Yesterday he stated he had never met her, so your information is incorrect.

Yeah, well.. as I said, I might have gotten the thing garbled :). I'm pretty sure he's innocent, though. Too many things that don't add up.

[ellery]

All republicans here are not conservatives but rather partisans first.

And were probably the same people excoriating the democrat sheeple for following Klintoon like lemmings. Ironic, isn't it? And before I get flamed, no, I am not equating the Bush and Klintoon administrations -- Klintoon and Co. set the standard for government slime. I'm just saying that if our government representatives are wrong, we need to sock it to 'em, regardless of the letter after their name.

[cynicom]

ellery....

Exactly... I am conservative first, for the country first, for the constitution first, all else is secondary.

[First_Salute]

Bump.

[Ken H]

Well, I hate lying, now he has to prove that John Ashcroft lied- that's not gonna be easy.

I don't think that's right.

My understanding is that he only has to prove in civil court that his rights were violated by the government.

That is a very different thing from having to prove that Ashcroft lied.

[CJ Wolf]

It's not Ashcroft behind this! It's the Rogue FBI Special Agent McCoy. He was part of the anthrax investigation when he noticed that Hatfill was actually a Hatfield! While researching, he found evidence that he had a name change in Tazmania. Thinking the worst, McCoy told an unnamed source in the senate that Hatfill then tried to blend into the biowarfare crowd in hopes to pick up some virii to spread to the McCoys and then thought it easier to tie him to the anthrax case rather then bring up new hard to prove charges.

/sarcasm

[floriduh voter]

How about this? Mr. Hatfill has the burden of proof. This is civil but it also sounds like he had to file in Federal Court. There's a backlog in Federal Court because there's a shortage of judges. It could take years.

If Mr. Hatfill is mad at Ashcroft and the FBI, et al, wait until he gets to know the court system and is deposed, has to fill out interrogatories, produce records, get ready for trial. Have a trial and so on. Further, someone can follow him around too. He has no idea. If he hates publicity and wants his privacy why is he inviting Court TV into his life? It could happen and it makes no sense to me.

[Ken H]

Hatfill and his lawyer have no doubt discussed the legal thickets they'll encounter and have decided to proceed.

No matter how good a case you have, it's a long tedious process and you still may not win in court.

If he hates publicity and wants his privacy why is inviting court TV into his life?

My understanding is that the NY Times published information leaked from the government and placed Dr. Hatfill into the limelight.

What is your understanding of who first put this into the public spotlight?

[Ken H]

Where are the other nineteen? Are they going to hold press conferences too?

Good questions.

I'm not as up to speed on this story as others here, but I don't remember anyone else's name being made public.

To all: Have any of the other 19 names been released?

[Alas Babylon!]

But be entirely free to me: there's evidence here that the person who did this with a domestic right-winger. That's not some FBI fantasy. Even from what we know publicly, it so appears.

Well, the whole Anthrax thing started (the first death) in Florida, not far from where Mohammed Atta and his gang was living. A pharmacist nearby said that days before 9/11, Atta and two others (later identified as 9/11 hijackers) came in and wanted a remedy for a "nasty bout of the flu", while Atta had red, raw hands and lower arms, as if he had been using harsh chemicals.

That to me is just too much evidence to ignore. It points more directly to them (add that the Princeton, NJ area was and is a area with many Islamic fundy's of Atta's stripe) and the woman in NY named Ngyuen, points to Islamic terrorists much more than a Western-style date or Tom Daschle and big media types as the targets of right-wingers. Do only right-wingers hate Tom Brokaw or Daschle? I am being as free with you as I can. I think every single bit of evidence that it was Atta and his gang should be investigated until nothing remains ot investigate. Ignoring this leaves us just too bloody vunerable. If it came from Saddam (The Chechs say the Atta visited a top Iraqi intelligence agent in April 2001 in Prague) we need to nail his butt to the wall.

Anyway, any American doing this is NOT a patriot, but a monster, and I wouldn't give a flick for his/her conservative credentials. Really, I just don't think it was. The Atta-Hussien connection is too strong.

[tinacart]

"the FBI will surely have personel that are willing to say he is the maker of the letters"

Uh huh, and don't overlook how after his first press conference, they saturated that area in NJ with his picture, maybe attempting to plant in the minds of witnesses this particular face? I love how they came up with anthrax spores in the postal mail box too, after all the time that had passed, AFTER he gave a press conference the first time. He's playing with fire, and maybe he thinks going public was best, but when someone else has ALL the power, I don't think that could help him. I pray that if he's innocent, they don't frame him - but...

[FreeTheHostages]

I agree with you as to this much: the Florida connection is interesting. My point here is we don't know Hatfill's innocent and people shouldn't be rushing to form a protective ring around him. I'm trying to read more about all this and have been following up on some of the links.

[FreeTheHostages]

Your post is well-reasoned. No, it's not just wingnuts that might go after Daschle. He's a leader and perceived as such abroad, and I doubt the Islamic fundamentalists give a fig for the difference between Republicans and Democrats here in the U.S. Sen. Leahy though: he's a bit of a magnet for criticism from the right and not the head of anything important than, well, what am I say, the Sen. Judiciary Committee is important.

I honestly don't know. We shall see. You make some good points. The way the date is written, 9-11-02, is a US/Western date style. But as a friend of mine pointed out, whoever's writing it is writing it in English and that may not be their first language so they may know to mimic the US rule of putting the month first.

Well, thanks for your thoughts, and in exchange for them, here's my joke:

Arafat goes to the Great Beyond to meet his maker. And when he gets there, George Washington walks up to him and slaps him in the face. Then Thomas Jefferson walks up to him and slaps him. Then James Madison walks up to and slaps in the face. And so it goes, this stuff keeps going on. Finally Arafat says, "Oh, I get it! They mean 72 *Virginians.*"

[Pushi]

Don't know why they pulled the AIDS thread. Guess FR is getting too PC.

[First_Salute]

FAS - U.S. Navy ships

[snopercod]

Bloody wonderful. America's enemies must love that site.

[Nogbad]

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