Posted on 08/25/2002 3:13:55 PM PDT by Glutton
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Portland Police defended the use of rubber bullets during the demonstration against President Bush's visit Thursday, saying officers fired them at specific people committing crimes in compliance with police policy to protect officers in danger.
Yet one type of munition is designed to hit the ground, bounce and strike several people to move a crowd -- an apparent contradiction to the bureau's own recommendation on less-lethal force after the May Day 2000 riots.
"No less-lethal use of force is used to disperse crowds or is deployed at a crowd," the recommendation states.
Portland Police Chief Mark Kroeker and Assistant Chief Greg Clark, the incident commander during Bush's appearance at a Republican fund-raiser at the Hilton Portland, dismissed much of the criticism Friday. They commended the bureau and the four assisting police agencies for helping them achieve their goal of protecting the president without serious injury or property damage.
"When we're dealing with a presidential visit, we have to draw very definite lines, and if people cross them, we have to react," Clark said.
Clark said police fired the rubber munitions, which he described as more accurate than beanbag shots, to protect officers in a car protesters were hammering with signs.
Two Portland officers fired rubber sting-ball rounds from 37 mm single-shot guns at the people who had leaped onto the car, their police reports said. A third officer fired a rubber baton, or projectile, from a Sage gun at a protester who was about to hurl a cylindrical object at police, the report said.
The rubber sting-balls are generally fired at the ground, then bounce in a skip-shot and can strike several people during their flight, officers said. The Sage gun projectiles are considered target-specific. Police are instructed not to fire a Sage gun at a target less than 10 feet away; no minimum is set for the sting-ball shots.
"They followed the rules of engagement," Clark said. "It was an officer rescue. Those were not used for crowd dispersal."
Here are two links to look at: Note, this posting was pulled from Indymedia during the time I first saw it, the present time when I proof my hyperlinks to make this posting, thus the "no story yet" filler currently in the link, which I will leave
-Statment of independace- (August 25th 2002 A.D.)
We took the streets and fought bravily, We showed the world that the the Pacific NW is NOT the place for tyrants and their lackies. Let all of the forces of oppresion be on notice the the NW will not stand idolily by as you conquier and inslave the world. We are stronger than you know; We can and will win against their hired mercinaries.
Here and now, And for all the world to see, WE wish to make the call for independance.
Freedom from the nightmare that has become amerikkka. Freedom from the insainity that passes as modern socity. Freedom from the rape of our wild lands. Freedom from the whole of the wage-slave system. Our lives must be reclaimed as our own. We must declair a NW free-state. A place where ALL run-away slaves can run to. A lost-found land of liberation.
Some will laugh at this idea and to them I say: let them laugh. For they are the followers, they would jump to their own demise at the urging of their shambled govemnment. Let the followers and exploters and those that have NO vision become irrelavant. Their opinions serve only to delay the inevatable; The creation of a NW Free-state.
Clearly the probelems of the global system of explotation would not be solved by this action, but It will be a step forward to a more just world. The creation of a base, a base that we be a jummping off point of global insurrection. But we Must start somewhere, We Must start soon, We must make everyone see the clarity of this vision, of the inevitable outcome; Victory on OUR land. We will claim what few have had the guts and courage to claim: OUR FREEDOM, OUR LAND, THE NW FREE-STATE!
The Tribes have spoken: And a storm brews... a storm unlike any seen in our lifetime... The storm of revolution.
ONWARD TO A FREE AND INDEPENDANT NORTH-WEST...
Edacated in tha pulbic skools...
LOL, say that again when you have a couple cracked ribs and four teeth missing.
People this alienated and toxic to the point there is little reasoning with them are hard to deal with, even for Indymedia.
We'll see which one of us survives... :o)
PS this is the definition of lethal:
Main Entry: 1le·thal
Pronunciation: 'lE-th&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin letalis, lethalis, from letum death Date: 1604
1 a : of, relating to, or causing death
b : capable of causing death
2 : gravely damaging or destructive : DEVASTATING
I still say rubber bullets aren't lethal...next !!
Stop the attacks by the wacko, extreme left-wing, lunatic fringe, dirt worshipping Green Jihadist, enviro-nazis terrorist's and their toadies in the media, on our Freedoms !!
Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!
Molon Labe !!
FMCDH !!
Come from N.G.O of the U.N
I presume you saw the video taken by the news organizations. Neither the Portland police, nor the stinking commie/greenie protesters are anything to cheer about or support. Both are a threat to liberty, and you live close enough to Portland to know that. You might recall that the Portland police are the self-same ones who couldn't find the gumption to even ask questions of the arab/islamics non-citizens in this area after September 11th. Yet, they have no problem executing military operations against sick elderly people with assets who might be growing marijuana in their basement.
Mark my words, the commie protests and the techniques the police develop for use on them will eventually be turned against decent people who have the gumption to stand up for the constitution.
All too true. Which is why globalists such as the Pew family fund the Tides Foundation which funds the Ruckus Society to protest globalism. All part of the plan.
Yup. And, now that they've added a few new laws, the black-clad storm troopers with their "non-lethal" technology is exactly what we'll face if we dare to challenge the authorities over something like Klamath again.
Exactly. What kind of nation have we become when protesters are shot with rubber bullets. They should have used real ones and billed the next of kin for them.
Mayhap someday you'll be judged by similar standards of due process?
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