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Blacks file slavery suits against U.S. firms
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| Tuesday September 3
| Bill Rigby
Posted on 09/03/2002 3:31:02 PM PDT by e_castillo
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Here we go again!
To: e_castillo
Slavery was abolished in the United States in 1865. I think the statute of limitations has expired.
To: e_castillo
Slavery was abolished in the United States in 1865And every person who was there, and can show that they were hurt by this institution is due compensation. Descendants can neither show harm done to them directly, nor are they due compensation.
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posted on
09/03/2002 3:37:39 PM PDT
by
Hodar
To: e_castillo
These people have no concept of the meaning of "shame." They humiliate themselves publicly. I hope they get stuck with court costs for filing frivolous suits.
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posted on
09/03/2002 3:39:25 PM PDT
by
Clara Lou
To: e_castillo
This isn't "here we go again". This should be distinguished from the Millions for Reparations crowd that embarassed every one but themselves on the mall. These are the big guys, the big guns, filing this suit and this is where the battle will be won or lost.
The "serious" reparations threat is from these folks. They know they can't get Congress to pay reparations on the strength of their arguments and the votes of their constituents. The plan has always been to sue as many companies, in as many jurisdictions as possible to pressure these companies to lobby congress for cash for reparations. It also has the advantage that any settlements achieved in the meantime can be used for more law suits and more lobbying in Congress.
These are the serious players in the reparations battle. Of course, no more than a pittance will go to people like those mentioned in the article. They are fronts for the Jesse Jackson (and similar crowd) who want federal tax dollars to fund their organizations (and their life style.)
To: e_castillo
"The plaintiffs in the suits are not looking for personal settlements..." However the attorneys representing them and who probably instigated the who thing ARE looking for huge profits!
To: e_castillo
The more I hear, the more I'm glad I'm over fifty. The world has gone crazy and it seems to be picking up speed on a daily basis.
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posted on
09/03/2002 3:54:32 PM PDT
by
lonestar
To: DugwayDuke
I agree with you 100 percent. This is the serious stuff backed by planning and strategy.
While the article states the suit was
inspired by the success of Jewish groups in reclaiming assets and insurance policies from German and Swiss firms
that's not remotely true. In the case of the Holocaust survivors these were genuine assets that had been seized one generation out (from parents or grandparents).
In the case of slavery, the tactic will be as you said (and as was true with the tobacco suits) to launch as many actions in as many jurisdictions as possible, with as many dubious claims of "harm" as can be devised, until the state AGs step in to handle the overload.
Ultimately, as with the tobacco suits, a state-run entity of some sort will be erected to receive the proceeds of many no-contest settlements.
The AGs and the defendants will somehow negotiate a deal that causes the U.S. taxpayer and not the corporate defendant to pay the fees.
The state-protected settlement entities will employ or be run by a board of people like Julian Bond, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton. There will be lots of cushy benefits and power to those on the boards and to their friends and cronies.
The whole enterprise will be veiled in "law" and "justice," supported by taxpayers, and produce a vile and immensely corrupt quasi-public "reparations" organization.
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posted on
09/03/2002 3:56:03 PM PDT
by
angkor
To: e_castillo
This is the reparation: a one way ticket to Africa.
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posted on
09/03/2002 3:56:37 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: e_castillo
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posted on
09/03/2002 3:58:37 PM PDT
by
pupdog
To: e_castillo
Let's see. Those of us and our ancestors that had nothing to do with slavery have been paying a price for what others did 100+ years ago. In the way of increased taxes to fund the social programs that poured trillions of dollars into the pockets of the decendants of slaves. And one hell of a lot of people that are not decendants of slaves. Who just happened to be dark of skin color.
Part of these trillions was affirmative action. And the funding of black colleges. And it's likely the reason that some of these lawyers are lawyers was due to affirmative action and the hard work and taxes paid by people that had nothing to do with slavery. At a minimum, the fact that they could go to school and become educated is a tribute to this great country. And what do they do with this education? Spit in the faces of the rest of us and many others that made sure they could get such an education. And become successful.
All these lawsuits should be immediately thrown out of court and the attorneys that have brought them should be fined. Before they are removed from the bar.
To: e_castillo
Why did we have to fight a war to end slavery? Someone should have just filed a lawsuit and gotten a judge to rule that slavery was immoral and inhumane, and to order all slaves freed immediately.
I think some of these companies did not exist until after 1865.
To: e_castillo
The reparations campaign against corporations, which began by targeting insurer Aetna Corp. (NYSE:AET - News) two years ago, was inspired by the success of Jewish groups in reclaiming assets and insurance policies from German and Swiss firms which stole from Jews during the Holocaust.
This makes it a noble cause I guess.
To: e_castillo
If I have to pay, do I get a slave?
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posted on
09/03/2002 4:10:06 PM PDT
by
vidbizz
To: Paleo Conservative
In each of the suits, the plaintiffs charge that corporations are guilty of conspiracy, human rights violations and unjust enrichment from the "immoral and inhumane institution of slavery," according to the court documents. Notice they don't say it was ILLEGAL?
To: DugwayDuke
These are the big guys, the big guns, filing this suit and this is where the battle will be won or lost. In the unlikely event that they do win, they're going to regret ever filing that suit within hours. The people who actually get the money will be named, they will become pariahs throughout the nation, and race relations overall will be set back at least thirty years.
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posted on
09/03/2002 4:11:48 PM PDT
by
Timesink
To: Timesink
In the unlikely event that they do win, they're going to regret ever filing that suit within hours. The people who actually get the money will be named, they will become pariahs throughout the nation, and race relations overall will be set back at least thirty years.
I think if they win then Jesse Jackson will come from nowhere and claim the prize for his "charities". Then it will become serious.
To: e_castillo
"tobacco-makers R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Holdings Inc"
Richard Joshua Reynolds, the founder of RJ Tobacco Comany was 15 years old when the slavery ended. RJR Tocacco Comany was'nt formed until 1875.
To: Paleo Conservative
Maybe so but it still goes on in the USA with Mexican migrant workers!
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posted on
09/03/2002 4:18:57 PM PDT
by
gunnedah
To: e_castillo
What a crock of shit...
I look to the black race to put an end to this. Unfortunately, 80% + are sitting back waiting for the bucks to roll in so they get "Their fare Share"
Why don't any of these people go after the companies who sold the slaves back then, and go after the companies who sell the slaves now??
Why is the Gun Debate different?
SR
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posted on
09/03/2002 4:19:13 PM PDT
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sit-rep
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