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1 posted on 09/04/2002 7:44:11 AM PDT by xsysmgr
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...are even now openly calling for a considerable democratization of the kingdom's politics.

The Saudi royals are the Third World version of noveau riche white trash. A democratic Saudi Arabia is every Americans worst nightmare...except that the sheepskin will finally be off the wolf.

Avert your eyes when you look to Mecca, infidel...there may be a very bright flash soon.

2 posted on 09/04/2002 7:52:00 AM PDT by gundog
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The Antiwar clique doesn't get it. We've tried to stay out of their politics. We support the existence of Israel, they want to slaughter the Jews. Get over it, it ain't gonna happen. The Middle East terror-supporting States have been attacking us, since the mid-60's. With 9/11, they invited us in to solve their problems.

We're not going to allow those States to sponsor terrorism any more. They can stop on their own or we'll do it for them. Saddam and Iraq are only the next step after Afghanistan. Saddam is unreformable and he must go.

What comes after Iraq, I don't know. I do know Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia are all on the list. The establishment of an anti-terror, pro-America Iraq will sure make the next steps much easier. I support the partition of (Saudi) Arabia into several Arab Emirates. Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait are NOT problems to the US and let's add to their ranks. The Ba'athist regimes of Iraq and Syria will go. Iran's Mullah regime will go. What follows is less our problem and will ultimately be up to the people of those countries.

4 posted on 09/04/2002 8:14:04 AM PDT by Kermit
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The author of this article is both right and wrong.

No one, including us, can do everything at once. If we tried to define all objectives at once, we could find it impossible (or much more difficult) to accomplish ANY of them.

The first step, toppling Saddam, is clear. Once we do, the next steps will be easier to define, and much easier to accomplish.

For instance, Iraq will make a great staging area for operations against Iran, Syria, and/or Saudi Arabia. The strategic situation will have changed dramatically in our favor. All kinds of good things might happen...
5 posted on 09/04/2002 8:19:50 AM PDT by EternalHope
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Indeed, it is a very traditional sort of war, one at which the U.S. has always excelled: It is a war against tyrants and in the name of freedom. Our greatest weapon in this war is the people oppressed by tyrannical regimes. They constitute a lethal dagger aimed at the hearts of their rulers. And knowing this, the tyrants fear us.

Absolutley false and stunningly ignorant. Why does Mr. Leeden suppose that we support the Saudi ruling family? Why does he suppose that we abandoned the shiite uprising in Iraq at the end of the gulf war? Why does he suppose that we support corrupt and oppressive regimes all over the middle east? Is it because "the people" are clamoring for Democracy and freedom and liberty and are starving for western style government and culture? No- the exact and total opposite. We support the rulers we do and allowed Sadaam to remain in power because if they were to fall they would be replaced by radical Islamic totalitarian regimes.

Western thinking has barely penetrated the Islamic world. You can count the number of Arab or Muslem pro western intellectuals on one hand. The people in these countries don't look to western ideas and ways as there deliverance from oppression- just the opposite- they look to radical islamic groups. Osama is a folk hero to the common man on the street in these countries! Leeden is either dangerously ignorant or a knowing purveyour of untruth. There is no great groundswell of western support among these people- not in the slightest.

6 posted on 09/04/2002 8:33:22 AM PDT by Burkeman1
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...support a vast democratic revolution to liberate all the peoples of the Middle East from tyranny. That is our real mission...

The writer is an deluded! He apparently does not understand democracy or Islam. Islam and democracy are incompatible; Islam demands submission to its self-appointed leaders, not representative government by consent of the masses.

7 posted on 09/04/2002 8:37:00 AM PDT by TexasRepublic
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My Grandfather's WW II bomber was named The Axis Grinder :)
8 posted on 09/04/2002 8:38:41 AM PDT by Technocrat
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Mr. Ledeen is on Dennis Prager right now on KLRA.

Very good stuff.

FMCDH

10 posted on 09/04/2002 9:24:22 AM PDT by nothingnew
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"We are the one truly revolutionary country on earth."

Let's hope the revolution spreads and destroys the international 'order'. ;^)
16 posted on 09/04/2002 12:13:11 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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Ping
21 posted on 09/04/2002 3:48:10 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: *zion_ist; BenF
BTTT
29 posted on 09/04/2002 11:29:43 PM PDT by rmlew
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