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Another bin Laden aide in custody after raid
times online ^ | 9/16/02

Posted on 09/15/2002 5:42:00 PM PDT by knak

A SECOND senior aide of Osama bin Laden arrested during last week’s raid on al-Qaeda hideouts in Karachi is being interrogated by American investigators at a secret location in Pakistan.

The revelation came yesterday as the United States said that it was seeking the extradition of Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who was captured after a shoot-out last week.

The Pakistani authorities said that the arrest of the two senior al-Qaeda leaders and ten other foreign militants was the most serious blow so far to the al-Qaeda terrorist network of Osama bin Laden, which has been trying to regroup in Pakistan.

Pakistan has refused to identify the second al-Qaeda figure, but speculation is focused on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, one of bin Laden’s chief lieutenants, who was interviewed recently in Karachi along with bin al-Shibh by al-Jazeera, the Arab cable television station.

The authorities said that they were awaiting details about the man’s family origins before confirming his identity. Some other reports suggested that the man was a media adviser to bin Laden.

Pakistani authorities said that more arrests were expected based on information obtained from documents seized from the suspects. Several laptop computers and satellite telephones were seized from their hideouts.

“We have captured from bin al-Shibh addresses and other information about other members of al-Qaeda who had taken sanctuary in Karachi. The other raids were made on the basis of that information,” an intelligence source said.

Pakistani officials admitted that a number of Yemenis had been arrested. At least one Yemeni was allegedly involved in the murder of Daniel Pearl, an American reporter for The Wall Street Journal. A Yemeni is believed to have cut Mr Pearl’s throat. A senior police source said that a guard at the compound where Mr Pearl had been held identified the man as one of the two Yemenis who killed the journalist. He said that the second suspect could also be among those arrested.

Sheikh Ahmed Saeed Omar, a British-born Islamic militant, was sentenced to death earlier this year by an anti-terrorism court for his role in Mr Pearl’s kidnap and murder.

Bin al-Shibh and other al-Qaeda operatives remained under interrogation by Pakistani and US intelligence agencies, four days after they were captured in a shoot-out in a residential neighbourhood of Karachi. American authorities were primarily responsible for questioning them, but officials said that technically they remained in Pakistani custody.

The FBI believes that bin al-Shibh was to have been the twentieth hijacker in the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington but did not take part after he was denied entry into the United States. Bin al-Shibh has claimed to be the co-ordinator of the four simultaneous hijackings.

Moinuddin Haider, the Interior Minister, said that Pakistan was willing to extradite them to the United States, but he did not say when they would be flown out. Last night Germany dropped a request for the extradition of bin al-Shibh for his part in a Hamburg-based al-Qaeda cell that planned the September 11 attacks.

Though no public indictment has been issued against bin al-Shibh in the United States, he has been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the case of Zacharias Moussaoui, the so-called twentieth hijacker, who was arrested before September 11.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binalshibh; binladen; danielpearl; mohammed; omar; pakistan; pearl
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To: The Great Satan
If they turn him over, we should use truth serum. Do they ever use that? If not, why not? Besides finding out where other Al Qaeda are, including whether Bin Laden is still alive, we need to know where the financial assets are. They need those as much as people on the ground.
21 posted on 09/15/2002 6:34:42 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye
Give him truth serum and get the link established to Saddam Hussein of Iraq!

That is all we need!
22 posted on 09/15/2002 6:39:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: vbmoneyspender
I'm not so sure Al Jazeera's help was unintended.
23 posted on 09/15/2002 6:45:34 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Dialup Llama
Bin Laden's connection with Yemen extends beyond his father's birth there. The key is the wholesale honey market in the Middle East.

These guys might be AlQaida. They might also be nothing more than "enforcers" for Bin Laden's honey cartel.

That's why it took nearly a year before they were busted.

24 posted on 09/15/2002 6:47:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: aristeides
You may be right about that.
25 posted on 09/15/2002 6:48:40 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: knak; aristeides; Howlin; vbmoneyspender
The fact they are keeping the name of the second important Al Qaeda figure quiet suggests that it is important that others in their network not know who it is. If it is a key controller, who they know knows them, they will run for cover. My guess is that a lot of operatives are being rounded up right now. Bin al Shibh looks like an excellent candidate for the military tribunal, after he has been squeezed dry. Nothing would do more to destroy Islamic fundamentalism than the spectacle of top Al Qaeda people being executed in the West.
26 posted on 09/15/2002 6:53:00 PM PDT by thucydides
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To: Howlin
Indeed it is. We are finally reelin' em in.
27 posted on 09/15/2002 7:34:18 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: thucydides
nice to let them all know... their leaders/cowards, have started rolling and we are developing the entire "knock list" for their operation...

We are also closing in on STATES that have sponsored them knowingly... probably not just the arab ones...

china?
28 posted on 09/15/2002 7:54:11 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: vbmoneyspender
Good point about al Jazeera's help, but maybe it wasn't quite so unintended. Al Jazeera's HQ is in Qatar. This is one sheikdom that seems to have recognized the current direction of the wind.

If the Muslim news service is compromised it will serve to further isolate the al Queda cells. They will have to view with great suspicion any info transmitted by al Jazeera. Any doubt, confusio, or bewilderment that can be directed al Queda's way is cause to celebrate.

29 posted on 09/15/2002 8:23:27 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: knak
Bin al-Shibh has claimed to be the co-ordinator of the four simultaneous hijackings.

An "impressive" job if so, since he would have had to have done it entirely from outside the USA. Lots of phone calls and/or email and/or faxes, which nobody noticed. I take it with a tiny grain of salt, since Muslim bullies are also known to be highly exaggeratory braggarts.

30 posted on 09/15/2002 9:29:24 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Robert_Paulson2
>We are also closing in on STATES that have sponsored them knowingly... probably not just the arab ones...

>china?

New Jersey, Michigan, Florida.

31 posted on 09/16/2002 12:43:23 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: blam
Think you'll wanna sic your pooches on 'em, blam? I know my two pits would love to make their acquaintances.

I'll save some money that way. They sure do eat a lot...

;^)

32 posted on 09/16/2002 2:41:18 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Dog Gone; Illbay
Pakistan has been extraditing to us without even giving the suspects a hearing.

And they have rounded up about 400 of these perps. Musharrif is Dubya's B*tch. Contrast to Scumbag, who couldn't even control his own wife.

Actually, the Pakis are doing really well, IMHO. I'm sure there are still scattered al-Qaeda sympathizers in the intelligence service, police and military, but the degree to which Pakistan has reversed policy is quite amazing. Many Paki police and intelligence agents are putting it all on the line to fight terrorism. (However I fear that India/Kashmir may still be something of an exception in this regard.)

33 posted on 09/16/2002 7:45:51 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: rdb3
"Think you'll wanna sic your pooches on 'em, blam? I know my two pits would love to make their acquaintances.

"I'll save some money that way. They sure do eat a lot...

That's an idea but, I wouldn't want to make them sick with the 'tainted' meat.

34 posted on 09/16/2002 7:49:06 AM PDT by blam
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To: thucydides; Poohbah; Grampa Dave
We have two options to get the info out of this crrep:

1. Sears DieHard battery and jumper cables.
2. Versed IV.

Let the debate begin!!
35 posted on 09/16/2002 9:55:40 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: knak
I was watching FOXNEWS at lunch and they mentioned that this guy was in US hands at this time, en route to an "Undisclosed Location" for interregation by "American and Allied interregators".

In other words, no trip to GITMO or the US for justice for this guy. They'll take him someplace like Turkey, and let the Turks "interrogate" him. The US interregator will simply be there to observe and learn what he can.

This guy doesn't get do replay of the "Ramsey Youseff" public charade, he just gets a chance to make all kinds of serious decisions about his future in a more private setting.

I bet that knocks some of his defiance out of him pronto... which is just fine with me, I'm pretty tired of seeing these maggots use our freedoms as a weapon against us.

36 posted on 09/16/2002 10:01:08 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: hchutch
We could actually give them the choice. After the Sears Die Hards are connected to jumper cable, you could connect one of the alligator clips to a certain part of their anatomy if Al Qaeda thugs have that part still left.

Then you give them the choice of the Versed IV or actual connection of the second cable via the alligator clip to another piece of their anatomy!
37 posted on 09/16/2002 10:03:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Howlin
""Well, maybe a little checkmark."

"This is EXCELLENT."

It SURE IS...1 little, TWO little, THREE little checkmarks....

38 posted on 09/16/2002 10:38:39 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: aristeides
"I'm not so sure Al Jazeera's help was unintended."

I am. Unless they felt the need not to have the names of some of their editors and producers put on "wanted" lists. Unless they didn't have a choice but to cooperate.

The US did a little electronic serveillance on bin al-Shibh's satellite phone, the scuttlebut goes...and most likely, it was his interview with al Jazeera. Al Jazeera has proven itself to be biased toward extremists...it's take an awful lot to convince me they've changed their tune.

39 posted on 09/16/2002 11:11:45 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: hchutch
I'm a Sears DieHard kinda guy, myself. But don't forget the 200-piece Sears Craftsman tool set, there's LOTS of toys for an up-and-coming Torquemada interrogation specialist to use.
40 posted on 09/16/2002 12:00:14 PM PDT by Poohbah
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