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Iraqi scientist says materials for nuclear bombs in hand!
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 9-16-02 | By Paul Martin

Posted on 09/16/2002 9:51:33 AM PDT by vannrox

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:57:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"The beauty of the present system is that the units are each very small, and in the four years since the inspectors left, they will have been concealed underground or in basements or buildings that outwardly seem normal," he said.


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In other news...Key Democrats oppose Bush making any effort in Iraq. Stating that there was not enough proof yet. They want to wait until after the elections to make up their minds whether or not to support the War effort.
1 posted on 09/16/2002 9:51:33 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
if, and line by line , this is true

the one I want to slap first

is that POS Sen. (Nebraska) Chuck Hagel

2 posted on 09/16/2002 9:56:58 AM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: vannrox
BTTT.
3 posted on 09/16/2002 2:44:05 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: vannrox
Query: don't they need elemental fluorine? To make uranium hexafluoride.

If my memory is correct this is part of the process. Who is selling them the fluorine?...the Germans?...?

--Boris

4 posted on 09/16/2002 6:40:12 PM PDT by boris
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To: boris
From what I recall the whole uranium hexafluoride process is a big, massive, industrial strength program that requires big processing facilities and lots of infrastructure. Is that process still being used for uranium enrichment? Or are there some new processes that are simpler to implement? Because uranium hexafloride is a nasty, nasty chemical and a nasty way to make enriched uranium. It's not something the average desert denizen is going to be able to play with successfully.
5 posted on 09/16/2002 6:47:28 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: boris
Who is selling them the fluorine?

You should be able to get elemental flourine out of the ground. Although I have no idea what the elemental content of the ground in Iraq is, I'm willing to wager that flourine is not a big problem to get.

6 posted on 09/16/2002 6:47:50 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: Billy_bob_bob
"From what I recall the whole uranium hexafluoride process is a big, massive, industrial strength program that requires big processing facilities and lots of infrastructure. Is that process still being used for uranium enrichment? Or are there some new processes that are simpler to implement? Because uranium hexafloride is a nasty, nasty chemical and a nasty way to make enriched uranium. It's not something the average desert denizen is going to be able to play with successfully."

I did some research. The most primitive means of making enriched uranium uses a device called a "calutron". It was abandoned by the U.S. and other nations because it is the costliest (requires huge amounts of power). As far as I can tell it does not use UF6. Here's a quote:

"In this process, uranium atoms are ionized (given an electrical charge) then sent in a stream past powerful magnets. The heavier U-238 atoms are deflected less in their trajectory than the lighter U-235 atoms by the magnetic field, so the isotopes separate and can be captured by collectors. The process is repeated until a high concentration of U-235 is achieved. An American version of the EMIS process, featuring "calutrons", was used in the Manhattan Project. EMIS was also the principal process pursued by the Iraqi uranium enrichment effort."

The UN had many calutrons destroyed post Desert Storm.

However:

" Tracking Number: 209554
(920114)

"Title: Iraq has admitted receiving components from German companies that would have enabled it to produce enough uranium for three or four nuclear bombs a year. UN Report. (920114)

"Date: 19920114

"Text:
*POL208

"01/14/92 UNITED NATIONS REPORT, TUESDAY, JANUARY 14

"U.N. TEAM FINDS NEW IRAQI NUCLEAR EVIDENCE

"Iraq has admitted receiving components from German companies that would have expanded its ability to produce enough uranium for three or four nuclear bombs a year, the United Nations said January 14.

"The significance of the admission, the U.N. said, is that Iraq, which had previously admitted research and development activities in the field of gas centrifuge enrichment, has now acknowledged that it was pursuing a production-scale program of uranium enrichment by this method.

"This acknowledgement will help the United Nations form a clearer picture of some of the sensitive aspects of the Iraqi nuclear program. The information provided as the basis for the present inspection related to some of the components essential for the construction of 10,000 centrifuges, according to a U.N. spokesman who asked not be identified.

"A nuclear inspection team headed by Dr. Maurizio Ziffero of the International Atomic energy Agency (IAEA) and the deputy executive director of the U.N. Special Commission overseeing the destruction of Iraqi Weapons, Dr. Robert Gallucci, went to Iraq after receiving detailed information from the German government on exports by German companies to Iraq in the years before the gulf war.

"According to the German government, the exports were "significant items and materials" related to Iraq's gas centrifuge uranium enrichment program, which was designed to produce weapons grade material. The quantities exported were "appropriate to the production scale program," the spokesman said.

"The U.N. team conducted a "short notice inspection" on January 12. Afterwards, the U.N. team leaders met with the Iraqi foreign minister and top officials of the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission to present the evidence of the transfers of items and materials from German companies and to ask for explanations as to why these items and materials had not been declared and made available during several previous inspections, the spokesman said.

"On January 13, part of the team led by Ziffero pursued the issue of the centrifuge program, according to the U.N. Following a series of short notice inspections, the nuclear inspection team again met with Iraqi officials who for the first time admitted that Iraq had received items and materials described to them the previous evening.

"Iraqi officials told the team that the items and materials had been destroyed by Iraq on its own initiative immediately after the adoption of Security Council Resolution 687 (which was passed on April 3 and spelled out the conditions for a permanent end to hostilities), the United Nations said. They offered to let the U.N. team see the destroyed materials on January 14.

"The spokesman said that it is still unclear how far the Iraqi program had developed because the Iraqis had destroyed the evidence. U.N. inspectors will now have to determine whether all the equipment has been destroyed or find where Iraq may have hidden the parts or assembled centrifuges.

"Experts have said that if all the centrifuges had been assembled, they could have produced about 75 to 100 kilograms of enriched uranium, which would be enough for three or four bombs a year."

--Boris

7 posted on 09/16/2002 7:34:03 PM PDT by boris
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To: realpatriot71
"You should be able to get elemental flourine out of the ground."

Yeah, but it takes lots of energy to get it from minerals. Fluorine binds tightly. Making elemental F2 is a major industrial operation and requires lots of electric power.

For example:

"(fl´rn, –rn) , gaseous chemical element; symbol F; at. no. 9; at. wt. 18.998403; m.p. -219.6 deg C; b.p. -188.14 deg C; density 1.696 grams per liter at STP; valence -1. Fluorine is a yellowish, poisonous, highly corrosive gas. It is the most chemically active nonmetallic element and is the most electronegative of all the elements. Fluorine is a member of group VIIa of the periodic table. It readily displaces the other halogens from their salts. It combines spontaneously with most other elements—exceptions are chlorine, nitrogen, oxygen, and the so-called inert gases (helium, neon, argon, krypton, xenon, and radon), but it even combines with most of these when heated. Fluorine reacts with most inorganic and organic compounds. With hydrogen it forms hydrogen fluoride gas, whose water solution is called hydrofluoric acid. Because of its extreme reactivity, fluorine does not occur uncombined in nature. Fluorine gas is produced commercially by electrolysis of a solution of hydrogen fluoride containing potassium hydrogen fluoride. The mineral fluorite, or fluorspar (calcium fluoride), is the chief commercial source. Cryolite and apatite are other important natural compounds. Although there was no commercial production of fluorine before World War II, the use of the gas in a process for refining uranium ores prompted its manufacture."

"Fluorine occurs chiefly in the minerals fluorspar and cryolite, but is rather widely distributed in other minerals. It can be obtained by electrolysing a solution of potassium hydrogen fluoride in anhydrous hydrogen fluoride in a vessel of metal or transparent fluorspar."

--Boris

8 posted on 09/16/2002 7:41:06 PM PDT by boris
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To: boris
Even so, I think the Iraqis could get flourine. However, and I'm no particle physicist, I'm pretty sure they'd have trouble making the uranium flouride salt.
9 posted on 09/16/2002 8:20:53 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: vannrox
Experts suggest the method being used by Iraq can take from four to seven years, depending on the number of centrifuges. Mr. Hamza said Iraq would have begun work in earnest as the inspectors left in 1998.

1998 + 4 = 2002

Daschle and Hagel et al are perfectly willing to sacrifice a city for their partisan gains.

Drop them on Baghdad in the first attack.

10 posted on 09/16/2002 8:31:36 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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