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Do Republicans Stand For Anything?
Toogood Reports ^ | Septemeber 16, 2002 | W. James Antle III

Posted on 09/16/2002 11:26:09 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

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1 posted on 09/16/2002 11:26:09 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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The only difference between the Reps and Demos is that when I see a Republican, I think "Reagan," and hope there's any hope at all; when I see a Democrat, I think "Clinton," and I want to puke.
2 posted on 09/16/2002 11:35:08 AM PDT by warchild9
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Do Republicans Stand For Anything?

Generally we stand for the Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem.

3 posted on 09/16/2002 11:39:54 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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Do Republicans Stand For Anything?

No. Next question.

4 posted on 09/16/2002 11:53:38 AM PDT by TBP
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>>Do Republicans Stand For Anything?

Of course they do...they stand for getting re-elected..in that they beleive firmly..all other beliefs are secondary and negotiable (of course this also holds true for dimo-crats)
6 posted on 09/16/2002 12:02:00 PM PDT by freeper12
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Some do, some don't. Our job is to hold their feet to the fire.

Responses like "no, "getting re-elected" and other such mindless generalizations demonstrate only ignorance, and contribute nothing to the debate.

7 posted on 09/16/2002 12:04:22 PM PDT by mountaineer
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It's my opinion, that they do not stand for protecting our borders or our sovereignty, and they seem to have no desire to reform our out of control immigration "free for all", even during war time.
8 posted on 09/16/2002 12:12:28 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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How can you tell? They say one thing and do another.

I think the Reps have way too many moderates. Moderates don't stand for anything and therefore are not leaders. If the wind blows this way they lean with the wind. We need great leaders who lead not follow. An uncommitted person cannot be trusted in office.
9 posted on 09/16/2002 12:37:16 PM PDT by jwh_Denver
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To: mountaineer
Our job is to hold their feet to the fire.

When I first joined this forum, many forum participants did just that...to congressmen on both sides of the aisle. Now, I'm not too convinced of that.

Sure the Clinton scandals, fraud and deceit drew us all together. The 'target' easily defined. The focus was much clearer. But, then the Clintons left pretty much unscathed. Special Investigators were shut down, Bob Ray closed up shop. The forum was experiencing a vacuum.

IMHO... too many 'RINOs' in the present administration have received too much support, too many excuses. Now it appears dissent will be quashed, differing opinions ridiculed.

President Bush has wasted so much of his political capital. The lack of 'support' for his judicial nominees has been a great letdown. President Reagan would have least presented his views, his rationale to the American populace. Congress may have been pressured to act upon the President's requests. But Bush has allowed his judicial nominees to dangle for >400 days. Now with his approval, job performance ratings slipping...it certainly will not happen now. A wasted opportunity.


10 posted on 09/16/2002 12:40:23 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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It doesn't matter. Just vote in every election and vote for the major party (DEM or REPUB) candidate that is the least Socialistic. You'll feel good about it and you won't have to worry about party labels.
11 posted on 09/16/2002 12:47:10 PM PDT by Consort
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Its a physical impossibility for a lot of Republican pols out there to stand due to the lack of a spine. Particularly in the senate.
12 posted on 09/16/2002 12:49:17 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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We have a responsibility to get after any politician of either party, including the president, for failing to do the right thing. If we disagree with what they've done we should make that clear to them. Bitchin' and generalizin' on a discussion forum doesn't really accomplish anything, though. Write letters, call radio talk shows, and let the politicians know we won't stand for RINOs, appeasement or spinelessness.
13 posted on 09/16/2002 12:57:43 PM PDT by mountaineer
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Write letters, call radio talk shows, and let
the politicians know we won't stand for RINOs,
appeasement or spinelessness

You don't have it exactly right.  Whatever is
necessary to get elected and to hold onto
power, that is what Republicans are and
will do.  The only RINO I know of is
Ron Paul.  He is a Libertarian elected as
a Republican.

What you are thinking of is a politician
who violates the principles on which he
claims to stand for electoral purposes.
In this case that would be a CINO,
or conservative in name only.  Conservatism
has solid principles that seldom change.
Republican principles change on a dime if
that is what it takes to take or wield power.

14 posted on 09/16/2002 4:09:46 PM PDT by gcruse
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It's my opinion, that they do not stand for protecting our borders or our sovereignty, and they seem to have no desire to reform our out of control immigration "free for all", even during war time.

The problem is that there are two basic divisions in the Republican Party:

Conservatives who support a smaller government, secure borders, American culture and ideals, job and community security, English as the only national language.

Business interests who are interested in profit, global corporate interests, cheap labor, little restriction on their profit-making capabilities.

The two groups are often in natural conflict with one another. GWB seems to be more in tune with corporate interests than with social conservatives.

It might become essential to choose which is the most important issue for each individual, and vote for who best supports that. For me, that issue is the borders...if we don't do something about people coming into the country (legally and illegally), there won't be anything of the US left to preserve.

15 posted on 09/16/2002 4:19:43 PM PDT by grania
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if we don't do something about people coming into the country (legally and illegally), there won't be anything of the US left to preserve.

And I completely agree with this.

16 posted on 09/16/2002 5:49:25 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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"For me, that issue is the borders...if we don't do something about people coming into the country (legally and illegally), there won't be anything of the US left to preserve. "

Absolutely!!!

I feel the immigration, both illegal and 'sort-of legal' reaches into all aspects of our lives.

It is a social issue.

It is a legal issue.

It is a defense issue.

It is an economic issue.

We (the taxpayers) will pay the price for so-called cheap food and goods. We can pay at the check-out or we can pay when the government presents us the bill for all the hidden costs of our folly. Personally, I would rather know exactly what I am paying for an item. Some will make a profit because they do not pay as much out of pocket for these workers, but the rest of us will have to subsidize his windfall.

Not only do we pay in money, we pay in the destruction of our cultural, in the demise of the middle class and in the sovereignty of this nation.

17 posted on 09/16/2002 6:09:13 PM PDT by nanny
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Yes, apparently they stand for getting bashed by those who are supposed to be conservatives to the point that socialist democrats end up getting elected and destroying the country. Makes wonderful sense doesn't it?
18 posted on 09/16/2002 6:12:18 PM PDT by ladyinred
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About the only thing I've seen the Republicans stand for is the US flag. Poppy Bush tried to pass an amendment about it, but it flopped as it should have.

It made good screen play though.
19 posted on 09/16/2002 6:15:12 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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I meant the unified Republican party in my previous post.
20 posted on 09/16/2002 6:16:21 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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