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CONSPIRACY: The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection
Philadelphia News ^ | Oct. 03, 2002 | Michael Smerconish

Posted on 10/03/2002 8:14:28 AM PDT by aculeus

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To: agrandis
I believed the FBI claimed to have interviewed Andy over the telephone. Now that's a laugher.One doesn't have to interview their own CI it's called a "debrief".

Andy was "security officer" for the white supremacist camp outside of OKC. That camp was being run by Millar now a confirmed but very dead FBI informant. Regardless of the "players" the circumstances around the bombing indicate that the "bad guys" burned the "good guys". The rest was and remains CYA- bigtime.

161 posted on 10/04/2002 7:42:41 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: agrandis
Oops " I believe"... hope you get my drift even if my typing sucks.
162 posted on 10/04/2002 7:44:51 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: aculeus
As for Al-Hussaini, after leaving Oklahoma City, he went on to work at Boston's Logan International Airport, the point of origin for several for the 9/11 hijackers, including Mohammad Atta.

oh purely coincidence I'm sure...(/sarcasm)

163 posted on 10/04/2002 7:52:20 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: thinden
connecting the dots to saddam is another thing.

Khalid Mohammed has been identified as the operational mastermind behind 9-11. I believe Khalid can be connected to the OKC bombing and Khalid can be connected to Saddam Hussein. The Khalid connection may be included in the information Davis provides Spector.

164 posted on 10/04/2002 8:08:20 PM PDT by honway
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To: honway
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed

Mohammed, a Kuwaiti national, was indicted in the United States in 1996 for his alleged involvement in a Philippines-based conspiracy to bomb commercial U.S. airliners. That indictment landed him on the FBI's list of 22 Most Wanted Terrorists, issued in October 2001. The Philippine report on the 1995 plot listed the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as targets. Al Qaeda leader Abu Zubaydah, who is in U.S. custody, has named Mohammed as a key financial figure in the September 11 terrorist attacks. Mohammed is believed to be somewhere in Afghanistan or Pakistan. The U.S. government has offered a $25 million award for information leading to Mohammed's arrest and conviction.

165 posted on 10/04/2002 8:45:31 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: Twodees
Another brilliant driblet enters the fray.

At what point was it neccessary for "me" to hit the abuse button? Ugh...nevermind.

"Poor form" is being an effeminate analyst commenting on things you have no insight into or facts at your disposal.

I pinged some people and was harrassed by the nonstarter for having done so. That is where it began...I finished it in short order...unless of course, you would like to take someone's place and continue.

~grin~

166 posted on 10/04/2002 8:55:59 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: lawdog
I forgot Millar died. How did he?
167 posted on 10/04/2002 8:56:40 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: VaBthang4
Since when did you become interested in the OKC bombing conspiracy?

Welcome aboard; I think you have lots of catching up to do.

People will help you if you let them.
168 posted on 10/04/2002 9:01:44 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: bvw
Huh?!? Ok, let me bite. Why?
170 posted on 10/04/2002 10:38:09 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: honway
KHALID SHAIKH MOHAMMED

CAUTION

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed is wanted for his alleged involvement in a conspiracy plot, based in Manila, The Philippines, to bomb commercial United States airliners flying routes to the United States from Southeast Asia in January of 1995. He was indicted in the Southern District of New York in January of 1996.

REWARD

The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.

SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS

IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS PERSON, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL FBI OFFICE OR THE NEAREST AMERICAN EMBASSY OR CONSULATE.

171 posted on 10/04/2002 10:38:38 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: baseballmom; honway; OKCSubmariner
Thanks for your thoughtfulness, Baseballmon. If you (or anyone would like to be added to the OKC Bombing ping list, please send me a freepmail.)

I would not get too excited about Specter's alleged participation in this -- he has known about Jayna Davis and JD#2 since at least 1995.

This is from the book "The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror", published several years ago.

"Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA) is an avid proponent of the "Terror From Within" theory. During the militia hearings, Specter asked Michigan Militia leader Norm Olson how he could say that he understood how someone could do such a thing (referring to the bombing). Although Specter took Olson's statement out of context, he should probably have asked himself that question. Specter's foregone conclusions obviously derive from a keen sense of intuition. As a young federal prosecutor during the Kennedy assassination, it was Arlen Specter who propounded the single "magic bullet" theory. Now, on the very same day as the bombing, Specter is seen propounding the single "magic bomb" theory on McNeil/Lerher."

"Now Specter, who is head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is asking KFOR for all the evidence they have collected on John Doe #2. No doubt the good Senator's collecting this information for the next Warren Commission report."

I spent the last hour searching and could not find what I thought I'd read somewhere -- that Specter had wanted to hold hearings into the OKC Bombing but was "talked out of it." Honway, help with this if you can.

I will be very suprised if Specter agrees to go over Jayna's evidence on a live radio show. That's not his style.

Hope I'm wrong, though. Specter, as I've said before, is probably the most enigmatic senator.

For all of you who believe Oliver Stone's depiction of Specter being "crazy" -- he is crazy like a fox.

If he takes up this issue in a serious way now, there is a reason for it. And I will leave it at that.

172 posted on 10/04/2002 10:42:34 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: VaBthang4; bvw
Hey VaB, you are not alone in this thread when it comes to crazy freepers trying to start silly arguments (i have seen the posts where you got attacked for pinging people)! There are 2 fellas (Flamefront and Triple) who somehow took some questions i asked in the wrong way. Strangely other freepers answered my questions very well, however these two fellas act like i defecated in their temple and slaughtered their holy cow!

And what is funny they both joined FR a long time ago, and hence are using that fact as the basis for their 'wisdom' .....in that they are some sort of FR veterans or something (one tried to tell me how he partook in the Clinton Impeachment debate on FR). To that my answer is: so bloody what! Of all the answers i got theirs were the most asinine since instead of answering questions they are telling me about their lil' debates on FR years ago.

And as for their 'warwounds' and time on FR i think that is the most hilarious facet about them. The majority of freepers (actually all) who answered me comprehensively were relative newbies, yet these two guys had been on FR for years and could not even compose a cohesive sentence without trying to impart useless info like how long they have been debating on Clinton's impeachment. Let me say if they are spokespeople for 'time spent on FR equals wisdom' they seriously failed since of all the replies theirs was not onyl acerbic but asinine. Hence in this particualr case i would say age on FR may equal experience, but definitely not wisdom or the ability to answer a question and stick to the parameters.

Ay caramba, i think some folks just go picking fights for no use VaB.

And although i am not afraid of getting into heated debate i am not going to waste my time with such folk over a thread topic that is still up in the air. Once i know the facts then tha is another story, but as far as i am concerned this is a thread that seems to have something in it (for example there is some sort of coverup), but the what is still an unknown factor. for all intents and purposes this is very similar to the Kennedy assasination brouhaha in that there seems to be a kernel of doubt with circumstancial evidence and witnesses, but as of yet no official word saying something did happen. This is not to say the Iraqis were not connected with OKC (chances are they might actually have played a hand) ....however i refuse to engage in silly jousting with Freepers who think their age on FR somehow makes them supreme sages or something like that (and yet the way they answer shows otherwise).

When it comes to argumentative debate I would rather stick to familiar territory eg Sukhois (lol).

173 posted on 10/04/2002 10:55:20 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: All
Arlen Specter's email address in case anyone wants it.

Posted with hope!

174 posted on 10/04/2002 10:56:00 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Gary Aldrich; amom; archy; aristeides; anymouse; AtticusX; backhoe; Betty Jo; ...
re-ping for new info on post#139

175 posted on 10/04/2002 10:58:36 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: taxed2death
Andy the German went back to Europe. The American Spectator did quite a thorough investigation of suspicious things connected with the Oklahoma bombing. The article, as I recall, seemed to argue that the bombing was a set-up to make the militia groups look criminal.
176 posted on 10/04/2002 11:18:47 PM PDT by Chemnitz
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To: honway
ty that a political descision has been made to make the Iraqi connection prior to the coming war.

I have been saying over and over that is what they need to do. How many people know this? Not enough, although there has been some mention of it on the mainstream media. This has to be told to the American people! They also need to tell the connection to Sept 11th! This is not a new war, but a continuation of the war on terrorism imo, and they need to say so!

177 posted on 10/04/2002 11:47:25 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: glorygirl
Thanks for the reping glorygirl. Great information!
178 posted on 10/04/2002 11:48:13 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: VaBthang4
"Poor form" is being an effeminate analyst commenting on things you have no insight into or facts at your disposal. English must be one of your least important languages. You gave an instant insight into your method by posting a comment to one which was pulled and using it to ping the site owner and the person who was with you when the other thread on the subject was hassled off the site. Pinging JR to your little arguments is a sissy's tactic. If you don't like the subject, stay off these threads. Go swoon on the daily dose threads with the other girls. Trying to get everyone banned but you and your pals is a job for the bait and snitch squad. You froth at the mouth too much to make a good bait'n'snitcher.
179 posted on 10/05/2002 4:18:40 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: editor-surveyor
But where is Poop-Bah? - where is Stinkspur?

Speaking of FedShills -- is _Jim still around?
Guess no one has posted the acronym, "ATF" lately -- to trigger his watchroom's computer... '-}

TXnMA (No Longer)

180 posted on 10/05/2002 4:32:27 AM PDT by TXnMA
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