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CONSPIRACY: The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection
Philadelphia News ^ | Oct. 03, 2002 | Michael Smerconish

Posted on 10/03/2002 8:14:28 AM PDT by aculeus

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PING!
21 posted on 10/03/2002 9:33:23 AM PDT by TigersEye
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To: backhoe
PING!
22 posted on 10/03/2002 9:34:29 AM PDT by TigersEye
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To: cloud8
Five weeks before the September 11 tragedy, I did my best to get a hold of Attorney General John Ashcroft with my concerns. The best that I could do was get in touch with an underling in that office who told me that all investigations start out at lower levels such as his. Fifteen minutes before the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, Jayna Davis got a phone call. On the other end of the line, a voice with a Mid-Eastern accent told her, ‘Turn on your TV.’ She turned it on, and witnessed what the world saw - the World Trade Center burning and shortly thereafter, a second plane flying directly into the second tower.

Absolutely chilling......
23 posted on 10/03/2002 9:42:21 AM PDT by oline
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To: soozla
WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AT THE TIME OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING????

Do we all remember the big controversy at the time? Donna Shalala had recently stated that we didn't send our best and brightest to Viet Nam and OKC blew it right off the radar screen, never to be mentioned again.

OKC was the turning point that saved the Klintoon presidency. We had him on the ropes up to that point. Then suddenly, the right wingers and the militias were portrayed as satan himself. Joe and Mary average bought it hook, line, and sinker.

24 posted on 10/03/2002 9:46:19 AM PDT by bankwalker
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To: TigersEye; *OKCbombing
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25 posted on 10/03/2002 9:47:29 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: GSWarrior
As opposed to that murderer, Mumia Babboon Yommama.
26 posted on 10/03/2002 10:26:57 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Victor
Thanks for clearing that up. I listened to an excellent radio program about him a few months back and was not entirely sure of his name or nationality.

Ciao
27 posted on 10/03/2002 11:04:15 AM PDT by taxed2death
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To: saradippity
I don't know which branch of Feds that might have been, 'cause from what I understand....other Feds gave him a free pass out of the country. That's pretty typical though, the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
28 posted on 10/03/2002 11:07:11 AM PDT by taxed2death
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I don't know which branch of Feds that might have been, 'cause from what I understand....other Feds gave him a free pass out of the country. That's pretty typical though, the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
29 posted on 10/03/2002 11:08:13 AM PDT by taxed2death
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30 posted on 10/03/2002 11:08:48 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: aculeus

An Essay on Hypocrisy
By Timothy McVeigh
Reprinted with permission from Media Bypass.

Parthenocarpy is interested in any existing or future rebuttals of this essay.
Please contact us here to contribute.


Media Bypass / Alternative Media, Inc. Editor's note: Timothy McVeigh, sentenced to death for his role in the April 19, 1995 bombing in Oklahoma City, penned the following essay, dated "March 1998," from his cell in the administrative maximum section of the federal prison in Florence, Colo. In a preface, McVeigh wrote "I have chosen Media Bypass as a possible forum for this piece because, frankly, I realize that it is quite provocative -- and I rather doubt that any mainstream media would touch it. [Note that although the enclosed is very provocative, it was written to provoke thought -- and was not written with malevolent intent.]"

McVeigh appologized for the essay being handwritten, but noted his "current (unique) environment does not provide access to a typewriter, a word processor or a copier. (hell, I'm lucky they let me have a pen!), so I hope you understand why this is being submitted handwritten -- and I hope you can overcome this shortcoming."

McVeigh, whose interview with Media Bypass [February 1996] was picked up and dissected by the New York Times and major media outlets across the nation, also expressed concerns that reporting subsequent to this essay might be "printed out of context... but at least the original can be accurate."

A decorated U.S. Army veteran of the Persian Gulf War, McVeigh hereby offers his contribution to the debate over U.S. policy toward Iraq, a policy that McVeigh says is marked by a "deep hypocrisy."


The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons ("weapons of mass destruction") -- mainly because they have used them in the past.

Well, if that's the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.Sl is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims that this was done for deterent purposes during the "Cold War" with the Soviet Union. Why, then is it invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterence) -- with respect to Iraq's (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?

The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We've all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen these pictures juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?

I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other "regional conflicts" that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of "weapons of mass destruction."

Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones-- Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants -- mostly women and children -- in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks, or months to die.)

If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of "mass destruction" -- like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above?

The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction.

Hypocrisy when it comes to death of children? In Oklahoma City, it was family convenience that explained the presence of a day-care center placed between street level and the law enforcement agencies which occupied the upper floors of the building. Yet when discussion shifts to Iraq, any day-care center in a government building instantly becomes "a shield." Think about that.

(Actually, there is a difference here. The administration has admitted to knowledge of the presence of children in or near Iraqi government buildings, yet they still proceed with their plans to bomb -- saying that they cannot be held responsible if children die. There is no such proof, however, that knowledge of the presence of children existed in relation to the Oklahoma City bombing.)

When considering morality and mens rea [criminal intent] in light of these facts, I ask: Who are the true barbarians?

Yet another example of this nation's blatant hypocrisy is revealed by the polls which suggest that this nation is greatly in favor of bombing Iraq.

In this instance, the people of the nation approve of bombing government employees because they are "guilty by association" -- they are Iraqi government employees. In regard to the bombing in Oklahoma City, however, such logic is condemned.

What motivates these seemingly contradictory positions? Do people think that government workers in Iraq are any less human than those in Oklahoma City? Do they think that Iraqis don't have families who will grieve and mourn the loss of their loved ones? In this context, do people come to believe that the killing of foreigners is somehow different than the killing of Americans?

I recently read of an arrest in New York City where possession of a mere pipe bomb was charged as possession of a "weapon of mass destruction." If a two pound pipe bomb is a "weapon of mass destruction," then what do people think that a 2,000-pound steel-encased bomb is?

I find it ironic, to say the least, that one of the aircraft that could be used to drop such a bomb on Iraq is dubbed "The Spirit of Oklahoma."

When a U.S. plane or cruise missile is used to bring destruction to a foreign people, this nation rewards the bombers with applause and praise. What a convenient way to absolve these killers of any responsibility for the destruction they leave in their wake.

Unfortunately, the morality of killing is not so superficial. The truth is, the use of a truck, a plane, or a missile for the delivery of a weapon of mass destruction does not alter the nature of the act itself.

These are weapons of mass destruction -- and the method of delivery matters little to those on the receiving end of such weapons.

Whether you wish to admit it or not, when you approve, morally, of the bombing of foreign tartgets by the U.S. military, you are approving of acts morally equivilent to the bombing in Oklahoma City. The only difference is that this nation is not going to see any foreign casualties appear on the cover of Newsweek magazine.

It seems ironic and hypocritical that an act viciously condemned in Oklahoma City is now a "justified" response to a problem in a foreign land. Then again, the history of United States policy over the last century, when examined fully, tends to exemplify hypocrisy.

When considering the use of weapons of mass destruction against Iraq as a means to an end, it would be wise to reflect on the words of the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. His words are as true in the context of Olmstead as they are when they stand alone:
"Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example."

Sincerely


Timothy J. McVeigh

Copyright (c) 1998, Media Bypass / Alternative Media, Inc


31 posted on 10/03/2002 11:11:29 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: aculeus
KEEP THE TRUTH ALIVE!
32 posted on 10/03/2002 11:12:15 AM PDT by BossyRoofer
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To: honway
ping
33 posted on 10/03/2002 11:13:35 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: jbstrick
Didn't that A$$hole Clinton let 30,000 or so Iraq soldiers and families settle into our country shortly after we kicked the living $hit out of them.
Do you think a few of the new immigrants might have had some hard feelings, being we liquified tens of thousands of their buddies? I know it's a stretch, waddya think?

Pretzel logic.
34 posted on 10/03/2002 11:14:15 AM PDT by taxed2death
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To: taxed2death
sorry for the dumb-ass double post....my pooter is a mere shadow of what it used to be.
35 posted on 10/03/2002 11:16:29 AM PDT by taxed2death
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To: Fred Mertz
The last chance for vindication came and went with the resolution for the United States to fight another UN war rather than a war of self-defense in retaliation for WTC '93 and the OKC bombing.


36 posted on 10/03/2002 11:17:17 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: taxed2death
Iraqi Intelligence- Dennis Mahon - Andres Strassmeir - Kirk Lyons - Tim McVeigh - Michael Brescia - Terry Nichols - Philippines - Yousef
37 posted on 10/03/2002 11:19:46 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: Fred Mertz
lucianne.com has this story at the top of its page today. Maybe that fact will convince the powers that be here not to delete the thread. If Lucianne features it, doesn't that mean it can't be tinfoil stuff?
38 posted on 10/03/2002 11:22:44 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aculeus
UH oh....another OKC thread. Any bets on how long it takes to get the "tinfoil" boot by the board gods?? I just wonder why this is such a sticky subject? Hmmmm.....
39 posted on 10/03/2002 11:23:09 AM PDT by hove
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To: The Great Satan
Interesting that Media Bypass/The Spotlight (of the anti-Semetic Liberty Lobby) printed his letter. The Spotlight was dragged into the McVeigh Trial because Tim, using an assumed name, he used a Spotlight calling card for some long distance calls.
40 posted on 10/03/2002 11:23:30 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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