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Saddam could stay in power if he disarms fully: Powell
Xinhua News and USA Today ^ | October 4, 2002

Posted on 10/03/2002 11:42:40 PM PDT by HAL9000

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:40:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON, Oct 3, 2002 (Xinhua via COMTEX) -- US Secretary of State Colin Powell has suggested that although Washington seeks a "regime change" in Iraq, it could leave Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in power if he disarms fully, The USA Today reported Thursday.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: colinpowell; iraq; saddamhussein
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To: The Great Satan
Actually, I think Bush wants to invade soon and is just trying to find a way militarily. Powell is throwing his own monkey wrench in the works because he does not believe in "unilateral action." Bush should not tolerate this, as it borders on insubordination, but he will tolerate it because the laternative is firing Powell, and Bush doesn't want to do that.
21 posted on 10/04/2002 7:40:04 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
Powell works for Bush. He's doing his job very well. He's a diplomat, he engages in diplomacy. That's what Powell does. Bush is pleased with Powell's performance. It's a tough job.
22 posted on 10/04/2002 9:29:59 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: bankwalker
"His power emanates from his weapons. If the weapons are removed, he will have no power."

I wonder how many terrorist groups he can finance with all the money he will save on armament?

23 posted on 10/04/2002 11:36:16 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: ArneFufkin
How do you know that Bush is pleased with Powell? How do you know that Bush is not furious with Powell for undermining him? Powell has held a different position from the rest of the administration on many different issues since day one.
24 posted on 10/04/2002 1:10:42 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
On a more positive note, the US just awarded the contract for a new anthrax vaccine to protect the civilian population:

The RFP (from April)

The Contract Award

The contract award comes with an order for 25 million doses. If everything goes according to plan, the vaccine will be through safety by the end of 2003, so presumably the stockpile could be in place by early 2004. That gives us about 18 months to put in place the infrastructure for high-speed, mass-distribution to millions of people after an attack is detected. That piece is being put in place, use Saddam's non-existent smallpox threat as a stalking horse.

Assuming Bush's plan is essentially to devote his first term to removing Saddam from the world stage -- e very reasonable objective with a realistic time-frame ("Saddam better remember, I'm a very patient man"), then I could see a pincer movement war starting next spring over the weapons inspections pretext, climaxing with a showdown in Bagdhad in spring of 2004. On this plan, Bush could have Saddam out six months before the next presidential election, which sounds about right.

My main concern would be whether we can really get the infrastructure in place to make a serious dent in casualties after, say, an NYC subway anthrax dispersal, and whether we have any decontamination technology on that time frame that could save us from having to totally right off the cities where the releases occur. The more I think about those problems, the less optimistic I am about a solution, unfortunately. Thus, I am far from discounting the possibility that Bush may simply put on a song-and-dance over the weapons stuff, and let Saddam off with a nod and wink ("Not guilty, but don't do it again!"). Powell is obviously pushing that option here, but to what end is the question.

25 posted on 10/04/2002 1:43:03 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
> Bush may simply put on a song-and-dance over the weapons stuff, and let Saddam off with a nod and wink ("Not guilty, but don't do it again!").

How are we in a stronger position to retaliate after his next attack? Why, if we dare not publicly point the finger at him now, should he be deterred, as his threat becomes more credible and ours less so?

26 posted on 10/04/2002 9:44:55 PM PDT by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby; Nogbad; Mitchell; EternalHope; Travis McGee
How are we in a stronger position to retaliate after his next attack?

We don't know there will be a next attack. He may have gotten his rocks off sufficiently on 9/11. It seems awfully quiet out there. Let's face it, as an artistic masterpiece of revenge, September 11 far surpasses anything else in human history -- Saddam has plenty of reason to quit while he's ahead. Saddam is a realist, as well as sadist. Why should he asks for the stars, when he already has the moon?

Why, if we dare not publicly point the finger at him now, should he be deterred, as his threat becomes more credible and ours less so?

Point number one: We are the ones who are being deterred, not him. He already got his rocks off on September 11, remember?

Point number two: his threat will inevitably become less credible with time, because our biodefenses will get better. He's probably gambling that, at age 65, either he'll be dead, or 9/11 will be a dead issue by the time we can take a gamble on the taking him out. He may very well have calculated correctly. Everything else about the 9/11 attacks was masterfully conceived and executed. Why should we assume the back-end security wasn't similarly well thought through?

27 posted on 10/05/2002 12:01:04 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
>It seems awfully quiet out there.

At least one attack every two years since the Gulf War . Revenge and deniability: Saddam's a grandmaster of that game. Why stop now?

>We are the ones who are being deterred, not him. He already got his rocks off on September 11, remember?

I was not speaking of his being deterred now, but questioning how he would be deterred in the scenario you described: "Bush may simply put on a song-and-dance over the weapons stuff, and let Saddam off with a nod and wink ("Not guilty, but don't do it again!")." I'm saying he won't be deterred then either. He'll continue the revenge + deniability game. No reason for him not to try again for the White House and the Congress. It took him two shots to take down the WTC. Remember?

28 posted on 10/05/2002 8:37:54 PM PDT by Wallaby
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To: bankwalker
His power emanates from his weapons. If the weapons are removed, he will have no power.

What is more pitiful than an emasculated tyrant? Seeing fear in his eyes and "Oh! Sh*t!" on his lips will be worth it. Same for Bill Clinton.

29 posted on 10/05/2002 8:46:31 PM PDT by stboz
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