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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Tuesday, Oct. 15
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 15, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/15/2002 2:17:07 AM PDT by Peach

To avoid multiple vanity threads regarding any news from press conferences, let's keep a live commentary thread going again today.

Note: This is the graphics-free thread. Graphics can be found under the thread titled "Beltway Sniper Shootings-Graphics Only"


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; fallschurch; md; nonterroristattack; sevencorners; shootings; sniper; va
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To: Peach
Where's Sherlock Holmes when we need him. Well, to add to the speculations....let's consider the following evidence:

(1) There really is a white Chevy Astrovan with ladder rack involved. What is the basis for this assumption? It has been reported by several witnesses at -- 3 -- separate shootings. Furthermore, at the most recent shooting, at least one witness reported seeing the shooter get into the van. If this is true - IF - it removes one possibility, which is the speculation that the shooter was simply waiting for a white van to drive by before taking the shot. This is important.
(2) The LEO's are looking for this van. They have been looking since the previous shooting. The call was in to 911 within 2 minutes of this most recent shooting. The cops are prestaged near highway entrances/exits, and the choppers are already in the air. Yet - this vehicle vanishes completely. Even though the word would not have been sent out that witnesses from this most recent shooting saw the white van, the cops would already be predisposed to pull over ANYwhite box truck OR white van. Yet it vanished completely.
(3) The traffic and roads near the most recent shooting would have slowed the getaway. So, by 5 minutes after the shooting they could not have been far away. But they would have heard on their scanners that the word was out on them.

Therefore, a logical conclusion is that they went to ground. Thus, they have a "bat cave" - or more than one - where they can park the vehicle within a few minutes of this shooting.

781 posted on 10/15/2002 11:11:51 AM PDT by dark_lord
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To: eno_
The drone thing sounds like more wild trashing on the part of a clueless Chief Moose.

True, but I wonder if drones could be used in tandem with something else to tag the perps...very 'spensive police choppers, basically.

And arm the hellfires. :-)

--KL

782 posted on 10/15/2002 11:11:58 AM PDT by Kip Lange
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To: Dog
Can Predator drones be armed with missiles?
783 posted on 10/15/2002 11:12:28 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Solson
Not if the shooters are putting mopeds or motorcycles in the back of a van or box truck and using that as a mode of excape. Another poster had hinted this mode of escape earlier in this post. They could be hiding their truck/van in adjacent storage facilities, mosques, industrial areas, etc.
785 posted on 10/15/2002 11:13:10 AM PDT by all4one
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To: mewzilla
Run by committee? I guess this shows why we need a Department of Homeland Security.
786 posted on 10/15/2002 11:13:26 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: dark_lord
Thus, they have a "bat cave" - or more than one ...

Hehehe, I'm sorry, that was a good post, but I'm still rolling over that line. ;-)

--KL

787 posted on 10/15/2002 11:14:04 AM PDT by Kip Lange
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To: aristeides
Yep.....
788 posted on 10/15/2002 11:15:53 AM PDT by Dog
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To: aristeides
Yeah, the ATF guy really said that. Bet it'll work for them about as well as it did for the Soviets.
789 posted on 10/15/2002 11:16:29 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: poppyseed
As far as I know, only the first (the guy in Wheaton, working for NOAA) and the last (last night's FBI analyst) victims have been federal employees.
790 posted on 10/15/2002 11:16:42 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
LOL. No, I don't think they've had Predators up. :)
791 posted on 10/15/2002 11:17:09 AM PDT by Letitring
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To: dhfnc
My understanding is that we would have to be under attack from a foreign government. Would AQ qualify?

Suppose it's Iraq, using terrorists as proxies.

792 posted on 10/15/2002 11:18:01 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: jacquej
If the day ever comes when we have to deploy OUR MILITARY inside our borders.......our collective gooses are cooked.
793 posted on 10/15/2002 11:18:42 AM PDT by Dog
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To: aristeides
I think one of the other victims was related to a Maryland LEO, FWIW. The gentleman who was a landscaper, if I remember correctly.
794 posted on 10/15/2002 11:19:01 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: aristeides
Suppose it's Iraq, using terrorists as proxies.

Immediate war.

--KL

795 posted on 10/15/2002 11:19:53 AM PDT by Kip Lange
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To: dinasour
Isn't one of the loopholes in posse comitatus for terrorism?
796 posted on 10/15/2002 11:20:02 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Suppose it's Iraq, using terrorists as proxies.

BINGO!

That should certainly qualify, IMO

797 posted on 10/15/2002 11:20:05 AM PDT by dhfnc
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To: dark_lord
A "Bat Cave" in any metro area could easily be those Rental Storage garages that have popped up everywhere. They could base their targets depending on a rental garage that is nearby, to hide their van.
798 posted on 10/15/2002 11:20:29 AM PDT by all4one
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Each killing is an affront to them....They are working around the clock with little sleep and no family life....

The analyst's death just hit a little closer to home....

NeverGore
799 posted on 10/15/2002 11:21:14 AM PDT by nevergore
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To: eno_
But you could use a drone when the weather doesn't permit using a helicopter, like last Friday.
800 posted on 10/15/2002 11:21:19 AM PDT by aristeides
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