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67 Hostages Killed, 700 Rescued in Russian raid on Chechen Terrorists
San Mateo County TImes - LA TIMES ^

Posted on 10/26/2002 2:51:40 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: Miss Marple
From the lack of response we've received so far, I can only conclude that we ALL "like living on the plantation" and are ALL taking advantage of our "oillah" based economy.

I guess some of us just get moral brownie points for complaining about it?

We won't talk about hypocrisy today....

141 posted on 10/26/2002 11:24:40 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: xJones
Excellent summation, even plain enough for the fence-sitters and sympathizers to understand..

"They are now wildly striking out all over the world: the Moscow theater, Bali, the French tanker, and so on. What they aren't able to gauge is that they are establishing themselves as mad dogs that HAVE to be killed, and revealing their *religion* as a demonic dealth cult."

Expect that will be the new definition of Islam in the next edition of Webster's -- as an historic post script.

142 posted on 10/26/2002 11:33:45 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
That was not your point. If it was your point...you would have satted such. You were wrong. That IS the point. Now you sit here and try to justify your error by saying that was not your point?

Save it and stow it. I refuse to have an intellectual conversation when the foundation is already cracked with dishonesty.

143 posted on 10/26/2002 11:34:52 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
I have no idea if this "Sebastian" is a reliable source, but I pulled this one off the same moscow news forum on which the, so far. reliable "Sergei Roy" has reported.

Possibly describing Soviet-developed Novichok-33 [*newcomer*] binary nerve gas, or possibly a derivitive, which they've also studied as to its properties when delivered in very small, controlled doses over longer periods of time than are expected under battlefield usage.

Interesting stuff...

144 posted on 10/26/2002 11:53:23 AM PDT by archy
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To: listenhillary
The U.S. would be howling if it happened here and 67 dead.

I think it would have been a total debacle if it hads happened here. We have so much PC crap that enviromentalists would have complained about the use of sleeping gas.

I was, however, amazed at the photos of the Russian authorities just dragging the dead out onto the sidewalk ... scenes like that would just never have happened here.

145 posted on 10/26/2002 12:01:41 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
I say we challenge ourselves to a crusade to free ourselves of oillah in one decade--and the developing world too,

You like to do a lot of slogan-laden bitching-and-whining about the status quo, but I have yet to see you suggest even a hint of a proposed solution. Let me guess.... You want us to drastically ramp up our nuclear energy program, right? </sarcasm>

146 posted on 10/26/2002 12:14:28 PM PDT by Dan Day
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To: ThinkDifferent
It could easily have ended with ten times as many hostages dead.

ABC Radio news, or whichever news service it was this morning said the big bomb in the middle of the theater was not detonated, and had it been, everyone would have been killed.

147 posted on 10/26/2002 12:18:07 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: blam
WOW!!!!! Thanks , blam. That says it all.
The gary montana article should be spread far and wide!
148 posted on 10/26/2002 12:28:45 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky
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To: BurbankKarl
Prayers for the victim families, glad it wasn't any worse.
149 posted on 10/26/2002 12:28:46 PM PDT by pttttt
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To: ClearBlueSky
"The gary montana article should be spread far and wide!"

Please do. Gary has given permission.

150 posted on 10/26/2002 12:37:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: Amelia
Oh, is that all this is? The sin of hypocrisy?

Let me put it this way---

Firstly, if a fish finds itself bred into a pond that is severly polluted and, against all odds, survives by growing three eyes and two heads---is that fish a "hypocrite" because it survives to complain (justly and righteously) about its pond?

The answer is "no". That fish is a "freedom fighter".

Secondly, "hypocrisy" only became the Sole Deadly Sin, I am reliably informed, in the wake of the kulturkampf of the 60s. There are many worse sins than hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy, as the saying goes, is the compliment that Vice pays to Virtue. Now that Vice has become the norm of society, it no longer feels the urge to acknowledge Virtue--much less pay it a compliment.

Among the "non-hypocrites" of World civilization in the last 100 years are: Adolph Hitler, the Ayatollah Khomeini, The Son of Sam, (John Muhammed will also probably follow in the hallowed footsteps of the non-hypocrites.)

A quote from Milan Rai--"We can no longer perceive the ideas that are shaping our thoughts, as the fish cannot perceive the sea."

Don't hold it against me that I am a two-headed, three-eyed fish who refuses to go belly up....

151 posted on 10/26/2002 1:02:41 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Don't hold it against me that I am a two-headed, three-eyed fish who refuses to go belly up....

Not to put too fine a point on it, but your problem right now is that you're criticizing everyone else for partaking in something which you're obviously feasting on too...

and you aren't offering any alternatives or solutions.

152 posted on 10/26/2002 1:08:03 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Pern
9.5% casualty rate. The Russians are getting better at hostage rescue!

This is not bad taking into account the circumstance. This was not a siege of familes suspected of child abuse, but of well armed, well trained fanatics bent on killing the infidels.

153 posted on 10/26/2002 1:14:51 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: listenhillary
The U.S. would be howling if it happened here and 67 dead.

More than that it would be NON-STOP media denigration of the Attorney General and POTUS!!

154 posted on 10/26/2002 1:15:43 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: Dan Day
"..L.et me guess.... You want us to drastically ramp up our nuclear energy program, right?...

That and much, much more. (Let's talk about the cost of maintaining our nuclear arsenal compared to the cost of containing or jettisoning nuclear waste.)

How is that we have attack submarines powered by nuclear energy, but not communities--even individual homes?

We are a malfunctioning matriarchy, dominated politically by a nervous, anti-rational soccer-mom mentality.

What happened to the"dynamic" of Western civilization? (And I freely admit that I am one of the most vocal critics of that "dynamic' when it destroys beautiful civilizations.) It has sunk into the passive somnolence of the feminist status quo.

But we must have a cohesive, educated CULTURE in order to throw off the shackles of the chaotic, expensive, consolidated, globalist, oligarchic system that now dominates us.

155 posted on 10/26/2002 1:18:57 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: archy
What an interesting link. Is the reason I can't access the "main page" that it is a Canadian source? Anyway, thanks....
156 posted on 10/26/2002 1:25:11 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
champagne run

Thank you for your excellent coverage throughout the crisis. Salut and toast.

157 posted on 10/26/2002 1:31:26 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA
As far as I know the IDF holds him because he has his own reasons if you understand what I mean...
158 posted on 10/26/2002 1:32:18 PM PDT by Ally
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To: SkyPilot
Thank you , Israel is strong and we shall overcome !
159 posted on 10/26/2002 1:35:31 PM PDT by Ally
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Despite your use of four-dollar words, two facts remain:

1. You didn't know that Anne Richards was governor of Texas during Waco, no matter how you try to obfuscate and deny it.

2. You are a hypocrite for attacking the use of oil when you do the exact same thing.

160 posted on 10/26/2002 4:36:26 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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