Wiccans Offer Alternative to Boy Scouts

CNSNews.com ^ | October 31, 2002 | Michael L. Betsch

[Vermont Lt]

aahhh.....Wiccans are not Satanists. Different club, different rules.

Its not that I mind mindless intolerance, just get the hate pointed in the right direction.

[biblewonk]

:-D Would you believe Iowa!?

[jjm2111]

Ummm. so. Last time I checked it was a free country. If the Wiccans want to form a group, let 'em form a group. so what.

[Dead Corpse]

Nice to be seen. ;-)

[Aric2000]

Give me a fricking break, it is obvious that you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

Most male Wiccans that I know are happily married to a FEMALE, and have 2 or more children. I do know of some gay wiccans, but a majority? NOT by a long shot.

I believe that being gay is wrong, it is against nature, therefore if I do run across a gay pagan, I will normally keep my distance. but most Gay pagans do not spout it. They keep it in the closet, because it is no ones business but their own.

[Dead Corpse]

Are you calling me a "homo"? My wife might be interested to hear that.

[Hunble]

I come across a male into wicca he's a homo

Thanks for that wisdom. I will tell my wife all about that tonight.

JimRob has requested that I do not talk about my religion of 30 years, and I will respect his wishes.

However, it is Halloween today, and I will address lies and slander if they are posted.

Fair?

[Aric2000]

If a pagan wishes to be a Boy Scout and admits that they are pagan, they CANNOT join the boy scouts.

The boy scouts have EVERY right to do that, but Pagans have EVERY right to start their own groups if they feel that it will be advantageous to their children.

Therefore the Spiral Scouts are a wonderful idea as far as I am concerned. and if you do not understand the spiral, you need to do a bit more research into paganism.

[OPS4]

Nope, He was satans man.
I follow Jesus Christ and his teachings.

How about you?

Spellling? Gee I have not continued my research on him since about 15 years ago it was not fresh in my mind.

Ops4 God Bless America!

[Hunble]

If a pagan wishes to be a Boy Scout and admits that they are pagan, they CANNOT join the boy scouts.

The Boy Scouts is a private organization and they can do what they wish. I absolutly support this position.

[OPS4]

I understand that if someone wishes to accept alternative ways of seeking the truth,they can, but taking on the tried and true American Christian values of the Scouts and attacking them for it is no different.

So when the shoe is on the other foot you dont like it.

Ops4 God Bless america!

[Hunble]

Wow, I follow Jesus Christ and am Wicca also.

Amazing!

[Vermont Lt]

If I remember my Order of the Arrow and Eagle scout stuff, much of it was based on Native American (Indian) culture and values. Respecting each other, loving the eart--that sort of stuff. I spent a couple of years getting booked to do Indian Dances at scout meetings. Decent pocket money for hopping around with a dress on.

Pretty pagan if you ask me.

[FeliciaCat]

Satanic values as outlined by Lavey and Crowley are the final destruction of mans free will and moral values,
with a final out come of men destroying each other like maggots! So Satan can devour their souls.



whatever.

BTW - You might want to read up on Pagan/Wiccan. They don't BELIEVE in Satan/Devil/whatever you want to call him, so it would REALLY be hard for them to worship him.....

[biblewonk]

I believe that being gay is wrong, it is against nature, therefore if I do run across a gay pagan, I will normally keep my distance. but most Gay pagans do not spout it. They keep it in the closet, because it is no ones business but their own.

What's nature got to do with "An it harm none do thy own will"?

[Alex Murphy]

Your wisecrack was one of the most biggotted, uneducated, narrow minded comment I've seen on FR.

Damn, but that "counting to one" thing sure has got you stymied, hasn't it? Must be all those biggots distracting you.

I guess you and I haven't become acquainted yet, have we?

[OPS4]

That is great! I am Glad you follow Him, and have no strange gods before him. Is that Right?

Ops4 God Bless America!

[Hunble]

Living and learning about nature is a good thing, no matter what religion you belong to.

Just remember what Ronald Regan said on another topic:

TRUST BUT VERIFY

Wise word, that I have always lived by.

Having been a Boy Scout, I do tend to get rather upset when they are attacked. Unfortunatly, that is not today's topic.

[Dead Corpse]

Good for you. You seem happy with your religion. Now follow your books advice and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

You do realize that the whole "suffer not a witch to live" stuff is a translation error don't you? Original word meant "poisoner". Since "witches" made potions, and weren't exactly favorites of early Church fathers, they got pinned with it.

LeVay was just some ghoul that wanted a way to espouse a secular humanist (ie; Man is God) position in the most flamboyant way possible by utilizing the antithesis of the Christian religion. He even co-opted the inverted pentacle which was an old Temple of Solomon symbol for a "focus on the physical realm". Stirring the batter even further, he combined in some Babylonian mythology and called it the Sign of Baphomet.

15 years? Time for a refresher course.

[biblewonk]

I haven't been to any coven meetings, maybe I'd meet more of you there. I certainly see a lot of wiccan web pages with hetero couples which is what I had hoped to meet and discuss spiritual things with. Just not finding any, until now maybe.