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It's Bush v Clinton again as Arkansas goes to the polls
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | November 3, 2002 | Julian Coman

Posted on 11/02/2002 5:10:45 PM PST by MadIvan

Arkansas residents will today and tomorrow witness what the rest of the country never got a chance to see: a political contest between George Bush Jr and Bill Clinton.

On the stump at Ouachita Baptist University, deep in rural Arkansas, the Republican senator Tim Hutchinson is standing in front of a cardboard cut-out of the President of the United States.

"I have a personal relationship with George W. Bush," he tells an audience of 300 students. "He is a good friend of mine. And President Bush will be here on Monday to push us over the finish line in the closest and most important Senate race in America."

Sixty miles away in Little Rock, the capital of Arkansas, the local Democratic Party chairman, Ron Oliver, is also preparing for a distinguished visitor - one whose credentials are more local if not quite as current.

"Mr Clinton will arrive back here on Sunday," said Mr Oliver, whose office walls are lined with photographs of the former president in his youthful days as governor of the state. "We will have the help of the best political campaigner of the previous century, back on his own patch, to give us the edge and get the vote out."

Control of the Senate is in the balance in Tuesday's congressional elections, with each party currently holding 49 seats, one seat vacant and one held by an independent.

Arkansas, the small southern state best known for its catfish suppers and the escapades of Bill Clinton, has once again taken political centre-stage.

The Senate race between Mr Hutchinson and the Democrat hopeful, Mark Pryor, is too close to call. The prize, amid the most tense congressional elections in recent memory, is valuable enough to have attracted the biggest names that the Republican and Democratic party machines can offer.

Anticipating the loss of at least one seat to a Republican in a handful of tight Mid-West contests, Democrats believe that they require a "flip result" of their own in the south to maintain control. Arkansas, which became a Republican Senate seat for the first time since the Civil War at the last elections, is the top target.

President Bush will speak at the Republican stronghold of Fayetteville tomorrow afternoon, on the eve of the national poll. Ex-president Clinton will speak today to the black Democratic heartland of Jefferson County. No other state can match that line-up.

In Little Rock, Mr Clinton's power base when governor of Arkansas and presidential candidate, it is quite like old times. Doe's Steakhouse is again full of politicians, strategists and hangers-on.

Waitresses at the Plaza Grille restaurant wistfully remember the times when tips were good and the gossip was even better. "It was never a dull moment with Bill Clinton," said one.

Pardon me whilst I'm sick in the corner - Ivan

In a race defined by who the two candidates know rather than what they say, the Republicans countered the Clinton factor with an extraordinary array of star appearances last week. Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, toured the state yesterday.

Charlton Heston, known locally as "Moses" after his most famous film role, spoke on the same platform as the Republican candidate the day before. Oliver North also made the trip to Little Rock.

The two candidates have meanwhile made a spirited attempt to keep a grip on their campaigns. Mr Hutchinson accused his opponent of favouring tighter legislation on gun ownership, a certain vote-loser in Arkansas. Mr Pryor responded by appearing in a television spot wearing military fatigues and brandishing a rifle.

Democrat campaigners have gleefully accused Mr Hutchinson, who is closely associated with the religious Right, of lax moral standards following his divorce and subsequent remarriage to a member of his Senate staff. To ram the point home, Mr Pryor appears on the hustings with a Bible. The poll ratings remain stubbornly even.

Among young Republicans at Ouachita Baptist University, there was a distinct air of apprehension. "Clinton is an operator and a pretty unscrupulous one at that," said Stuart Jones, the chairman of the university Republican group.

As he spoke, a student removed the cardboard cut-out of Mr Bush. With a fraught Senate campaign reaching its final stages, Mr Hutchinson will be relieved to see the President in the flesh tomorrow.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: arkansas; bush; clinton; hutchinson; uk; usa
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To: wirestripper
When you marry a bitch you divorce her. I wasted years of my life with one.

Just as I thought. Reminds me of all the divorced men who demanded that Elian be sent back to Castro - - - getting divorced colors one's outlook on a lot of things

81 posted on 11/02/2002 7:13:04 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: KingKongCobra
Jeremy Hutchinson resides in Little Rock with his wife, son and baby daughter. He is an investment banker and the son of Senator Tim Hutchinson.

LOL! If you believe the Rat spin on this crap, he deserves child support and is not getting it from the evil senator. LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

82 posted on 11/02/2002 7:13:52 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: churchillbuff
No DEAR I don't speak Clintonite. You sound just like some of the people who sit on the front row church pews who still think Clinton is GOD! What if you found out that every politician slept around? Who would you vote for them? Maybe there is someone in YOUR OWN FAMILY who has done the same. Would you forgive them or throw them to the dogs? Forgiveness is as much a part of being a christian as anything else. Maybe you forgot that part.

People who judge others as immorals and worthless sometimes get the same things in their own families. I suppose your family is PERFECT? Or, maybe members of your family just don't tell you because they would fear being JUDGED by you? I wouldn't tell you anything that's for sure!

83 posted on 11/02/2002 7:14:55 PM PST by kcvl
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To: sweetliberty
Most people I know here hate them. Oh sure, there are some Dems that love him, but most people can't stand them. This will backfire on Pryor, and I think that is why he was initially hesitant in attending and being seen with him. Look at it from this perspective: the only reason people have abandoned Hutchinson is because he divorced his wife for a younger woman. But now they're suddenly going to rally around BILL CLINTON, the undisputed king of extramarital affairs, and the candidate he supports??? Yeah right. Pryor runs a very big risk by doing this, and here's hoping it creates a backlash against him on election night.
84 posted on 11/02/2002 7:14:56 PM PST by VOR78
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To: churchillbuff
Jeremy Hutchinson, who is currently the youngest member of the Arkansas Legislature, was elected in March of 2000 at the age of 25. During the 2001 legislative session, he led the fight for education reform, lowering the tax burden and strengthening laws to keep violent criminals behind bars. He was awarded the "Defender of Justice Award" by the Arkansas Prosecutors Association and was named one of the "Winners of the 2001 Legislative Session" by a Donrey Media Editorial. He is an investment banker with Crews and Associates, Inc. in Little Rock. Hutchinson lives in Little Rock with his wife and two children, where he serves as a board member of the Arkansas Council on Economic Education and the Alexander Youth Services Community Advisory Board. He is also a member of the West Little Rock Civitan Club.

Seems to be doing pretty well for an abandoned kid.
85 posted on 11/02/2002 7:15:05 PM PST by KingKongCobra
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To: churchillbuff
Do you ever say the Lord's Prayer? Ever think about what it says?

"Forgive us our trespasses AS WE FORGIVE those who trespass against us."

If we truly believe that God answers our prayers and this is a prayer taught us by our Lord Himself, then we must take this to mean that if we forgive the sins of others then our sins will be forgiven but if we refuse to forgive then neither will we be forgiven.

86 posted on 11/02/2002 7:15:29 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: churchillbuff
Just as I thought. Reminds me of all the divorced men who demanded that Elian be sent back to Castro - - - getting divorced colors one's outlook on a lot of things

Your posts are ludicrous and nonsensical. This is an election for the Senate, not Sunday School. What's more, Churchill would not have much patience with you and your twisted logic. You seem to have a real anger towards men. Very self righteous twit you are.

87 posted on 11/02/2002 7:18:13 PM PST by Lauratealeaf
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To: churchillbuff
You are one angry person. I am sorry if we are being hard on you but you are soooooo wrong. I hope none of this discussion is personal--you might want to sit down and see what God wants--does he prefer that Sen Hutchinson go back to his 27 year old son and ex wife or would he prefer that we put an end to the killings of his sweet innocents. If you come up with the 27 year old son as the winner, then, you really have problems. My oh my.
88 posted on 11/02/2002 7:18:30 PM PST by olliemb
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To: KingKongCobra
That is the SAME son who doesn't think his dad did anything wrong! Maybe the son knows a little more about this than the rest of us!!! BTW, I wouldn't put all of this trashing Hutchinson past the HATE FILLED Clintons, et al.
89 posted on 11/02/2002 7:18:57 PM PST by kcvl
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To: churchillbuff
Just as I thought. Reminds me of all the divorced men who demanded that Elian be sent back to Castro - - - getting divorced colors one's outlook on a lot of things

If I were married to you, you would be just as gone.

BTW! Since you made up your mind about Hutch on so little data, and you now made up your mind about me, I'll tell you the same thing I told the Catholic church when they asked me to release her or whatever it is catholics do when a divorcee tries to re-marry into the church.

I said....."This woman tried to convince me the a blow job was not sex so she really had not broken her vows."

Sound familiar?

90 posted on 11/02/2002 7:21:58 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: VOR78
I guess I didn't realize that Pryor intended to be there tomorrow. So much the better. I think there is a good chance that it WILL backfire. The race has already tightened up since the Wellstone "memorial" campaign rally.
91 posted on 11/02/2002 7:22:09 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Hi Sweet!
93 posted on 11/02/2002 7:25:58 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: olliemb
Their name sounds reasonable, but their ideas are radical. The Council for a Livable World. This dangerous group advocates massive defense cuts even while we're at war. They oppose the Patriot Missile and new military technologies for our soldiers. Now this radical group is riding into Arkansas to support Mark Pryor, and Mark Pryor is taking their money.

$68,000 Contributions

94 posted on 11/02/2002 7:26:02 PM PST by kcvl
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To: stop_the_rats
Thanks for putting this whole thread in perspective. Just felt like having a discussion and Chruchill has filled the gap. Off to other threads--
95 posted on 11/02/2002 7:26:50 PM PST by olliemb
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To: wirestripper
"When you marry a bitch you divorce her. I wasted years of my life with one."

ROTFL! Why don't you give us your HONEST opinion? Sure wish you were gonna be there tomorrow.

96 posted on 11/02/2002 7:27:14 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: olliemb
You focus so exclusively on forgiveness, regardless of the offense, and without consequences for the offense, then I have to wonder why you're so upset about abortion? Are you saying God can't forgive in that context? I don't think that's what you're saying. However, you ARE saying that, even though there might be forgiveness after an abortion, we still ought to discourage - or even outlaw - abortion. I would say the same thing about men abandoning their families: Forgivenes is surely available, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to deter it by establishing consequences (for me, the consequence would be a vote AGAINST the lout)
97 posted on 11/02/2002 7:27:31 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: KingKongCobra
"Kinda hard to abandon a 27 year old, don't cha think?"

I was waiting to see if somebody was going to point this out.

98 posted on 11/02/2002 7:28:52 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
I wish I could my dear, but this cold wet weather is killing me. I have to double up on my meds and i really should not be going anywhere.

Wishin ya'all a good FReep!

99 posted on 11/02/2002 7:29:49 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
In 2000, Pryor served as Vice President Al Gore's campaign chairman in Arkansas. Pryor called for healing and conciliation between the parties. (HA!)

Pryor is backed by prominent centrist groups like the New Democrats Network and the Democratic Leadership Council -- an organization co-founded and formerly chaired by Bill Clinton.

Like some other Arkansas Democrats, however, Pryor has distanced himself from the former president preferring to associate himself with his father's record and legacy. When Pryor missed a fundraiser in West Memphis where Clinton was the keynote speaker, his campaign said that he was preparing for a debate against his opponent, incumbent Sen. Tim Hutchinson. Political observers said that Pryor, who they say is seeking to take advantage of Hutchinson's recent divorce and remarriage, doesn't want to associate himself with Clinton.

100 posted on 11/02/2002 7:30:02 PM PST by kcvl
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