Posted on 11/04/2002 5:23:57 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
URL please. We need a source on that statement. -- thanks.
You're sure, huh? Netenyahu was Prime Minister for a number of years, and I don't remember him trading anything for Pollard. Do you have superior knowledge, or intense hatred?
ML/NJ
The other traitors mentioned in your link should have gotten much harder sentences. All traitors should. And Pollard is an American traitor, the fact that he is ethnic Jewish and was paid by Israel makes no difference. Either you are an American and faithfully serve or you should be somewhere else. Let Pollard rot, he chose his own course. If you don't understand that, maybe you should HONESTLY join another country.
Jonathan Pollard will die in his American prison cell, no matter how many of his FReeper water-carriers hope otherwise.
Netanyahu plans in the book he is currently writing to publish several details that will considerably embarrass the president of the United States. In one of the chapters Clinton will earn the title 'International Swindler'.
And this is the story. In September '98, Yom Kippur Eve, Clinton and Netanyahu met for a conversation in the White House, during the course of which Netanyahu agreed to attend the conference at Wye Plantation with Yasser Arafat on condition that Clinton would act to immediately release the spy Jonathan Pollard. Clinton, according to Netanyahu and his closest advisors, agreed to the condition. Netanyahu explained to him that this gesture would help him to get the support from his constituents for the painful part of the agreement he expected to sign - continuation of the withdrawal from the territories. "Bibi went to Wye knowing that Clinton would immediately release Pollard with the signing of the agreement with the Palestinians," the advisors of the departing prime minister said this week.
During the course of the Wye summit the matter of Pollard was discussed several times between Clinton and Netanyahu. There were only a few in on the great secret: ministers Sharon, Mordechai and Sharansky.
At the end of the conference, at 5:00 AM, after arrangements had already been made for the signing ceremony, Clinton put his hand on Netanyahu's shoulder and asked him to step aside with him so he could tell him a few things. One of those present in the room saw Clinton and Netanyahu as they spoke from a distance. "Netanyahu turned pale, and Clinton hugged him," the man said this week.
When Netanyahu returned to the center of the room, he told his advisors and ministers that Clinton had announced to him that he could not honor his promise to release Pollard. "We were shocked," said one of them. "We thought that Bibi should go back to Clinton and tell him: 'if that is the case then there is no agreement with the Palestinians. You lied to me.' Our problem was that we did not want to find ourselves again in the terrible situation that both in Israel and the world Netanyahu would be presented as a liar, and would not talk at all about the real liar."
Foreign Minster Sharon, who was summoned to the room, was of the opinion that the agreement must not be signed. Minister Sharansky also said that the signing ceremony must be postponed. At the end, after Clinton promised to continue acting for the release of Pollard, the Israeli side folded. The signing ceremony was held with some delay, and Pollard remained in prison.
Netanyahu plans to reveal his full account in his book, in which Clinton will be presented as a scoundrel who did not intend, from the outset, to honor his part in the process that led to the Wye conference.
Using the information that Pollard supplied, it is even conceivable that the Sovs would have been able to prevent or even to countermand a Presidential order to US submarines to launch a secondary strike against the Soviet Union. I hope that he dies in jail, and that before he does, he has become quite a popular girlfriend to have among the inmates there.
Can anyone guess what the Mossad would have done to an American who'd done to Israel what Pollard did to the US?
Well, you don't have to wonder :
A Jewish immigrant of Yemeni extraction working on then-secret Israeli nuclear ambitions snapped some photos of the lab where he worked. He handed these photos off to journalists. Published in newspapers, these few well-chosen photos showed irrefutable proof to any nuclear scientist in the world with half a brain that Israeli had the bomb.
Now, Israel certainly didn't encourage this disclosure, and this disclosure was embarrassing. But actually you can make a pretty good case that de-facto exposure of the Israeli bomb did nothing to lessen her defenses (something that no one could say of Pollard's betrayal, at least insofaras US security is concerned). Some would even say that the disclosure enhanced Israeli security.
With the help of a beautiful American Jewish woman, who pretended to be an American expatriate abroad in London and feigned a romantic interest in this man, the Israelis kidnapped Israeli traitor from London.
For taking these few photos, the Israelis sentenced him to 20 years in prison.
Did they have good cause? Of course they did. But what would they have done to him if he had pulled a "Pollard"?
Good Lord, it would have been a .22 below the ear...
I know that there was some talk about a Pollard deal, but the bottom line is that it never happened. The article you quote is from 1999, three years ago. But so far there is no Netanyahu book with the promised quote. Possibly this is honor among thieves, but also possibly this is just Clinton BS to discredit someone he never liked. Let me guess.
ML/NJ
URL please. We need a source on that statement. -- thanks.
This was in the papers at the time--I would recommend a good library. It caused quite a stink in the Knesset when it came out. As for URL--well, guess what, son, not every damn fact is on the Internet.
Well, guess what, son, I think you're just blowing smoke and passing gas. We'll have to assume that you are just making all this up off the top of your head.
In 1998 the entire Knesset signed a pro-Pollard letter.
Appeasement of Iraq Made Me A SpySorry, Johnny dear.
- by Jonathan Pollard
You pulled your sh*t during the Cold War. You might have been a hero in 1991. But your ass was too wrapped up in dollar signs and political games to have anything to do with Saddam's invasion of Iraq.
F*-off for trying to blame this on us.
F*-off for blaming the nation you betrayed.
F*-off for excusing your sorry ass on someone else.
Even the liberals want the DC Sniper to die. I wish you could die a thousand times for every victim of the sniper. He betrayed fellow citizens. You betrayed a nation. You might have killed millions.
Did you just jump on the bandwagon because this POS was Jewish? Have you no capacity to imagine the damage the POS named Pollard did to the USA? Is the USA a sovereign nation or not?
I have never understood the hatred Jews claim to be their lot in life. If support of the the likes of Pollard are their idols, I begin to see a point to anti-semitism.I have been convinced of the virtue of anti-islamism since 9/11/01.
I am up for a two-fer.
Let your ancient Gods battle it out.But since both sides in this "war" have insisted the USA play, do not be shocked when the USA crushes both of your "evil" houses.
The majority of the population of the USA feels a deeper sympathy to Israel, and considers the terrorist tactics of Islamic countries to be totally without merit.
Keep pushing for Pollard's release.It shows the USA that Israel is just the flip side of the coin of Al Queda.
A pox on both of your houses.And a nuke or two would solve the whole problem.The middle eastern fanatics have made a fatal error in demanding the attention of the USA to "solve" their ancient religious problems.
Welcome to the 21st century.
We see your problem.You both demand we "cure" it.Be carefull what you wish for.....
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