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Will we pander to the 'rats now that we have the Senate?
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Posted on 11/06/2002 8:20:45 AM PST by BCR #226

We've won the Senate. Now I've got a couple of questions...

1. Does Lott become Majority leader or will there be a vote for the new leader?

2. Do you think Republicans will pander to the Democrats in the way it happened in 2000 with the "power sharing"?

I'm scared that we have this wonderful opportunity to make some wonderful changes but I see it being thrown away.

I'd also like to form a group with the intended goal of getting legislation passed that would eliminate the sporting purpose clause from the 1968 Gun Control Act (or eliminating that law all together) and possibly repealing the 1986 Machine Gun Ban (which is blatently illegal anyway).

Opinions? Ideas? want to help?

Thanks,

Mike


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1 posted on 11/06/2002 8:20:45 AM PST by BCR #226
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To: BCR #226
I'm scared

Every time I see an interview with one of the carnival side show people the Democrats call a constituent, they seem to be "scared" about something. I suggest that you are not "scared" - just anxious to kick some ass. (;>)

2 posted on 11/06/2002 8:25:40 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Stentor
There will be a vote for the new Senate leader....but LOT FIXED IT SO THERE IS A SHORT TIME FOR CONSENSUS....so he looks like a shoo in.....

Get ready for some more "power" sharing.

Make that wimp sharing

3 posted on 11/06/2002 8:31:05 AM PST by spokeshave
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To: BCR #226
There are always new votes on party leaders after an election, whether or not the control changes hands. (And indeed, there can be a new vote for leadership at any time if anyone changes his mind -- e.g., turncoats like Jeffords)
4 posted on 11/06/2002 8:34:59 AM PST by DWPittelli
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To: BCR #226; Stentor
Spent Lott has no back bone and the Constitution is just an annoyance to him. He does not uphold his oath of office and you expect him to do anything but wimp out to the Dems?? Stentor you are right on he will wimp again because as I have said before you must remember this guy started his political career as a Dumbocrat and he still plays one on T.V.

Ravenstar
5 posted on 11/06/2002 8:39:15 AM PST by Ravenstar
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To: BCR #226
We should NOT pander to the Rats and we most definately need to send a message to any spineless RINO's that they had better get on board....immediately.
6 posted on 11/06/2002 8:41:07 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: BCR #226
Sent this to Sen. Frist and the White House:

Senator Frist:

Thanks to the voters who worked hard across the country to get out the vote, the GOP has regained the Senate. Now President Bush's agenda can be moved through the Senate. But the Senate needs a strong majority leader and Senator Lott is not the man for the job. Do not let the citizens down who worked so hard for this GOP victory - give us a STRONG Senate majority leader...replace Senator Lott.

7 posted on 11/06/2002 8:45:53 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: BCR #226
Good topic. What now? We have a thin majority so expect evolutionary not revolutionary changes. Remember our cacaus has a lot of RINOs in it who will not vote for any lessening of gun control. To turn back the clock on any current laws, even the sunsetting Assault Weapons Ban will be difficult. The sniper event did not help. Here is a more realistic agenda we might expect to see:

1. Fix the judiciary committe and get some Bush judicial nominees seated. This is all a practice run for the biggest job that George will have, appointing new Supreme Court justices. Now would be a good time for Conservatives to resign from the court if they would like to see a Conservative replace him.

2. Lock in the tax cuts that he passed. Fix the ridiculous estate tax, which goes down,down, down for six years then REBOUNDS to full 1999 levels. Absurd. Cut some taxes.

3. Address the Social Security issue with some acceptable partial privitization scheme.

4. Homeland Security. Will be passed.

5. If they are smart they will go after tort reform. This would help defund the Dem's who get huge cash infusions from trial lawyers. It will cut health care costs.

6. Show trials for corporate wrong doers.

7. Presecription drug benefit. (So much for limited government from the R's)

What you won't see, in my opinion, is getting rid of gun control, defunding the left via stuff like NPR, ending welfare as we now know it: - ridiculous programs like Section 8 or "earned income tax credit".

What you won't see, sadly, is any real progress on immigration reform or closing the borders.

8 posted on 11/06/2002 8:48:25 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Elkiejg
Bravo, well done. Now Freepers I think that same message needs to be sent about 500 or 600 thousand times more.

Ravenstar
9 posted on 11/06/2002 8:48:45 AM PST by Ravenstar
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To: BCR #226
The Republicans will push through massive spending increases just like the Democrats. Always have, always will. That's why we have a $5 trillion debt (and going up), a $2 trillion annual budget (and going up), and the average child in America is looking at a lifetime federal tax rate of 82%.
10 posted on 11/06/2002 8:51:46 AM PST by yoswif
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To: BCR #226
Would the 'rats compromise with us??? No!!!

We OWN this country now. We have a golden opportunity now to change EVERYTHING THE WAY WE WANT IT. LET'S ROLL!!!!!

And no comprimises with the RINO's either. Either they're with us or against us.
11 posted on 11/06/2002 9:28:23 AM PST by kapj
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To: Elkiejg
Frist for Majority Leader.
12 posted on 11/06/2002 9:31:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: BCR #226
In a word, yes.

They will continue to be afraid of "bad press" (which is guaranteed) and want to be seen as "statesmanlike", "compassionate", and ready to "reach consensus and compromise".

In other words, they'll keep fighting by the Marquis of Queensbury Rules while the Dems continue to employ brass knuckles and broken bottles.

--Boris

13 posted on 11/06/2002 10:03:54 AM PST by boris
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To: boris
 
They will continue to be afraid of "bad press"

Republicans are averse to being branded as "mean."
No sooner had the Gingrich revolutionaries taken
their seats in the new Congress, than Bonior sent
them running for the hills with the very peccable
logic that a lowered increase in the rate of spending
is a cut in spending.  They pubbies never recovered.

14 posted on 11/06/2002 10:58:18 AM PST by gcruse
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To: Jack Black
Jack Black said: "What you won't see, in my opinion, is getting rid of gun control,..."

Some of us "broken glass Republicans" are one-issue voters until this issue is resolved to our satisfaction. This Senate win is necessary to assure a pro-gun Supreme Court. It had better have that effect.

15 posted on 11/06/2002 11:02:54 AM PST by William Tell
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To: BCR #226
As a registered Libertarian I gave up on Republicans long ago. I am still skeptical that Republicans will accomplish anything meaningfull toward freedom, even now that they have control of the senate. I share your fear/pessimism.....

However, I can see that you're serious about attacking the real issues. I don't care if it's Republicans or Libertarians fighting for freedom (or even Democrats, but I realize that that is an oxymoron) - I want offense, and no excuses for failing when the means to accomplish it are there.

Great post. I'll help in any way I can.

16 posted on 11/06/2002 11:15:47 AM PST by missileboy
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To: missileboy
When a staunch "conservative" site like FR pulls threads because they are seen as advocating what Jefferson referred to as "natural manure for the tree of liberty" I'd say the dialectic sex change operation on "conservatives" is just about complete. I expect to see a big increase in the sales of Midol now that the Republicans have a chance to demonstrate that they are different only in speed and not direction.

The gambler's fallacy is that they've been losing so long, they have to win the next time. Not only does this not work with a fair coin toss (each event being independent) it surely doesn't work with a two headed coin. The problem isn't with the elected politicians, it's with the people who demand the government function as a tool for which it is inapplicable. Until you see pro-active bill of rights enforcement, know that the game is still rigged.

17 posted on 11/06/2002 12:06:58 PM PST by LibTeeth
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To: missileboy
When a staunch "conservative" site like FR pulls threads because they are seen as advocating what Jefferson referred to as "natural manure for the tree of liberty" I'd say the dialectic sex change operation on "conservatives" is just about complete. I expect to see a big increase in the sales of Midol now that the Republicans have a chance to demonstrate that they are different only in speed and not direction.

The gambler's fallacy is that they've been losing so long, they have to win the next time. Not only does this not work with a fair coin toss (each event being independent) it surely doesn't work with a two headed coin. The problem isn't with the elected politicians, it's with the people who demand the government function as a tool for which it is inapplicable. Until you see pro-active bill of rights enforcement, know that the game is still rigged.

18 posted on 11/06/2002 12:09:59 PM PST by LibTeeth
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To: BCR #226
A couple of weeks ago Don Nickles announced that he would not oppose Lott for the leadership position, so I suppose that Lott continues on. He certainly sounded that way on Fox and Friends this AM.

Lott said that his wife commented this morning, "Well, that car you were chasing, you've caught it. Now it's time to do something with it!. Lott went on to say that he had only been majority leader under a Republican President for about 6 months before Jeffords jumped. He acted like things would change this time around.

So, keep your fingers crossed and say a prayer that he has learned some hard lessons and will be a different kind of majority leader this time.

19 posted on 11/06/2002 1:27:31 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Elkiejg
Pressure to replace Lott is a two edged sword, and both slices do the country good.

1. It might in fact succeed in replacing Lott.

2. Lott might take a hint and get tough, which is the only way to stop the pressure.
20 posted on 11/06/2002 2:08:20 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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