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Congressman Ron Paul on Homeland Security
Association of American Physicians and Surgeons ^ | November 13, 2002 | Congressman Ron Paul

Posted on 11/14/2002 10:08:12 PM PST by FormerLurker

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To: Deb
He also wants to bring home all our soldiers and open the borders. You agree?

Don't be absurd. Rep. Paul is most definitely not and open-borders type. I challenge you to prove otherwise. I can easily prove my point by linking to numerous of his speeches.

101 posted on 11/21/2002 12:51:50 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Deb
If you don't know he wants every soldier home and open borders

There you go, spouting lies again. Here are just a few samplings of his views on the borders:

From a speech on the first Homeland Security Bill:
"I also introduced four amendments to the bill itself, including those that would prohibit a national identification card, that would prohibit the secretary of this new department from moving money to other agencies and departments without Congressional oversight, that would deny student visas to nationals of Saudi Arabia, and that would deny student and diversity visas to nationals from terrorist-sponsoring countries. All of these amendments, which would have addressed some of the real issues of our security, were rejected. They were not even allowed onto the floor for a debate."

Here is another one:
"First and foremost, we must take control of our borders and prevent potential terrorists from entering the country. We also must do a better job keeping track of those individuals we do allow to enter. Visas should not serve as a revolving door that enables our worst enemies to live among us. First and foremost, we must take control of our borders and prevent potential terrorists from entering the country. We also must do a better job keeping track of those individuals we do allow to enter. Visas should not serve as a revolving door that enables our worst enemies to live among us."
I could find many, many more examples. So it looks like you are the one who does not know that which you write.
102 posted on 11/21/2002 1:04:05 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: FormerLurker; Schmedlap; GOPcapitalist; c-b 1; Deb
See my above post on Deb's lie that Ron Paul supports open borders. There is plenty more evidence in the Congressional record and in his speeches. She only knows how to smear. The real open borders proponent is President Bush. Everyone knows that.
103 posted on 11/21/2002 1:08:38 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: dread78645
Well done!!! Where you live, Victoria?
104 posted on 11/21/2002 1:11:16 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: LibertarianInExile
I can tell you Ron Paul does want open borders-

Not true. See my above post and many other of his writings and speeches. He does want to end the welfare incentive to come to this country, yes, but he still is not in favor of opening the borders. Not in the least.

105 posted on 11/21/2002 1:14:34 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
"The real open borders proponent is President Bush. Everyone knows that."

I didn't know that until you pointed it out. What does he propose?
106 posted on 11/21/2002 1:49:27 PM PST by Schmedlap
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To: Schmedlap
He has proposed and supported several amnesty bills, including a blanket amnesty he flew up the flagpole last year. He was smacked down, but several similar compromise bills have been introduced.
107 posted on 11/21/2002 1:52:26 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
That is what makes him a proponent of open borders? That sounds like a provision to grant amnesty to the millions of felons who are here, not a policy of allowing more in. I think a more accurate characterization of him would be "soft on crime", or "pro-felony", or "anti-law".
108 posted on 11/21/2002 2:25:50 PM PST by Schmedlap
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To: Zviadist
Thanks for the heads up...
109 posted on 11/21/2002 2:34:42 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: Zviadist
Where you live, Victoria?

Lago Vista, on the west side of the lake from Leningrad on the Colorado (Austin).

110 posted on 11/22/2002 12:19:39 AM PST by dread78645
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