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LAURA INGRAHAM'S WEEKLY E-BLAST - IMMIGRATION
LauraIngraham.com ^ | Nov. 18, 2002 | Laura Ingraham

Posted on 11/19/2002 9:30:47 AM PST by madfly

E-Blast
Nov. 18, 2002

By Laura Ingraham

When most people think about the "American Dream," family, hard work, God, love of country come to mind. But if "immigrant rights" groups and their supporters in Washington have their way, the dream will also include law-breaking.

With Republicans poised to take control of both house of Congress in January, a legislative quandary awaits them -- a bill called the "Dream Act," the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act. Introduced by Utah Senator Orrin Hatch earlier this year, it would make it easier for states to offer in-state tuition rates at state colleges, and also would grant students lawful residency upon graduation from high school if they had lived in the country at least five years. (They could file for a conditional green card, and thus could legally drive and work.)

Why do conservatives like Hatch, and his House colleague Rep. Chris Cannon, support a bill that would reward illegality? Colorado's Rep. Tom Tancredo, a bulldog for enforcing our immigration laws, thinks it's a combination of politics (attracting Latino votes) and money (insuring business-owners a constant source of cheap labor). Hatch insists that the undocumented students -- by some estimates as many 600,000 in our high schools-"are assimilated into American culture…and grow up to be contributors to society."

That the majority of the illegal immigrant students want to work hard and better their lives is not in question. The problem is that for each slot an illegal immigrant takes at a state college or university, it is one less spot for American students or for immigrants who have followed immigration laws and procedures. (Illegals can also apply in the category of "international admissions.") And let's not forget, our new Homeland Security Department will have enough on its hands with 8 million illegals here, along with the 300,000 subject to deportation but on the loose.

For some outlandish reason, there is no specific federal prohibition against colleges and universities enrolling illegal immigrants. However, federal law places some restrictions on allowing such students to pay in-state tuition rates, and it prohibits them from receiving federal financial aid.

The pending Hatch-Cannon legislation will be a test for Republicans, who are ever-mindful of the growing influence Hispanics have in elections coast to coast. In the 2002 mid-term elections, many Republican candidates nationwide did better than expected among Hispanic voters. New York Governor George Pataki improved his support among Hispanic voters, chiefly due to his support for legalizing some illegals in the state. Governor Jeb Bush won a majority of the Latino vote, receiving strong support from Cuban-Americans.

Fearful of reprisals at the voting booth, the GOP has largely avoided taking on such these immigration-related issues. "When it comes to immigration, the president's approach is guided by compassion and fairness," said Sharon Castillo, an RNC spokesperson.

But isn't fairness supposed to be ensured by following the rule of law? President Bush's message on everything from fighting terror to corporate corruption is grounded in respecting the laws of the land. When people who set out to thwart our legal system are rewarded with benefits that are designated for law-abiding Americans and immigrants, why should we expect any would-be immigrants to go through the hassle of following our immigration laws?

Some states such as California, New York and Texas are already dangling carrots along the border. All passed bills allowing admission and in-state tuition for illegals. Several other states are considering similar measures.

Yet if there is a national trend toward bending the rules to allow greater access to education for illegals, Virginia's Republican Attorney General Jerry Kilgore wants no part of it. To the great consternation and outrage of groups like the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund, he recently directed his state's public colleges not to enroll illegals. And get this-he also told the institutions to report illegals they discover on campus to federal authorities. (The horror!)

Kilgore is right. Since September 11th, all universities nationwide should be doing everything they can to help the INS track foreign students, not create problems by looking the other way when illegals attempt to take advantage of benefits designated for those here lawfully. Yet our federal government is on the verge of giving state universities the green light to do just that with the so-called Dream Act. It is already a nightmare for our understaffed, under-funded Border Patrol to enforce our borders, it will only get worse with the beacon of more benefits for law-breakers.

WORD OF THE DAY

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Yoga is in its present avatar, with studios popping up coast to coast.

 



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 000unknown; 300; borderpatrol; chriscannon; dreamact; foreignstudents; illegalsoncampus; immigration; ins; senatorhatch; tomtancredo; universities
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To: georgiabelle
You can then file for an extension, then pay as you please....yes you'll get whacked a bit for intrest & penalty, but the intrest you'll earn will offset it.
41 posted on 11/19/2002 12:28:36 PM PST by taxed2death
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To: WRhine
Someone from Kansas said on another thread that Brownback has become a joke in that state. Maybe when he's up for re-election his anti-American, pro Mecha, pro La Raza agenda will be brought out.
42 posted on 11/19/2002 12:29:58 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: grania
All of the talk folk are beginning to sound like anti-illegal, secure border freepers.

There's been a distinct increase in the talk-traffic about this issue within the last month. The transition was almost overnight. Like you said, someone got a serious eyeful of a ratings winner.

43 posted on 11/19/2002 12:30:37 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: buffyt; madfly
Maybe we should give up our citizenship and come back to US illegally so we can get a break on tuition. SHEESH!

I have always said that in my next lifetime I am coming back as an illegal alien so I can break laws and get all the freebies while dumb Americans pay for it.

We need a strong President that will enforce our existing laws and quotas instead of Bush.

There I go dreaming again!!

44 posted on 11/19/2002 12:32:12 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: madfly
Hatch likes to position himself as the God-fearing Mormon who brags about writing Gospel music and following God's edicts...and then the hypocrite turns out to be an ORIGINATOR of legislation like this that is thoroughly unjust, corrupt and evil...legislation that harms, penalizes and undermines law-abiding, hard-working American citizens and rewards criminals and law-breakers. This aspect of him disgusts me just as much as Bush's claim that he reads the Bible every night and Jesus Christ is his hero -- and then turns a blind eye as the country he has sworn to defend is being destroyed, Border Patrol guards are being violently murdered, and innocent Americans are being preyed upon by gouging taxes to pay for freeloading illegals, forced to see their qualities of life falling apart, and in growing instances, becoming victims of violent crimes like home invasion, robbery, rape and murder from these interlopers.

Since Hatch is a Mormon and follows the Church's instructions to store a year's worth of food (to cope with the famines that the Church prophesizes are heading for this country) -- I hope he is happy when those awful days come to pass and his children and grandchildren are forced to stand in long lines and compete with all these illegals for for their daily ration of bread and water. He can take comfort in that he had a hand in their suffering.

"God-fearing" politicians like Bush and Hatch are going to have to answer for their deeds on Judgment Day...sadly, all of us have to live in the here and now with the consequences of their corrupt actions.

45 posted on 11/19/2002 12:41:11 PM PST by hot august night
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To: georgiabelle; All
Someone just pinged me to this thread. It's very timely and might answer our questions, here. It's written very methodically and easy to understand. Give it a look.

(No Answers, No Taxes) by Robert L. Schulz, Chairman, We The People Congress

Presented at Freedom Drive 2002, The National Mall, Washington DC November 14, 2002

Acknowledgement: Bob Schulz wishes to acknowledge and thank Anthony Hargis for his fine research paper, "The Lost Right, Redress of Grievances." (undated). Bob's speech draws heavily on that research and the underlying documents.

The founding fathers, in an act of the Continental Congress in 1774, said, "If money is wanted by Rulers who have in any manner oppressed the People, [the People] may retain [their money] until their grievances are redressed, and thus peaceably procure relief, without trusting to despised petitions or disturbing the public tranquility."

This very American Right of Redress of Grievances Before Taxes is deeply embedded in our law.

The founding fathers could hardly have used words more clear when they declared, "the people . . . may retain [their money] until their grievances are [remedied]."

By these words, the founding fathers fully recognized and clearly stated: that the Right of Redress of Grievances includes the right of Redress Before payment of Taxes, that this Right of Redress Before Taxes lies in the hands of the People, that this Right is the People's non-violent, peaceful means to procuring a remedy to their grievances without having depend on -- or place their trust in -- the government's willingness to respond to the People's petitions and without having to resort to violence.

Before going further, I'd like to clarify two points: first, the question we are dealing with here is not whether the government has the power to tax, but whether the government is abusing its constitutionally limited power to tax; and second, there is the question of whether the government is using the tax revenue to effect other abuses of its authority.

The founding fathers were well acquainted with the fact that government is the enemy of Freedom, that those wielding governmental power despise petitions from the People; the representatives of the People, in a popular assembly, seem sometimes to fancy that they are the People themselves and exhibit strong symptoms of impatience and disgust at the least sign of opposition from any quarter.

The founding fathers knew that it was possible for the institutions of the Congress, the Executive and the Courts to someday begin to fail in their duty to protect the people from tyranny. They knew that unless the People had the right to withhold their money from the government their grievances might fall on deaf ears and Liberty would give way to tyranny, despotism and involuntary servitude.

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution states clearly and unambiguously, "Congress shall make NO law . . . abridging . . . the right of the people . . . to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

While some Rights are reserved with qualifications . . . (continued)

This is a real eye opener!

46 posted on 11/19/2002 12:41:45 PM PST by madfly
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To: hot august night
Excellent post.

As long as the govenment continues to keep the doors and windows wide open to our house, there will be no Home Land Security....

47 posted on 11/19/2002 12:43:42 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
If you have time, check out some Latino news Headlines from various dates

http://www.radiobilingue.org/noticierotoday-prevjune2001.htm

http://www.radiobilingue.org/noticierotoday.htm

http://www.radiobilingue.org/noticierotoday-prevoct2002.htm

http://www.radiobilingue.org/noticierotoday-prevnov2002.htm

48 posted on 11/19/2002 12:46:36 PM PST by madfly
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To: 3AngelaD
Yea, but I still say we have to hold that COMPLETE SELLOUT GWB's ass to the fire.

There's no amout of head-bobbing, smirks and butchering of the English language he can come out with to cover up the fact that he's completely turning a blind eye to this problem.

He's the big guy.

He's the Mayor MCcheese.

He's walking point.

He's obviously more concerned about the hispanic vote, rather than what's good in the long run, for our country.

I can't figure out a better way to run this country into the ground and turn a democratic republic into a third world swill-hole socialists dream, than to continue on down this path.

GWB is a "globalist" in the worst sense of the word, through and through.

I did vote for this guy, but never again. His inaction on this matter is simply unacceptable, un-patriotic, and un-American.

It pisses me off to no end how he sucks up to that socialist despot Vincente Fox.

It's just not right to roll out the red carpet to illegals and continually slap LEGAL Americans citizens in the face.

What sense does it make to SINK the one lifeboat this world has.

Am I against immigration? Hell no.

Legal immigrants have made this nation what it is. But this wholesale avoidance of a problem so severe as this begs some consideration.

If Bush passes Amnesty, he should be booted out of office for dereliction of duty. He's dangerously close to becoming a UN lackey regarding this invasion.....er...immigration policy.
49 posted on 11/19/2002 12:49:52 PM PST by taxed2death
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To: madfly
by some estimates as many 600,000 in our high schools-

I doubt if many of these students are alone here in the US. They probably live with at least 1 illegal parent. Maybe there are are 2 illegal parents, maybe 1 or more illegal siblings and maybe illegal relatives. What does Hatch propose to do about them?

If the student gets in-statue tuition breaks and lawful residency upon graduation, what happens to these relatives? I doubt if Hatch is for deporting them, even though they probably are illegal and are not the ones graduating from high school. In effect this will be an amnesty for anyone who has a kid in school, because of course, "you cannot split up the family".

50 posted on 11/19/2002 12:54:36 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: madfly
Thanks for that, I try and keep up on Hispanic news. I've bookmarked several Latino websites where sometimes you'll see information the mainstream press won't tell us...ie benefits and amnesties for illegal aliens that are quietly being offered or extended.

Before going to them though I always try and have an empty stomach.

51 posted on 11/19/2002 12:55:07 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: WRhine
Brownback is up in '04. I would like to see a Republican try to take him out in the primary based on his immigration record. I think it could be done. Hatch isn't up again until '06. No way to beat him in Utah, unless he is caught up in a scandal and he is one of the least scandalous people in the Senate. I would guess that his weak spot might be his vanity, which has him writing songs for country western singers, etc, and pretending to be an outsider, when is as thick as thieves with Senator Kennedy, the Swimming Senator from from Massachusetts.
52 posted on 11/19/2002 1:14:07 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: madfly
Why do conservatives like Hatch, and his House colleague Rep. Chris Cannon, support a bill that would reward illegality?

That is THE POINT. It is precisely this kind of gross appeasement that acts as a Magnet for MORE Illegal Immigration. The folks South of the Border know what is going on. When they hear that many states in America, backed by our Federal Government, are allowing Illegal Aliens In-State Tuition Breaks and a fast track to American Citizenship they naturally respond with their feet just like they do with our Amnesties and other give aways.

At a time when America is being invaded by thousands of Illegal Aliens every day and rogue Muslim Terrorist Groups are desperately trying to infiltrate our country so they can visit more Horrors like 9/11 on America we have so-called Conservatives like Hatch that are creating YET MORE incentives for foreign nationals to break our laws, destroy our sovereignty and degrade our national security. This is just absolutely Mind Boggling.

53 posted on 11/19/2002 1:27:28 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Someone from Kansas said on another thread that Brownback has become a joke in that state. Maybe when he's up for re-election his anti-American, pro Mecha, pro La Raza agenda will be brought out.

It's interesting how these "Jokes" rise to top in the GOP.

54 posted on 11/19/2002 1:29:13 PM PST by WRhine
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To: 3AngelaD
Brownback is up in '04. I would like to see a Republican try to take him out in the primary based on his immigration record.

Thanks for the info. Yes, let's hope this guy sees some serious competition in the next primary.

55 posted on 11/19/2002 1:31:44 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
Jorge Boosh is destined to become a one term president unless he gets head out of his a$$ and starts acting like the American President, not the co-president of USA-Mexico. Right now he is not upholding his Oath-of-Office and he doesn't deserve to be re-elected.
56 posted on 11/19/2002 1:33:11 PM PST by jsraggmann
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To: jsraggmann
Couldn't agree more.
57 posted on 11/19/2002 1:35:10 PM PST by WRhine
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To: madfly
As someone who has just been told I'll have to spend an extra $1000 to extend my H1B visa for another year this just makes me feel great.
58 posted on 11/19/2002 2:25:30 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Thud
Another Jacksonian flaming datum ping!
59 posted on 11/19/2002 4:00:24 PM PST by Dark Wing
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To: madfly
Amazing 59 replys on this same topic that was rode into the dust last night and still none of the "Bush at any cost" bunch here to chastise those of you who dain to question anything the WH or GOP does. Bet that won't last long.
60 posted on 11/19/2002 4:33:54 PM PST by ImpBill
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