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Freeper Gets Bill From Planned Parenthood for $77,000!!!
This came in the U.S. Mail
| November 27, 2002
| Saundra Duffy
Posted on 11/27/2002 2:04:01 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
How would you like to go to your mail box and receive a legal document that says you owe Planned Parenthood $77,000? As some of you may recall, three of us plaintiffs sued Planned Parenthood with the hope we could force them to tell the truth about the link between abortion and breast cancer. Go to www.AbortionBreastCancer.com for more info about the ABC Link. The press release announcing the lawsuit is below. Legal expertise for our case was provided by Thomas More Law Center, Ann Arbor, Michigan. The first round was lost by us and the Judge ordered us three poor women to pay PP legal fees, hence this disgusting "bill" from Planned Parenthood. Good news is that our attorneys are appealing. That's where we are now. Here's the news release about the lawsuit:
Women's Group Lauds Abortion-Breast Cancer Suit Against Planned Parenthood August 17, 2001
The Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer announced that a lawsuit was filed yesterday in a San Diego court by three California women against Planned Parenthood Federation of America and its affiliate, Planned Parenthood of San Diego and Riverside Counties. The suit accuses Planned Parenthood of having mislead women about the safety of abortion. Research published over nearly a half of a century has linked the procedure with increased breast cancer risk. The incidence of breast cancer among American women has climbed 40% in the last quarter of a century since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion. The incidence of all other cancers has declined in the U.S. over the same period.
The plaintiffs, Agnes Bernardo of Chula Vista, Pamela Colip of Loma Linda, and Sandra Duffy-Hawkins of Sacramento, are not demanding monetary damages, but they are demanding Planned Parenthood to provide women with accurate information about the overwhelming evidence that abortion raises breast cancer risk. The plaintiffs are represented by the Thomas More Law Center located in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
A 1996 review and meta-analysis of the studies found that induced abortion raises a womans breast cancer risk by 30%. The leading author of that paper written in collaboration with scientists from Penn State College of Medicine, Professor Joel Brind of Baruch College of the City University of New York, has written extensively about an ongoing effort by scientists to cover-up the research. [Brind et al. (1996) J Epidemiol Community Health 50:481-96]
In the only study specifically commissioned by the National Cancer Institute, Dr. Janet Daling and her colleagues at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center reported that Among women who had been pregnant at least once, the risk of breast cancer in those who had experienced an induced abortion was 50% higher than among other women. [Daling et al. (1994) J Natl Cancer Inst 86:1584-92]
The only statistically significant prospective study (one based on medical records, not interviews and which, therefore, rules out any possibility of recall bias) was conducted in New York and found a 90% increased risk. [Howe et al. (1989) Int J Epidemiol 18:300-4]
The Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer provides a wealth of information about the research, public policy and womens legal rights at www.abortionbreastcancer.com.
Karen Malec, president of the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer, reported that Twenty-eight out of 37 studies published since 1957 have associated this elective surgical procedure with breast cancer. We applaud the efforts of the Thomas More Law Center to assist women. Women have a right to make fully informed decisions concerning their own health. If a women are denied crucial information about the risks of a procedure, can it really be said that a choice ever belonged to them? Accurate information about the research has been censored by Planned Parenthood and its supporters since abortion was legalized in the U.S. nearly three decades ago. It was censored by the same people who ardently professed that they cared about womens health. Planned Parenthoods greed will cost women their lives and devastate families. This is a travesty of justice.
The Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer is an international womens organization founded to protect the health and save the lives of women by educating and providing information on abortion as a risk factor for breast cancer.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: abclink; abortion; breastcancer; plannedparenthood
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To: Notwithstanding; nickcarraway
Pingeroo
To: Saundra Duffy
Something good actually comes out of Ann Arbor!
Good luck.
To: Saundra Duffy
Well done, and good luck. I don't believe such a stupid ruling could be upheld.
To: Saundra Duffy
Well, I whined that my electric bill was too high.
You are fighting the good fight. God bless you.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:16:01 PM PST
by
Skooz
To: Saundra Duffy
Just thinking...but go read the thread about smoking and lung cancer. Those folks think smoking is safe with statistics that are much more convincing than this. Just goes to show some folks use statistics the way a drunk uses a lamp post...
Good work, though, and God Bless.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:19:17 PM PST
by
wastoute
To: Saundra Duffy
Here's my two cents worth of advice: don't pay it.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:21:23 PM PST
by
lonestar
To: Saundra Duffy
$77,000
ow
hang in there
To: Skooz
Well, I whined that my electric bill was too high.Well, that, too.
To: Saundra Duffy; Catspaw
Using the words "legal expertise" and "Thomas More Law Center" in the same sentence is truly misleading.
To: Always Right
I don't believe such a stupid ruling could be upheld.I sure hope you're right, pal.
To: lonestar
Here's my two cents worth of advice: don't pay it.I don't intend to. Actually, I'm lucky cuz I'm poor. No property. However, the other two ladies have homes. Anyway, I think in the end we're not gonna have to pay PP one red cent. For victory & freedom!!!
To: Saundra Duffy
Ouch! Keep us informed about your appeal.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:25:47 PM PST
by
gitmo
To: Chancellor Palpatine
>>>Using the words "legal expertise" and "Thomas More Law Center" in the same sentence is truly misleading.
On the other hand using the term "anti-Catholic bigot" in the same sentence as "Chancellor Palpatine" is not.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:26:36 PM PST
by
patent
To: Saundra Duffy
Where can we send donations for your cause?
15
posted on
11/27/2002 2:27:28 PM PST
by
Sparta
To: Saundra Duffy
This is outrageous! Good luck to you, prayers coming your way.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:27:47 PM PST
by
Jean S
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Using the words "legal expertise" and "Thomas More Law Center" in the same sentence is truly misleading.Now, now. They have had some great successes. Go to www.ThomasMore.org for more information. They're great people. For victory & freedom!!!
To: Saundra Duffy
Since "loser pays" is not part of the US legal system, you had to have a really lousy case--or a really inept advocate.
Which one do you think it is?
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:28:34 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: Saundra Duffy
You go Saundra!!! I thought my cell phone phone bill was high from the Klamath/Sawgrass Rebellion Convoy was high - well shut my mouth!
Thank you for standing up and being counted. While your at it - jack slap those clowns for giving you a run for the money.
To: Sparta
Where can we send donations for your cause?I think Thomas More was putting together a video to raise money for this purpose. I don't have any more information. Thanks for asking, though, FReeper pal. For victory & freedom!!!
To: Saundra Duffy
You will prevail. Go for bucks though. As a practitioner I find that cases in my professon that win dollars are widely disseminated and respected. Going to court to make a point, on the other hand, is not important to end users of any rulings. That has been my experience...
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:32:06 PM PST
by
mlmr
To: Saundra Duffy
Hope you hid your assets under a corporate umbrella.
To: Saundra Duffy
Bump for later reading.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:35:35 PM PST
by
Eaker
To: Saundra Duffy
IF you do lose, I'm sure that Freepers could pitch in and make it painless:
I.E. 10,000 freepers each contribute $7.70 or
.....100,000 freepers each contribute 77 cents?
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:37:03 PM PST
by
ronjon
To: Poohbah
There are a number of types of actions where it is loser pays. In federal court, it depends on what type of claim for relief you are pursuing. For instance, in federal court, if you sue someone on a copyright claim for relief, the loser pays. If you are in state court, it depends on what state court and what type of cause of action you have brought on. It may very well be that in Michigan, they have a loser pays statute for the type of action that Saundra brought on.
To: Saundra Duffy
Bump
To: mlmr
Go for bucks though. That would be nice. Why do I invariably find myself in a situation where I'm VOLUNTEERING my time and talent and end up getting crapped on? Huh! WHY??????
To: John Lenin
Hope you hid your assets under a corporate umbrella.I don't have any assets. That's the good news.
To: Saundra Duffy
Well, that's kinda what happened to Jesus Christ.
I note how many people here have said God Bless you.
To: Poohbah; Saundra Duffy; patent
"Since "loser pays" is not part of the US legal system, you had to have a really lousy case--or a really inept advocate.
Which one do you think it is?"
You must not be familiar with the American legal system. There is a third choice...an extremely biased judge. How else could you explain forced busing, Roe v Wade, or the recent New Jersey decision to allow Lautenberg on the ballot?
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:45:12 PM PST
by
Diago
To: Diago
There are some things a judge does not do at the trial level--and frivolous fining is one of them.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:46:40 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: Saundra Duffy
That would be nice. Why do I invariably find myself in a situation where I'm VOLUNTEERING my time and talent and end up getting crapped on? Huh! WHY?????? I dunno - maybe because you live in a world which you have divided up into a set of rigid ideologies with fanatic devotion, and are easily misled by incompetent activists.
To: Saundra Duffy
Liberals receive bills every day, they just don't pay them. Time to become a financial liberal.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:49:37 PM PST
by
blackdog
To: ronjon
I won't hear of it, FReeper pal. We're not going to have to give any money to Planned Parenthood. Everything will be fine. Don't you worry your pretty little head. Have a great Thanksgiving. I'm not gonna worry about it. I'm heading to Reno to have Thanksgiving with my Dad. God bless you. For victory & freedom!!!
To: Diago; Saundra Duffy
Diago, you failed to cite the very real possibility that the case came before a liberal/leftist judge.
Saundra, are you aware of the much higher than average cancer of breast and cervix for women in Marin county ... higher than normal abortion rate there also.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:51:55 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
To: Diago
Ask Saundra the basis of the suit, what her standing was to become a plaintiff, and whether she or the others ever had an abortion or were ever interested in obtaining one.
To: Chancellor Palpatine
I dunno - maybe because you live in a world which you have divided up into a set of rigid ideologies with fanatic devotion, and are easily misled by incompetent activists.I see I made a mistake by making that dumb statement in the first place. I take it back!
To: MHGinTN
Saundra, are you aware of the much higher than average cancer of breast and cervix for women in Marin county ... higher than normal abortion rate there also.Now it's funny that you mentioned this. Yes, I read about this. Some people were going around Marin County taking some kind of survey trying to figure out why there's a high incidence of breast cancer BUT THEY WERE NOT ASKING THE CRUCIAL QUESTION ABOUT ABORTION!!! I wrote to Karen Malek about it and sent her the newspaper article. Thanks for bringing this up. For victory & freedom!!!
To: Saundra Duffy
Why do I invariably find myself in a situation where I'm VOLUNTEERING my time and talent and end up getting crapped on? Huh! WHY?????? You were a very bad person in a past life? ;^)
Seriously there is a reason why we are told "Be not weary of well doing" This is apparently the way things are set up so that we keep on doing the right thing because it is the right thing and not for some future earthly reward.
No it is not fair. It is not even just. But that is the way it goes. Could be worse, you could have healed a crippled and been stoned for your trouble.
If it turns out that you do have to pay the bill be sure to post about it. I am sure we can pass the hat.

a.cricket
To: Chancellor Palpatine
dunno - maybe because you live in a world which you have divided up into a set of rigid ideologies with fanatic devotion, and are easily misled by incompetent activists. Wow. You're really a card-carrying, ankle-biting, spittle-flecked, wild-eyed, lifetime-membership jerk, aren't you?
Dan
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:56:46 PM PST
by
BibChr
To: Diago
Our case began as a consumer rights' case but somehow or other Planned Parenthood was successful in turning it all around and making it about abortion. PP's lawyers are the best money can buy. Don't get me wrong. Our lawyers are good, too. It ain't over until the fat lady sings. For victory & freedom!!!
To: MHGinTN
I first quoted someone else in my post. My response to that post was:
"You must not be familiar with the American legal system. There is a third choice...an extremely biased judge. How else could you explain forced busing, Roe v Wade, or the recent New Jersey decision to allow Lautenberg on the ballot?"
I am quite sure the judge in this case was some wacky liberal. I hope the prospects for appeal are better.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:57:38 PM PST
by
Diago
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Ask Saundra the basis of the suit, what her standing was to become a plaintiff, and whether she or the others ever had an abortion or were ever interested in obtaining one.My Mother died of cancer and I have had two bouts with cancer. I honestly want to protect women. I have not had an abortion. The other two plaintiffs had abortions but do not have breast cancer (thank God!). Planned Parenthood just had a field day with us. And the media piled on. However, it's not over yet. For victory & freedom!!!
To: Diago
I was reading too fast. Sorry Diago.
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posted on
11/27/2002 2:59:56 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
To: ronjon
I'll put in my 7.70 and 15.40 for the two babies I didn't abort!!!!
To: another cricket
Could be worse, you could have healed a crippled and been stoned for your trouble. LOL! Wait a minute - that happened at the last freep. For victory & freedom!!!
To: Saundra Duffy
pocket change!
we love ya...
Ashland, Missouri
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posted on
11/27/2002 3:04:13 PM PST
by
rface
To: Saundra Duffy; anniegetyourgun
"PP's lawyers are the best money can buy."
It is good to see our tax dollars being put to good use:( The Republican controlled Congress better kick these bastards off welfare ASAP! I am quite sick of underwriting the butchery of Planned Parenthood.
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posted on
11/27/2002 3:05:03 PM PST
by
Diago
To: BibChr
I might be a jerk, but it doesn't make me wrong.
Peace out.
To: netmilsmom
I'll put in my 7.70 and 15.40 for the two babies I didn't abort!!!!Stop it, you guys. You're makin' me cry. One of the lawyers at Thomas More told me they were putting together some sort of video to raise money in case we lose. I haven't heard anything recently but I think it's in the works. Stop worrying and have a nice Thanksgiving. Anyway, they can't get blood out of a turnip and I'm a turnip if ever there was one. The other two ladies have homes but I don't think it's going to come to that. For victory & freedom!!!
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