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FBI had warning of attack on a civilian aircraft
TIMESONLINE ^ | November 29, 2002 | Ben Webster

Posted on 11/28/2002 7:05:46 PM PST by Conservative independent

AIRLINES were urged last night to consider installing anti-missile defence systems after the terrorist attempt to bring down an Israeli plane in Kenya.

The FBI gave a warning six months ago that civilian aircraft could be targeted by al-Qaeda terrorists firing missiles from the ground. Airlines noted the warning but few took any action because installing a basic anti-missile system would cost £2 million per aircraft.

Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel’s Foreign Minister, said: “Today, they’re firing the missiles at Israeli planes, tomorrow they’ll fire missiles at American planes, British planes, every country’s aircraft. Therefore, there can be no compromise with terror.”

The attack was launched from a vehicle parked about a mile from Mombasa airport.

Rafi Marek, the captain of the Arkia Boeing 757, said that he felt a slight bump shortly after take-off and saw two “white stripes” approaching the rear of the aircraft. They passed close by before disappearing.

Aircraft are most vulnerable to attack from shoulder-held missiles when they have just taken off or are coming in to land. The Sam-7, the missile fired yesterday, has a maximum range of three miles.

The Arkia jet was well within range and the passengers had a lucky escape. Of 42 shoulder-held missile attacks recorded around the world on civilian aircraft, 29 have hit the target.

In Sri Lanka, 100 soldiers travelling on civilian charter aircraft were killed in two attacks in 1995, and 52 people died when Afghan guerrillas shot down a Bakhtar Afghan Airlines aircraft in 1985.

Only El Al, Israel’s national airline, is believed to have installed missile defence systems. These systems sense an approaching missile and deploy a false signal, usually a flare, to divert it. Heat-seeking missiles, such as the Sam-7, are drawn to the flare and explode harmlessly beyond the plane.

Civilian airliners are harder to hit than military jets, despite being much larger, because they emit far less heat.

It was an attack on a US military jet at Dhahran in Saudi Arabia this year that prompted the FBI to issue its bulletin on the threat to civilian aircraft. It stated: “Given al-Qaeda’s demonstrated objective to target the US airline industry, its access to US and Russian-made Man-Portable Air Defence Systems (Manpads), and recent apparent targeting of US-led forces in Saudi Arabia, law enforcement agencies in the US should remain alert to the potential use of Manpads against US aircraft.”

The Federal Aviation Administration has also considered the feasibilty of equipping the US civilian fleet with missile protection, but it concluded in 1999 that: “Since there have been no confirmed incidents in the US it is difficult to convince aircraft manufacturers and airlines of the potential cost benefits of making their aircraft less susceptible and less vulnerable to Manpads through the implementation of warning systems.”

Philip Baum, the editor of Aviation Security International magazine, said that a £2 million defence system would add only 1.5 per cent to the £130 million cost of a new Boeing 747. “With every terrorist incident we tend to assume further attacks will be of a similar nature,” he said. “After September 11, all the focus went on suicide hijackers getting into the cockpits. The response was to fit reinforced cockpit doors.

“But the new threat could be coming from a different direction. We need to look not only at the intent of a terrorist organisation but what it is capable of doing in the future.”

David Learmount, safety editor of Flight International magazine, said that the aviation industry had been aware for decades that airliners were vulnerable to this kind of attack. “The question is why people haven’t done it more often.”

But he cautioned against calls for airlines to be forced to pay for expensive military protection systems. “There are many other safety systems queueing up to be installed on planes which would save many more lives,” he said.

A British Airways source said: “We would never say never to this type of equipment but our view at the moment is that it belongs in the realm of highly sophisticated military fighter planes.”

BA would have to spend half its £1.4 billion cash reserves to install the device on each of its 350 aircraft.

A Department for Transport source said: “Technically it is feasible to fit these devices, but it would be extremely expensive and would not protect against all types of missile. We believe the best protection is good intelligence and security around airport perimeters.”


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No mention about TWA Flight 800.
1 posted on 11/28/2002 7:05:46 PM PST by Conservative independent
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To: Conservative independent
Flight 800?

Nothing to see here. Move along.

2 posted on 11/28/2002 7:12:26 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Conservative independent
Why would the pilot feel a bump and then see the smoke trails? I wonder if they have some type of anti-missile techonology deployed in Israeli civilian aircraft?
3 posted on 11/28/2002 7:29:08 PM PST by twntaipan
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To: Conservative independent
That was a accidental center-line fuel tank explosion. The NTSB and CNN said so.
4 posted on 11/28/2002 7:29:52 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Conservative independent
If I were running this show, there would be well-patrolled security zones on the approach and departure routes of all major American airports, out to at least 1 mile. Also, I would immediately eliminate all noise-abatement procedures, and have passenger aircraft get above 10,000 feet as quickly as they possibly could climb out (and descend very rapidly for landing).

These "military" take-offs and landings would be a little disconcerting for the passengers, who have been coddled for years with "gentle" ascents and descents- but it might well save a LOT of lives.

This is NOT going to happen, because the people in charge of commercial aviation are frigging morons.

5 posted on 11/28/2002 7:33:26 PM PST by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: twntaipan
If El Al has countermeasures, maybe this charter company has them too; in which case the bump could have been an automated flare release?
6 posted on 11/28/2002 7:40:32 PM PST by Blunderfromdownunder
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
If El Al has countermeasures, maybe this charter company has them too;

Where do you get that El Al has countermeasures?

Flares and commercial airports do not mix.

7 posted on 11/28/2002 7:51:55 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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Gee, I wonder if you could extend the effective range of a "stinger" or similar missle by strapping it to the side of a small private plane flying at 5,000 feet.
They are, after all recoil-less type weapons.
All of a sudden, flight 800 is not out of range anymore, now is it?
And oh, by the way, an explosive that was detonated by a "proximity fuse" would leave no residual traces on the target.
The target would be destroyed by the concusion or "shock" wave.
h-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m - am I the ONLY one to think of this?
8 posted on 11/28/2002 8:02:28 PM PST by error99
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Oh, my husband would *love* it. Gone are the days of excitement in the cockpit...you know...during the Clinton days of military neglect; Sections of canopy, wing, the airframe would sort of fall off. Lights, bells, whistles...Anything non-routine is thrilling to him today.

People in the United States post 9-11 need to sit back, and stay there. Americans need to be thankful for those on the front lines, and in the "terror" zones, and understand that they too, need to sacrifice. So, what's a little noise if it means planes could be safer in the sky?
9 posted on 11/28/2002 8:09:39 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: error99
That kind of system needs to have a radar control of some sort, and that would mean backing from some high level government most likely. You need someone to install the radar or guidance system first, which means re-wiring the plane, then you need a launch system, then you need to be in the taret area without the airport shutting down the takeoffs of all aircraft because you are too close to the runways in your flight vector.

Firing it from inside an aircraft from a shoulder launch system, means you still have to be in a 2 mile launch range, way too close for any air traffic control system to allow a takeoff with you near the pattern.

Plus the smoke inside the aircraft, the flame out the rea of the missile would be too dangerous.

10 posted on 11/28/2002 8:09:51 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Nogbad
bump
11 posted on 11/28/2002 8:11:34 PM PST by Nogbad
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To: error99
Did you or anyone else catch Shep this afternoon during his reporting of this? He was talking to someone on air, and made a comment like, "any closer, and this could have been another TWA flight 800."

I was *very* proud of you Shep!!!!
12 posted on 11/28/2002 8:12:50 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: Conservative independent
Aircraft are most vulnerable to attack from shoulder-held missiles when they have just taken off or are coming in to land

The strip searches at the airport won't do the passengers of an airliner much good when a terrorist fires a shoulder-launched missile at the plane just taking off.

13 posted on 11/28/2002 8:23:24 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Doe Eyes
It says so in this article.
14 posted on 11/28/2002 8:23:37 PM PST by twntaipan
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To: Doe Eyes
Flares and commercial airports do not mix.

You got that right. Those things burn like hades!

15 posted on 11/28/2002 8:24:37 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: twntaipan
I'm sure they do have anti-missile technology among other hi-tech gizmos, how was the pilot able to see two white stripes approaching the REAR of the aircraft, anyway??
16 posted on 11/28/2002 8:28:29 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Food for thought.
17 posted on 11/28/2002 8:33:03 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The NTSB and CNN said so.

And we know how trustworthy those two sources are.
18 posted on 11/28/2002 8:39:23 PM PST by Sparta
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To: RaceBannon
What sets off a "proximity fuse"... magnetics???
19 posted on 11/28/2002 8:40:22 PM PST by error99
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To: All
A report I just heard tonight said the missiles
used in the Kenya attack
were not heat seeking missiles.
Can anyone confirm this?
20 posted on 11/28/2002 8:54:53 PM PST by Nogbad
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