Sen. Clinton asks shoulder-fired missile defense

CNN ^ | Tuesday, December 3, 2002 | Phil Hirschkorn

[Libloather]

"Just as we saw National Guards on the inside of our airports, we may need to see them on the outside at least to serve as a deterrent."

Another reason to never give her the Commander-in-Chief position...

[Mo1]

She should log onto FR

I hope she would .. I have other choice words that I would say to her

Hey Hillary .. Remember Madison Square Garden .. Remember 20,000+ people .. Remember BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Go Home!!!

[LandofLincoln]

I'll bet the people on flight 800 wish she called for this a long time ago

[freeperfromnj]

This, coming from the woman whose husband pardoned terrorists, ignored flight 800 eyewitness testimony and refused the Sudan's offer to give up Bin Laden. And we're supposed to take her seriously? LOL

[johnny7]

Another reason to never give her the Commander-in-Chief position...

She wants it bad and wants it in 2004.

She is in the forefront of the attack on the Presidents defense policies.

Daschle, Gore and Kerry are behind her also.

[Dog Gone]

There is no effective defense for this type of attack. Kerry's suggestion of perimeter defense is flat out stupid. Planes take off and land over population centers and we can't clear a three-mile radius around airports.

A small boat off the coast of Los Angeles is in easy range of the planes taking off and landing there. San Francisco is no safer, nor are several other major airports from that sort of attack.

Even flares and chaff are only of limited effectiveness when the airline is moving so slowly. There simply is no way to protect all the soft targets in this country and around the world. Even if we devised a way to protect airlines, terrorists would simply move on to other targets that are just as easy to destroy.

We have thousands of miles of unprotected railroad lines and cruise ships have no defense against a Cole-style attack. Our refineries sit behind a chainlink fence next to major highways.

If we could defend against terrorism, there would be far less need to defeat it.

[Terridan]

Thank you for your response! Any "respectable" pilot knows about this Klintonesque sham... I pray for the day the "hold" cards are played...
Best wishes... Terri

[Mudboy Slim]

"Another reason to never give her the Commander-in-Chief position..."

LOL...as if we needed another excuse...the ugly scumbag B!+C# was PRO-Cop-Killers while Editor of the Yale Review, fer Heaven's Sake...Hillary'll Rot in Hell!!

Quite Sincerely...MUD

[Asmodeus]

Most assumed that initially too, including James Kallstrom, because of the initial reports of a fiery streak followed immediately by a huge fireball. However, Kallstrom, having convinced himself at the outset that TWA 800 was the victim of a missile shootdown, sat on a report for months that a U.S. satellite detected that Massive Fireball explosion about a mile above the surface, NOT at 13,800 feet where the Initial Event took place at 8:31:12. In short, the fiery events observed by the witnesses took place much later and much lower in the sky than initially assumed.

The timeline and altitudes of the major events of the TWA 800 disaster was approximately as follows:

8:31:11 Intact and climbing 747 approaches 13,800 feet.

8:31:12 Initiating Event at 13,800 feet followed immediately by the commencement of the decapitation process.

8:31:43-8:31:47 Streak of light appears.

8:31:47 Explosion of Massive Fireball at 5500-7500 feet.

8:31:55-8:31:57 Splashdown of the Massive Fireball flames.
Source - The "missile Witnesses" Myth.

Svp pardon mon Français. Cliquetez ici.

Additionally, TEN expert metallurgists who examined the TWA 800 wreckage reported finding no evidence that the 747 was the victim of a missile - or bomb - attack. One of them was the FBI's own Chief Forensic Metallurgist, William Tobin, but Kallstrom refused to believe him, having had his own neck bowed from the outset that the 747 was the victim of a missile shootdown.

Memorandum
To: Thomas H. Jourdan
From: William A. Tobin
Date: 07-15-97
Subject: Metallurgical Status Report: TWA 800

The last FBI metallurgical examinations or evaluations conducted of any significance, relating to damaged TWA 800 components, were in approximately October 1996.

As directed by you, on January 1, 1997, I elicited a commitment for the services of a retired research scientist and metallographic laboratory specializing in the aluminum alloys primarily comprising the Boeing 747-100.

Since May 1997, the scientist has been researching the location, morphology, and formation fracture mechanics of small holes with "spike tooth" fractures, the only metallurgically significant indicator present at a high strain rate. However, the holes are relatively small (none of which could reasonably have been responsible for "instantaneous" cessation of the recorders), exhibit no apparent preferred concentration, exhibit no apparent isotrophy, and are in matrices which exhibit no characteristics of impulsive loading or proximity to explosive (ordnance) materials.

The scientist has observed no indication of bomb or missile damage, and brings to ten the number of metallurgists officially examining and pronouncing the absence of bomb or missile damage, four from NTSB, three from Boeing, two from FBI Laboratory, and one scientist consultant.

It is noted that three of the aforementioned metallurgists could be considered to have a strong organizational interest in the finding that something other than mechanical failure initiated the catastrophic sequence of events.
Source.

[Stand Watch Listen]

What's she want?
Chaff and flares?

Only if the plane is flying over Chappaqua and/or Embassy Row... ;-)

[RooRoobird14]

Ah yes, another transparent grab for CNN air time by Queen of the Damned (who apparently is already writing her inauguration speech for January 20, 2009). (major league eye-rolling......)

[RightWhale]

Sen. Clinton is in a position to vote on funding this new level of protection. $2 million per airplane times how many airplanes = $$$$$

[MHGinTN]

... a U.S. satellite detected that Massive Fireball explosion about a mile above the surface, NOT at 13,800 feet where the Initial Event took place at 8:31:12. In short, the fiery events observed by the witnesses took place much later and much lower in the sky than initially assumed. So, to the witnesses who saw a striking upward prior to the massive explosion later, to believe your lyin' eyes or not! What you posted and I copied above appears to confirm that a missle brought the plane to the ~5800 foot elevation, before the catastrophic explosion ripped the plane apart.

[MHGinTN]

Cogent analysis, Dog! That's why we go to them (here and abroad) and use every means at our formidible disposal to annihilate the leadership and any goons we uncover.

[Senator_Blutarski]

Wouldn't you be concerned about heat seeking missiles if you were as full of hot air as Hillary is?

That would be a real concern if they were Hip-fired missiles.

[leadpenny]

I'm sorry if I am restating what anyone else might of said but is this what made this woman one of the country's top 100. DUH, Hillary! Talk about jumping on the bandwagon. But then you are noted for getting in front of a camera or two. If I remember, even before you put your large behind into a senate seat you were jumping on the let's-get-rid-of-the-electoral-college bandwagon too. What a phoney hag.

[RightWhale]

jumping on the bandwagon

Any passing bandwagon and not even ask where it's going.

[leadpenny]

I wanna see her run. I think I'll be disappointed if she doesn't run. rrrrrr

[RightWhale]

It's Algore anyway. These others are just looking to burn a few campaign dollars.

[MHGinTN]

I hope the democrats spend billions and fail. It limits their funds for the next try. Look how much Mac Awful spent in Fla. to no avail! Perhaps their supporting businessmen will eventually realize it ain't too smart constantly backing loserman and loserwoman.