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British Government To Give Free Heroin To Addicts (Good idea for USA?)
CNS News ^ | December 04, 2002 | Mike Wendling

Posted on 12/06/2002 9:04:26 AM PST by Pliney the younger

Excerpts:London (CNSNews.com) - Heroin addicts throughout England will be given the drug free through the state-run health service as part of a new government drugs strategy, officials said.

About 400 heroin addicts already legally obtain heroin through the National Health Service, but the new plan, announced Tuesday, will introduce prescription programs across England and Wales.

Under the scheme, users will be given clean needles and will be able to shoot up in medically supervised areas.

"There will be an increase in the number of heroin users being prescribed the drug, and in the number of licensed general practitioners (able to dispense the drug)," a Home Office spokesman said.

(Excerpt) Read more at conservativenews.org ...


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KEYWORDS: addiction; bums; heroine; homeless; wodlist
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My friends,

America has a huge problem with illegal drug use a couple of points:

1. The average life expectancy of someone using crack cocaine is 10 years. 2. Some estimates are that 70% of robberies, are the results of drug addicts trying to get monies to buy drugs. And most of America’s prostitutes are drug addicts. 3. Many of America’s homicides are likewise related to drug sales and drug robberies (gone badly) 4. It is estimated that 30% of monies sent to welfare recipients are spent on drugs. (This is hard to determine because welfare agencies aren’t PRESENTLY allowed to test for drugs.

This may change if the Ashcroft’s justice department can defeat the ACLU. The ACLU as usual is doing whatever it can to prevent the creation of a free society. And they are fighting to see that the welfare money, drug money, drug addict cycle is not broken.

5. America’s Bums (these people are referred to by anti-Americans as homeless. The Counter American Culturists created this new-speak word to make Americans feel guilty and responsible and to prevent realistic programs from being set up to solve the problems of America’s street people) bums are made up almost entirely of the mentally ill and drug addicts.

One time I volunteered to try to help the Street-people. Working with several shelters we went around and invited street people to go to shelters where they could live in warm rooms with clean beds and all the food that they wanted. Totally free!

About 50% of the homeless we approached said that they wouldn’t go to the shelters because the shelters wouldn’t allow them to shoot up or use other drugs while they stayed there. So consequently they weren’t interested.

Another 30% were obvious schizophrenics. These poor creatures had no idea where they were, or who they were, and they would just walk away from the shelters if they were taken there. But they also refused to go to shelters. Another 20% just refused without saying why.

(A loving society would have had these Schizophrenics committed against their will to institutions where they could be cared for. Many had previously been in institutions. They had then been put on medications got a little better. Then they were released. After their releases they promptly quit taking their meds, and were back to being full blown Schizophrenics in about 100 hours.

Back in the 1960s the ACLU (An organization which is a much greater danger to America than the Islamic terrorists) Took the case of institutionalized Schizophrenics all of the way to the Supreme court. The ACLU won a decision that said that if the patient could be returned to a minimal degree of sanity (on medication) that it was unconstitutional to continue to hold him against his will. (If he had not injured or killed anyone recently)

The only problem was that on release about 95% of them quit taking their medications, as soon as they were released. And the ACLU’s insane have turned cities ( Like San Francisco that solicits Bums) into something that resembles the movie (ATTACK OF THE LIVING DEAD)

Any one who has had the misfortune to visit downtown San Francisco and watched these poor creatures defecating in the streets and hitting the cement building walls with their hands and heads, knows what I mean.

Any way only about one in a hundred of the HOMELESS on the streets would accept our free invitation to accommodations.

Now if you don’t believe me try this, call your city's social service department. Then get the names and addresses of several free homeless shelters.

The next time you encounter a “Homeless” person defecating on the street, laying in his own vomit, or telling you that he desperately would be willing to do any kind of work for food. Offer to call him a cab and tell him that you will GIVE THE CABBIE THE MONEY to take him to a shelter that provides beds and food for free.

And as you try to give him the addresses and names of the shelters to choose from, watch him walk away! He will most often be giving you the bird as he goes.

It was after that experience, that I half jokingly came up with the idea of creating Bums-villas for all of our major cities.

First the Bums addictions were fatal diseases. It didn’t matter if their drug of choice was Alcohol, Heroine, Crack, or Cocaine. They were all doomed. The only questions were how long would they live, how much comfort would they be in, and how many innocent citizens would they rob, kill, or give HIV to before they died.

Back to my concept of Bumsville. In the bumbsvills the drug addicts could get all of the drugs that they wanted. And they would get whatever drugs they wanted. And they could stay there in comfort until they died of drug induced organ failure or overdose.

And it would be economical. For example $1,000 dollars worth of welfare money could buy on the street about the same amount of heroine or crack that the US government could produce for $40 dollars.

And with out any taxes the government could produce ethanol (the universal intoxicating agent in all alcoholic beverages) for about 80cents a quart of 100 proof alcohol.(It is exactly the same product that they are trying to run our cars on.

The only requirement for living in Bumsville is that you couldn’t leave and return to bum-free society. But since their entire lives are devoted to acquiring drugs, why would they ever want to leave when the drinking fountains flowed with bourbon and wine? And their caretakers could insert permanent IVs so that they never again had to find a vein. It would be economical cheaper for society. Stop most all robberies. And if the ACLU could be assured that the Bums could vote Democrat. They might fight for a bill requiring the government to force the disadvantaged into becoming drug addicts.

How do you feel about the decision by the English to provide their heroine addicts with free heroine?

Sincerely,

Pliny the younger

1 posted on 12/06/2002 9:04:27 AM PST by Pliney the younger
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To: Pliney the younger
I don't know about England, but it would seem ironic, wouldn't it, to have America declared a smoke-free country (they are pushing hard in that direction), yet to continue to allow drinking (which probably kills more people than cigs) and give out free heroin. Does anybody see the irony in this scenario?
2 posted on 12/06/2002 9:36:21 AM PST by beachn4fun
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To: Pliney the younger
Just add gambling, prostitution and pornography, and Bumsville sounds like the perfect location for the next Libertarian Party Convention.

And a great place to raise kids, too!

3 posted on 12/06/2002 9:43:33 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Pliney the younger
As an economical solution to the problem of addicts roaming our streets your plan makes sense. There would need to be people who worked in Bumsville to pick up the corpses. Further, I would also stipulate that a detoxifixation program could be instituted that would allow a resiident of Bumsville to leave provide said resident were free of substance abuse .0001% might make it out but thatis proabbly a much better ratio than at present out on the streets.

Now since entry into Bumsville would be completely voluntary and exit would also be voluntary provided one tested clean for a sufficient time I can think of no Constitutional prohibition for such a community. I do not think to many people would wish to live next door to Bumsville but many people do not like living near prisons.

This sort of community could well do more to disrupt street gangs than most of the police programs in place.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

4 posted on 12/06/2002 10:00:31 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Pliney the younger
Its a better idea than the current WOD. The heroin addicts will die quicker.
5 posted on 12/06/2002 10:02:55 AM PST by weikel
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To: Pliney the younger
bump
6 posted on 12/06/2002 10:16:47 AM PST by alex
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To: Pliney the younger
and we should give free clothes to Winona
7 posted on 12/06/2002 10:18:19 AM PST by error99
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To: Pliney the younger
I fail to see how this is much different than prison. Well, people are put into prison involuntarily, but that's about all.
8 posted on 12/06/2002 10:20:09 AM PST by spodbox
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To: Pliney the younger
I was thinking more of a deserted island --- like Alcatraz?
9 posted on 12/06/2002 11:02:34 AM PST by eccentric
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To: Pliney the younger
I think that Britain tried something similar back in the 70s, and they were inundated with drug users from here going there to partake of their generosity. I suppose this time will be pretty much as it was then.
looks like we're going to lose 70% of the Hollyweird crowd to the UK.
10 posted on 12/06/2002 11:19:56 AM PST by scouse
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To: Pliney the younger
Sounds good to me, just make it so anybody who makes a withdraw on any intoxicant cannot leave for 7 days. Put a Color tv next to their cot and allow the purest of heroin to be availabe. Something like a big roach motel. I fear it would work far too well.

It reminds me of that picture of a lab rat starving to death in a cage while pressing a buttone wired to the pleasure centers of his brain. He never found time to eat.
11 posted on 12/06/2002 12:53:56 PM PST by American in Israel
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British Government To Give Free Heroin To Addicts (Good idea for USA?)

Absolutely a good idea; send our Heroine Addicts to Britian.

12 posted on 12/06/2002 3:28:28 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: Pliney the younger
This is so pathetic. What about when one of these drug addicts leaves the medical clinic doped up, robs a liquor store and kills someone? The government would be held liable (as they should be) for shooting them up with drugs.

Here in California they try to pass laws to give out needles to drug users all the time, and the laws don't pass (thank God)! It's ridiculous for the government to blatantly subsidize someone killing themselves.

13 posted on 12/06/2002 4:27:44 PM PST by Gophack
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Dear Gohack,

Thank you for your sentiments about my post.

You make an excellent point.

Sincerely,

Pliny the younger
14 posted on 12/06/2002 7:15:04 PM PST by Pliney the younger
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To: Gophack; *Wod_list
What about when one of these drug addicts leaves the medical clinic doped up, robs a liquor store

Nonsense---addicts rob to get drug money, which they wouldn't need in the scenario under discussion.

15 posted on 12/09/2002 8:33:42 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
Anybody familiar with the current program under which Britian prescribes heroin to addicts (and which so many freepers have said was a failure and discontinued - here's a quarter, folks, buy a clue) would know why some of these hysterical musings(robbing liquor stores, etc) are such a crock.
16 posted on 12/09/2002 8:41:21 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: MrLeRoy
Good point. I suppose we should just give them the drugs then at taxpayer expense and call it a crime control program.
17 posted on 12/09/2002 8:48:42 AM PST by Gophack
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To: Pliney the younger
How do you feel about the decision by the English to provide their heroine addicts with free heroine?

If the good people of Britain are truly comfortable with paying taxes to be a nation of enablers, God bless 'em. The day the American people do something this stupid will be the day Hell freezes over.

18 posted on 12/09/2002 8:52:42 AM PST by jpl
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To: jpl
The money will be spent anyway, just on prisons. At least admit that the cost doesn't bother you if the expense is punitive in nature.
19 posted on 12/09/2002 8:54:34 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
I'd prefer a general policy of mandatory drug rehab to imprisonment myself, and I don't mind spending my tax money on rehab centers. Serious addicts need love, compassion, and help. They sure as hell don't need to be enabled.
20 posted on 12/09/2002 9:03:07 AM PST by jpl
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