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Freeper Reports from Ground Zero Venezuela...
Personal Eye Witness | 7/7/02 | Shane Connor

Posted on 12/07/2002 4:14:51 PM PST by shanec

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To: shanec
Awesome report! Stay safe!
41 posted on 12/07/2002 6:52:18 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Ping!
42 posted on 12/07/2002 7:05:35 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Carry_Okie
Consider how easily one could introduce a bioweapon to the US by contaminating cocaine.

That's a really interesting scenario. When you think about it, mixing a few ounces of anthrax spores into a few kilos of cocaine would probably result in thousands of cases all over the US in a period of a few days.

43 posted on 12/07/2002 7:28:25 PM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: shanec
Thanks so much for an amazing first hand report. I pray for the freedom fighters of Venezuela.

We could hope that the people of Iraq would do the same.
44 posted on 12/07/2002 7:51:11 PM PST by m-clone
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To: m-clone
bump
45 posted on 12/07/2002 8:34:31 PM PST by dalereed
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To: shanec
Link to Official Venezuelan Defense Ministry website...
http://www.mindefensa.gov.ve

The current (Dec 8) screenshot of the above hacked website:

The Defense Ministry is the Venezuelan equivalent to the US Defense Dept.
Hacker kept the logo of "Ministerio de la Defensa" in there.

Translation:

"Damned Killers. Minister Prieto (He is The Secretary of Defense in Venezuela), how much does Chavez pay you to be the lackey of his revolution?"

[picture of Chavez on toilet paper, with text below reading:]

"You are full of it, Chavez for you little time is left"

Below picture it reads:

"This is for the fallen of Plaza Altamira"
Signed: "Ratahackz y the tankers"
"We've got you crazy!!!"

46 posted on 12/07/2002 8:43:07 PM PST by shanec
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To: shanec
Great report!

You still have the world's most beautiful women though! Chavez can't take that away.

47 posted on 12/07/2002 9:04:42 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: shanec
The world's largest oil refinery, "El Palito", in Venezuela, has reportedly been shut down (orderly shutdown), by its management at 1 AM local time -- 15 minutes ago.

We have this information from the Gerente de Operaciones, operations manager. No current time to commence operations again has been stated. BTW, when they do, to restart this refinery will take between 4 and 5 days under normal conditions and with a full crew.

-Shane

48 posted on 12/07/2002 9:19:09 PM PST by shanec
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To: shanec

Thanks for posting this.

Libertad!


49 posted on 12/07/2002 9:19:35 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: SauronOfMordor
That's a really interesting scenario. When you think about it, mixing a few ounces of anthrax spores into a few kilos of cocaine would probably result in thousands of cases all over the US in a period of a few days.

Kind of obvious, don't you think? As state sponsored terrorism, it could be a lot worse than that. The only thing standing in the way is their motive to keep their customers.

50 posted on 12/07/2002 9:25:52 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: shanec
Just returned from a Christmas Party where I spoke to two Venezuelans who were concerned about their homeland. I am so glad to be able to read your personal account-much seems to be happening regularly.

Shame on Chavez. What a creep!

And as for Venezuela-LIBERTAD!!!!!!!!!

51 posted on 12/07/2002 9:32:31 PM PST by Republic
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To: shanec
VIVA VENEZUELA LIBRE!!!! This loser Chavez disgraces the memory of the great Simon Bolivar by using his name to justify tyranny. Bolivar was a friend of the US and one of its biggest admirers.
52 posted on 12/07/2002 9:38:36 PM PST by Sparta
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To: shanec
Incredible report and please stay safe and keep us filled in.

The basic non news of this event from ABCNNBCBS is skewed as they are pro the commie killer in charge now. Hugo Chavez reminds me of Fidel Castro with his brutality and lies to his people. He must be killed soon!

We can only hope that "Hugo Chavez will soon be just a terrible greasy spot in history!"

He deserves the same fate that Saddam deserves, a few good shots to the head and a few hundred in his chest for good measure!

God Bless all of your brave Patriots in their revolution to return sanity to Venezuela!
53 posted on 12/07/2002 10:57:23 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: shanec; Fish out of Water
BUMP!!

***Support for Chavez is now under 20%, where even the lower clases have tired of his five years of empty rhetoric and promises. All the Venezuelan TV stations, except for sole govt owned station, are now openly and eagerly anti-Chavez. One has a regular nightly comedy section as part of their news report called ¨Chavez vs Chavez¨ with Rocky theme music for the background as they show one clip of Chavez from the past making some declaration and then another, more recent, clip that is in direct contradiction to his earlier pronouncements. His lies and deceptions have caught up to him and his active support has largely shrunk to only those with a vested interest in his power maintaining theirs. With a Chavez packed/picked 11 to 9 Supreme Court, there are now over 20 strong merit Constitutional abuse and corruption cases against him languishing for lack of proper action by the Supreme Court ... Any one of which would, upon conviction, have him automatically removed from office. The people here have gone the legal route, know the facts of these cases clearly, know also what is going on in the stonewalling of those cases by his appointees, and this along with economic and military revelations (detailed below) has been the motivation for many to have now taken to the streets en mass and so effectively. The resulting anti-Chavez popular movement is made up of a large cross section of the population with many middle and upper class, clean cut and well dressed, energetic citizens and families of all ages. You would be proud to have them and their enthusiasm join in with any Freeper event! ***


Sat Dec 7, 4:47 PM ET Carrying a banner that reads 'Chavez assassin', thousands of members of the opposition march across a main road in Caracas, December 7, 2002. Leaders of the opposition, who blamed President Hugo Chavez for driving Venezuela into recession and social turmoil, called a nationwide strike, now in its sixth day, to press the former paratrooper into early elections. REUTERS/Enrique Marcarian

Hugo Chavez - Venezuela

54 posted on 12/08/2002 12:20:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: aristeides; thinden; honway; piasa; archy; Betty Jo; philman_36; kcvl; Shermy; Nogbad; Mitchell
#8 - Remember brief mention in media recently about accusations Castro had a bio-weapon lab in Cuba? Well, don't bother looking for it there anymore, it was airlifted out by a Chavez C-130 in a rush/hush mission shortly after that news story broke. It's here, still largely crated and being watched, awaiting final destination along with Cuban technicians that came with it.

fyi

55 posted on 12/08/2002 2:25:41 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: livius; All
Regarding #8.


Thu Nov 28, 2:28 AM ET Cuban leader Fidel Castro reacts Thursday Nov. 28, 2002 as he is told that he delivered a 3-and-a-half hour speech at the meeting of the anti-ALCA meeting (ALCA, the Spanish acronym for Free Trade Agreement for the Americas) in Havana, Cuba. (AP photo/Jose Goitia)

Castro suspected of giving false data for war on terror

A Caribbean Terror - Does Castro have biological weapons? *** Is Fidel Castro busy cooking up viruses in Cuban labs to share with Islamic fundamentalists? To the pro-Castro lobby in America this is nothing more than a crackpot conspiracy theory devised by Miami's right-wing extremists. But to some reputable intelligence experts, the case is not so open and shut. It would be alarmist to warn of an impending attack, but it would be irresponsible to ignore some disconcerting signals and not remain vigilant.

Exhibit A in the case is Castro's warm relationship with sworn enemies of the U.S. In May the Cuban dictator went to Iran, which the U.S. labels as the world's most active supporter of terrorism. He was received by the "supreme leader," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who declared that "U.S. grandeur can be broken," and that if it is, "it will be a service rendered to mankind and even the American people." Not to be outdone, Castro told the Iranians, according to the Associated Press, that the U.S. is an "imperialist king" that "will finally fall, just as your king was overthrown." Other AP reports said that the maximum leader, as Castro calls himself, received an honorary doctorate from a Tehran university in recognition of his struggle against the U.S. Upon his departure, he declared that he had made new friends and left "with optimism about future ties."

In July Castro sent his close confidant Rodrigo Alvarez Cambras--a congressman and the head of the Cuban-Iraqi Friendship Society--to Iraq as an envoy. According to BBC reports from Iraqi TV and Iraq Radio in Baghdad, Alvarez Cambras met with Saddam Hussein to convey a "verbal message" on behalf of Castro and also with Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz. His meetings were boilerplate Fidelismo: Down with Yankee aggression and up with solidarity with Iraq. During an April visit he had included commentary on the Middle East. "Condemning the Zionist crimes against our people in Palestine, Cambras described them as Nazi crimes," reported the BBC, monitoring the Iraqi News Agency.***

December 2000 - Fidel, Saddam and Hugo --An improbable but growing friendship of three military revolutionaries*** The Castro-Hussein-Chávez connection is anti-American and anti-capitalistic, but not in an ideological way. What matters to the three is domestic power built upon a base of nationalism that they believe legitimizes their policies In a way, this bizarre trio represents the rebirth, a half century later, of the kind of nationalist populism spawned by General Juan Perón in Argentina and Gamal Abdel Nasser in Egypt. Mr. Castro and Mr. Saddam gained power through armed revolutions; Mr. Chávez, a paratroopers' lieutenant colonel, was democratically elected in 1998, after serving time for trying to overthrow the government in 1992.

Mr. Chávez is the most intriguing new leader to emerge in Latin America since Mr. Castro - and he is the lynchpin between Mr. Castro and Mr. Saddam. Although Cuba had been sending doctors and health workers to Iraq for years, there had not been any major contacts between the two countries until Mr. Chávez appeared on the scene. This fall, Mr. Chávez became the first democratically elected foreign head of state to visit Iraq since the Gulf War, ostensibly to invite Mr. Saddam to a summit of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. But it also was an in-your face gesture toward the United States.***

Hugo Chavez - Venezuela

56 posted on 12/08/2002 3:08:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Dog Gone
As much as we want to see democratic principles spread around the world, this is a country that is critical to our own economy.
Both democracy and economic stability are at stake here.

I see that the Republic and the concept of republicanism is dead with you too.
What a shame and what a disappointment. I'm glad your true beliefs are showing through though, no more illusions...
This "experiment in Democracy" is ruining this nation.
57 posted on 12/08/2002 3:36:17 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Lion's Cub
So he's gone mobile...
No telling where it'll end up. Somebody better keep an eye on that stuff if it's possible. Island isolation wasn't too bad, but it is on the continent now. Land transport is so much easier and less visible because of the variety of means of transport.
A car here, a truck there...
58 posted on 12/08/2002 3:42:39 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Could it be that this lab actually belongs to Sadham and Castro was just holding it for him and Venezuela is just a waypoint that is out of reach of Blitz and his keystone kops?
59 posted on 12/08/2002 4:34:47 AM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed
Could it be that this lab actually belongs to Sadham and Castro was just holding it for him and Venezuela is just a waypoint that is out of reach of Blitz and his keystone kops?
Probably not. Castro has had bio labs for several years.
They're both like women in that aspect, in that they like their own home and don't like to share theirs with another.
The Queen and her castle, as it were.
They may share recipes, but not homes. The same with the labs, IMO.
60 posted on 12/08/2002 4:40:25 AM PST by philman_36
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