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Bill Frist on Abortion
Issues 2000 ^ | PRE-2000 Election | Issues 2000 staff I presume

Posted on 12/15/2002 7:13:58 PM PST by ApesForEvolution

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To: ApesForEvolution
The two posts are from the Almanac of American Politics. Do you want any more, or am I spamming?
41 posted on 12/15/2002 8:36:06 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie; JayWolfe; Twig; RFP; mountaineer; folklore; Conservativegreatgrandma; SoDak; DakotaGator; ...
I will be 100% out in the open about the reasons why I oppose Frist viscerally:

In his role as head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, he totally stiffed the Republicans in West Virginia in this most recent election cycle, by not investing a PENNY in the Senate race against John D. Rockefeller IV. He stiffed the very people who handed President Bush the White House in 2000 by against all the conventional wisdom winning WV's 5 electoral votes (also without help from the geniuses in the GOP establishment).

Jay Wolfe had a solid campaign, and a chance to make a real run at the extremely liberal Rockefeller in a state that is evolving towards our side. But he was left twisting in the wind without the finances for proper staffing or to take it to him on television.

As many here know, I was campaign manager for Mr. Wolfe; so I know of what I speak...I endured months of futile attempts to get Frist to open their overflowing war chest to the people who were fighting to erode the ground under the corrupt Democrat machine of Robert 'Sheets' Byrd.

In Iowa, in the Senate primary, Republicans had a choice between an exciting young conservative named Bill Salier and the Club for Growth's RINO of the year Congressman Greg Ganske. Frist poured millions of dollars into Iowa to support Ganske...ignoring the fact that Commie Tommy Harkin has been chewing up and spitting out moderate to liberal Republican Congressmen for the last 30 years. As you all know, Harkin crushed Ganske, even though his campaign was caught taping a private Ganske meeting with a White House official.

I could go on about the wasted opportunities in SD, MT, NJ and AR, but this should give y'all some idea why I think he is an AWFUL pick going into an election cycle that gives us an opportunity of a lifetime to nail down our majorities for years to come.

Nickles would unify and energize the party...he's the man for the job.



42 posted on 12/15/2002 8:41:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Torie
Torie, that is excellent.

"Do you want any more, or am I spamming?"

Tell me if I'm wrong (I haven't started many threads, but thought this would be helpful), but that's kind of what we need - relevant information, as per the request, 'spammed' to build the relevant facts for the stated purpose. I appreciate it. I keep digging for the best sources of info and my trillian messenger is taking 20 messages a minute, so I'm get scattered on my end. Any and all help is appreciated.
43 posted on 12/15/2002 8:42:41 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: ApesForEvolution
Does not homicide properly fall under state jurisdiction? Many states already have statutes forbidding "partial birth abortion" but courts block their enforcement. I fail to see how homicide falls under federal jurisdiction.
44 posted on 12/15/2002 8:44:50 PM PST by supercat
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To: EternalVigilance
Salier and Wolfe were DOA as far as winning any general election. Sorry, but that is the way it was. Frist was doing his job in sending the money to the most highly value added places. I can appreciate your grudge and respect it, but don't agree with it.
45 posted on 12/15/2002 8:47:29 PM PST by Torie
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To: ApesForEvolution
OK, I will put up McConnell, which rounds out the big 3 I think.
46 posted on 12/15/2002 8:48:47 PM PST by Torie
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To: ApesForEvolution
Mitch McConnell is Kentucky's senior senator, the architect of its 7-1 Republican congressional delegation and a major leader on several national issues. Yet his origins were modest and his rise anything but inevitable. He grew up in Alabama, where he overcame polio, and after age 13 moved to Louisville. He has been in politics almost his whole career: He was an intern for Senator John Sherman Cooper in 1964 and, after finishing law school, became a staffer for Senator Marlow Cook. He moved back to Louisville and in 1977, at 35, won by a narrow margin the office that had been Cook's political stepping stone, Jefferson County judge-executive. In 1981 he was re-elected, again narrowly. In 1984 he ran for the Senate, against incumbent Dee Huddleston. McConnell ran ads showing bloodhounds sniffing for Huddleston in vacation locales where he had collected fees for speeches while the Senate was in session. McConnell won by 5,169 votes of 1.2 million cast.

In the Senate, McConnell has a mostly conservative record and high party loyalty. Yet he was willing to penalize a fellow Republican when as Ethics Committee chairman in 1995 he led the investigation of Bob Packwood for sexual harassment; the committee recommended expulsion, and Packwood ultimately resigned. McConnell has been a strong backer of product liability and medical malpractice reform, and is a lead sponsor of the auto choice plan that would let car owners pay less for insurance by disclaiming pain and suffering damages. He has been the Senate sponsor of so-far unsuccessful measures to ban racial quotas and preferences. McConnell served on Foreign Relations until 1992, then switched to Appropriations and in 1994 became chairman of the Foreign Operations Subcommittee. He has strongly supported aid to Israel and has been skeptical about aid to Russia. He has faced questions about his and wife Elaine Chao's Chinese connections since she took over as Labor Secretary for the Bush Administration.

McConnell has spent much time on tobacco issues. In June 1998 he split with retiring Democrat Wendell Ford and backed an $18 billion tobacco program that would end price supports and provide mandatory buyouts of tobacco farmers. Ford and Jim Bunning, then a Republican congressman and candidate for the Senate, backed a $28 billion bailout with voluntary buyouts and continuing price supports. It was the first time in 60 years, Ford said, that Kentucky senators disagreed on tobacco. Later that month, the tobacco settlement bill died in the Senate, and McConnell, stung by criticism from tobacco farmers, reversed his previous desire to end price supports. In September he persuaded conferees to drop a provision that would have required tobacco companies to pay for tobacco price supports; they would take it out of the hide of farmers, he said. In August 1999 he got unanimous consent of a bill to overcome legal obstacles and get quicker payment of $112 million to tobacco farmers. In October 2000 he got burley tobacco growers released from repaying loans of $509 million and got disposal of 250 million pounds of surplus drought-damaged tobacco. McConnell has frequently used his seat on Appropriations to insert riders that help Kentucky. They include a transfer of mineral rights in eastern Kentucky from TVA, $1 million to study new coal technologies at a Capitol Hill power plant, $2 million to study impoundments that hold coal waste, $11 million for environmental cleanup and worker health testing at the Paducah uranium plant. He remained silent when his wife proposed transferring the Paducah program to the Justice Department, although Senator Jim Bunning and Representative Ed Whitfield objected.

McConnell's greatest expertise is on campaigns and elections. He has fought one battle after another against campaign finance bills that in his view limit free speech and vigorous electoral competition. ''Spending is speech,'' he says. ''The First Amendment denies government the power to determine that spending to promote one's political views is wasteful, excessive or unwise.'' He disputes the notions that campaign ads are some kind of pollution and that too much is spent on them. In 1994 he spoke all night to filibuster a campaign finance bill, "the only true all-night filibuster in the last 12 years," he said in 1999. In October 1999, with more than 40 senators on his side, he killed a version of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill. In 1999 Bill Clinton broke with tradition and refused to nominate Bradley Smith for FEC commissioner, the law professor picked by Senate Republicans, who opposed much campaign finance regulation as a violation of the First Amendment. McConnell got Clinton to nominate Smith by putting a hold on the nomination of Richard Holbrooke to be UN Ambassador. In March 2001, after Democrats picked up four seats in the 2000 election, John McCain insisted on bringing campaign finance forward again, and despite McConnell's efforts managed to pass his measure. But as McConnell pointed out, it did not include many provisions in previous McCain-Feingold bills, including public subsidies for candidates and voluntary spending limits. And the sweeping provisions against independent advertising inserted by an amendment by Paul Wellstone (which McConnell voted for) seemed likely to be ruled unconstitutional. McCain's bill was also amended by a doubling of the limit on individual contributions.

McConnell ran for chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee and lost to Phil Gramm in 1990 and in 1992 by one vote; he won the post in November 1996. But he was not able to get Republican senators to contribute as much to campaigns as Democratic senators for 1998, and he was criticized for contributing heavily to Mark Neumann of Wisconsin, who ran against Russ Feingold, and for skimping on Washington state's Linda Smith, a McCain-Feingold backer. He responded that polls showed Neumann's chances were better, and indeed Neumann won a higher percentage, but both lost. So did enough Republican hopefuls that the party gained no seats. After the election, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska ran for the post, but McConnell won 39-13. In the 2000 cycle he had tougher sledding. The death of Paul Coverdell in July 2000 cost Republicans one crucial seat. The death of Missouri Democrat Mel Carnahan in a plane crash in October 2000 resulted in the candidacy of his widow and the narrow defeat of John Ashcroft, who might have won if the crash had not occcurred. Republicans lost most of the close races, and the result was a 50-50 split. But McConnell did not seem to be getting much blame. He relinquished the post in December 2000 since his seat is up in 2002.

McConnell has had more success in building up Kentucky's chronically ailing Republican Party. He oversaw Ron Lewis's capture of the 2d District House seat in a May 1994 special election. He helped Ed Whitfield pick up the 1st District and Republican legislative candidates win in western Kentucky in 1994. He backed Anne Northup in her win in Louisville's 3d District in 1996. In 1998 McConnell strongly backed Jim Bunning's candidacy for the Senate. But when Democrat Paul Patton was narrowly elected governor in November 1995, Democrats sensed McConnell might be in trouble. He had won a second term in 1990 over former Louisville Mayor Harvey Sloane 52%-48%. The 1996 Democratic nominee, former Lieutenant Governor Steve Beshear, attacked McConnell for stopping campaign finance reform, for seeking to delay voting on the minimum wage increase and for supporting NAFTA. McConnell charged that Beshear was a lobbyist, a political insider and, worst, a fox hunter; on the campaign trail Beshear was followed by a character dressed in fox-hunting regalia. McConnell put Beshear on the defensive when Bill Clinton proposed that the FDA regulate tobacco as a drug. McConnell spent $5 million to Beshear's $2 million and, after early polls showed a close race, won 55%-43%. He carried the Louisville and Lexington areas, won 2-1 in northern Kentucky, and lost only handfuls of counties in the eastern mountains and in the far western end of the state.

In the 2000 election, McConnell helped the Bush campaign target and carry Kentucky; he backed the successful merger of the Jefferson County and Louisville city governments. After the election, he and Bob Torricelli, the Democrats' 2000 Senate campaign committee chairman, proposed a bipartisan four-member commission to study elections and make recommendations to state and local governments, with $100 million in federal grants to states.

McConnell comes up for re-election in 2002. In February 2001 Lois Combs Weinberg, daughter of former (1959-63) Governor Bert Combs, announced she was running. Bert Combs was one of the leading Kentucky politicians of the 20th Century. Weinberg has served on education boards but never before sought elective office, but her announcement was attended by state House Majority Leader Greg Stumbo and former Governors Martha Layne Collins and Edward Breathitt; she seemed unlikely to have competition for the Democratic nomination, except perhaps from self-financing (and 1998 Senate candidate) Charlie Owen. Weinberg called McConnell "the poster boy of the privileged and the powerful" and promised to attack him for his opposition to campaign finance election. Of that issue, McConnell said in 2001, "I can still confidently state that there has never been an election in American history decided on this issue one way or another, either for or against a candidate." The 2002 election may be a test of that proposition.




Group Ratings 
 ADA ACLU AFS LCV CON ITIC NTU COC ACU  NTLC CHC 
2000 5  29  0  0  11  89   74  92  100  97   92  
1999 0  --  0  0  8   --   75  88  84   --  --  


National Journal Ratings 
      1999 LIB --  1999 CONS   2000 LIB --  2000 CONS 
Economic   0%  --  83%            0%    --  86% 
Social    23%  --  72%            22%   --  73% 
Foreign   46%  --  52%            5%    --  86% 


Key Votes of the 106th Congress  
1. Educ. Savings Accts. Y 
2. Prescrip. Drug Benefit N 
3. Delay Ergonomic Standards Y 
4. Phase Out Estate Tax Y 
5. Review Movie Violence Y 
6. Gun Show Bckgrnd. Checks N 

7. Ban Part.-Birth Abortion Y 
 8. Broaden Hate Crimes List N 
 9. NATO War in Serbia Y 
10. Table Cuba Travel Ban Y 
11. Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty N 
12. Perm. Trade with China Y 

 


47 posted on 12/15/2002 8:53:33 PM PST by Torie
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To: montag813
Frist gets a D- rating from Gun Owners of America

Yes, but it seems that is the average grade, even for the GOP

I suppose that is because that is about what nearly all the politicians have earned. Just more evidence that we need to throw all the suns-a-b!tches out.

48 posted on 12/15/2002 9:04:05 PM PST by Aarchaeus
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To: Torie
Weinberg called McConnell "the poster boy of the privileged and the powerful" and promised to attack him for his opposition to campaign finance election. Of that issue, McConnell said in 2001, "I can still confidently state that there has never been an election in American history decided on this issue one way or another, either for or against a candidate." The 2002 election may be a test of that proposition.

Some test:
McConnell (R) 65%
Weinberg (D) 35%

49 posted on 12/15/2002 9:07:36 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Paul Atreides
PBA is NEVER medically necessary. The people who claim it is are either ignorant or lying. If the mother's life is in danger, the pregnancy can be ended - by delivering the baby and sending it to the NICU. Killing the mother does nothing to enhance the mother's health.

My husband is a specialist in high-risk obstetrics. He deals with these kinds of cases all the time. If the pregnancy has to be ended in a hurry, he can do a c-section. If they can safely wait a day or so, he will induce labor (just like for a PBA) and deliver the baby - alive.

50 posted on 12/15/2002 9:10:24 PM PST by knuthom
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To: AmericaUnited
I wonder what rationale the parents have for doing something so monstrous.

Molech still needs appeasing...

Thanks for posting that. I had been feeling as if I were the only one who could see what is really going on in America.

51 posted on 12/15/2002 9:10:46 PM PST by Aarchaeus
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To: Torie
I just love it when the establishment makes their pontifications that campaigns are DOA before they ever start...and then never even check to see if they have made a tactical and strategic miscalculation. That's what they did in WV.

At the same time, they squandered millions in your 'high-value' places...tens of millions.

You don't leave your base hang out to dry...you at the minimum give them a minimum of support.

They had 200 grand in an account just for WV, and they sat on it.

Harkin was sooo beatable this year...but they blew it.

In SD, their ground game stunk up the place...I got complaints from people on the ground all the way through the campaign...but they wouldn't listen.

Montana too.



52 posted on 12/15/2002 9:14:19 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: ApesForEvolution
Nickles is straight conservative on every issue. Pro-second amendment, pro-life, pro-growth,etc. Frist is supposed to be pro-abortion but I recall him calling himself pro-life during several interviews on CNN. For what its worth, John McCain has stated he is pro-life, then went about saying he didn't think it would be a good idea to over turn roe vs wade (he flip flops alot actually). Frist has shown a tendency to spend more money on problems that he sees (i.e. funding for african nations, fight against aids, any type of medical problem).
53 posted on 12/15/2002 10:02:48 PM PST by Sonny M
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To: Paul Atreides
Also, a PBA can take up to three days to complete. I would think that involves a lot of stress on a woman in medical danger. Former Surgeon General Koop, as well as the AMA and Sen. Frist, stated that it is never medically necessary for this procedure.
54 posted on 12/15/2002 10:03:19 PM PST by skr
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To: skr
BTTT

Bill Frist on Campaign Finance Reform
55 posted on 12/15/2002 10:39:21 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: Sonny M
<a href="http://www.gunowners.org/sok0100.htm>Insights on Nickles and the 2nd Amendment</a><br><br>BTTT
56 posted on 12/15/2002 10:46:56 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: ApesForEvolution
OOPS

Try this one: Insights on Nickles and the 2nd Amendment
57 posted on 12/15/2002 10:48:14 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: EternalVigilance
I was not aware of your relationship with the WV campaign. I have a lot of friends and WV and would like to 'chat' with you sometime. I've got to wrap up another project and hit the rack (might buzz through the forum once). Check your FRemail tomorrow. Blessings, AFE
58 posted on 12/15/2002 10:50:06 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: montag813
While I like the work the Gun Owners of America does, its ratings are completely useless. Every single Democrat is given an "F". Of course every single Democrat in the Senate doesn't oppose guns with the same level of vigor. And gives most Republicans grades of "C". According to GOA ratings well over three-quarters of the Senate doesn't support gun ownership which is just plain silly.
59 posted on 12/15/2002 10:59:57 PM PST by afuturegovernor
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To: Torie
Not spam, very useful! Incidentally, embryonic stem cell research isn't actually about abortion so much as it is about exploiting what is arguably individual human life, killing the individual life to harvest useful 'body parts'. [As an aside, we ought not be supporting human cloning or destructive embryonic stem cell exploitation. There are excellent sources for stem cells that do not involve the destruction of embryos.]

Frist was in favor of opening the in vitro fertilization clinic unused individual living embryos for destructive research. At the deepest level it's ghoulish. [The reason embryonic stem cell research is not about abortion hinges on the fact that the embryos will not be implanted in a woman's body, but dissected for embryonic body parts after being 'gestated' artificially to a cell differentiation stage desired.]

As far as I know, Frist is not in favor of abortion except for cases of imminent danger to the mother's life, rape and incest, and he doesn't favor abortion even in the rape and incest exceptions if the pregnancy is approximately half-way through the 40 weeks ... as far as I can discern from correspondence through his office.

60 posted on 12/15/2002 11:36:45 PM PST by MHGinTN
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