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Rights activists seeking to halt citizen border patrols - groups that try to curb illegal crossings
Associated Press ^ | December 28, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 12/28/2002 2:24:22 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


Rights activists seeking to halt citizen border patrols

New governor urged to stop groups that try to curb illegal crossings

12/28/2002

Associated Press

PHOENIX - Immigrants rights activists are urging Arizona's incoming governor to stop citizens groups that patrol border areas looking for illegal immigrants and smugglers.

Members of the Border Action Network asked Gov.-elect Janet Napolitano earlier this month to investigate the legality of the armed groups and their actions, which are aimed at curbing illegal border crossings.

"It's not their job to defend, to harass people, stalk people, injure people. That's nobody's job," said Jennifer Allen, co-director of the Tucson-based organization. "They [illegal immigrants] have civil rights and human rights that take precedence over defending the country."

There are now at least three citizens groups patrolling the Arizona-Mexico border, which has been one of the most active spots in the nation for illegal crossings during the last few years.

In at least one instance, one group seized about 280 pounds of marijuana from smugglers crossing a private ranch.

So far, there has been no known violence linked to the groups.

However, officials have warned of the potential for someone to get hurt during encounters between the groups and illegal immigrants or smugglers.

Human rights groups, such as the Arizona Civil Liberties Union and the Office of Peace and Justice, are backing activists opposing the citizens groups' actions, as are some local government officials and border residents.

"We are a government of law," said Pamela K. Sutherland, legal director of the Arizona Civil Liberties Union. "The vigilantism and lawlessness they [citizens militias] represent cannot be tolerated and we won't let their behavior go unchecked."

Members of the patrol groups said Wednesday that they have taken defensive measures because law enforcement has failed them.

"Citizens would not feel they have to do this if our elected officials were doing their job in providing security," said Chris Simcox, organizer of a militia called Civil Homeland Defense.

"We are humans who understand the plight of people who are fleeing Mexico, but it is not a situation we will tolerate," Mr. Simcox said.

Southern Arizona rancher Roger Barnett said he patrols his land to protect against people who are breaking the law. Mr. Barnett has on occasion confronted illegal immigrants and held them for authorities.

"There's no law down here. It's a dangerous place," he said. "These people who come in, they tear up the environment, they'll drive down the road like a crazy person. Everyone is in danger of these people. They're lawbreakers."

Border Action Network is also urging the government to investigate several incidents in which immigrants were killed or injured, including five cases from this year.

They include an October case where unknown gunmen opened fire on a group of illegal immigrants in Red Rock. Authorities are investigating whether smugglers were responsible for the shootings.

Ms. Napolitano's office received the organization's report on the patrol groups Wednesday but has yet to review it, said Napolitano spokeswoman Kris Mayes.

"There is no room in Arizona for vigilanteism," said Ms. Mayes.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/tsw/stories/122802dntexazvigilantes.24ff7.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arizona; borderpatrols; citizenpatrolgroup; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist
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To: judgeandjury
INS and Border Patrol management evidently don't think of it as their job either. Those of us here in Cochise County who do go out scouting for illegals don't consider it a job either -- just a fun outdoor hobby.

Think of it as bird watching with a healthy dose of Neighborhood Watch thrown in. Spot 'em, phone in their location and watch the fun if or when the Border Patrol shows up.

If I had my way they'd be walking back to the border and retrieving their trash as they went.
61 posted on 12/28/2002 2:38:17 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Oh man, Bro, that's spooky. I was just thinkin' this morning about what it would take to get the illegals we round up to clean up after themselves.

What I'd really like to see is Isabel and Raul down here cleaning up the trash.

Do you remember the numbers from last year's 'community cleanup'?
62 posted on 12/28/2002 2:53:49 PM PST by HiJinx
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To: Tripleplay; SheLion
<< Please put me on the list >>

Me too, please -- B A
63 posted on 12/28/2002 3:27:49 PM PST by Brian Allen
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To: HiJinx
The Democrats want no inquiries. The Republicans are afraid to ask.
64 posted on 12/28/2002 3:27:59 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: HiJinx
I can't recall the numbers, but it did not include what many landowners had already hauled away.

However, I do know how many illegals the Border Patrol caught here in FY 2002 -- it was 156,950. Most of the field personnel insist they're only catching about 20% so that means another 600,000 made it past them. I have seen statements from the Tohono O'odham reservation and the Park Service rangers recently that the average illegal leaves 8 to 10 pounds of trash behind by the time he makes it to a ride pick-up point. That's potentially 6,000,000 pounds or 3,000 tons just for this one small county.

65 posted on 12/28/2002 6:18:26 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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To: MeeknMing
Janet Napolitano, John McCain,...
What's WITH the folks in Arizona?

Do they still think they're living in Michigan or something?
66 posted on 12/28/2002 7:20:50 PM PST by Redbob
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To: MeeknMing
Put me on the list. I'm only 40 miles from the border!!!
67 posted on 12/28/2002 7:36:32 PM PST by tbird1
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To: tbird1
Tis done, my FRiend. Thanks !
68 posted on 12/28/2002 7:58:03 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Please add me to the list!

Someone mentioned Nappy-tano of being a lesbian. That wouldn't surprise me with all of her support for gay rights. What is our state coming to?
69 posted on 12/28/2002 11:01:44 PM PST by azGOPgal
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To: azGOPgal
You're on, thanks!
70 posted on 12/29/2002 5:07:06 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Stoner
Thanks. I've added you...
72 posted on 12/29/2002 6:12:33 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Good Post, consider me a volunteer to help.
One main reason these gutless anti-American types are effective is they spin sympathy and photos into the issue, very convincing to a weak mind. How about we take some pictures and write some copy designed to balance the scales (poisoned dogs, trash, violated land, etc). Send this to the active politicians on our side and keep a CONTINUOUS effort going on this until we win.
My prayers go out to the land owners who are held hostage by this illegal assault on America.
73 posted on 12/29/2002 11:01:12 AM PST by MannMade
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To: MeeknMing

S3

bump

74 posted on 12/29/2002 5:19:05 PM PST by S.O.S121.500
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To: MeeknMing
"They [illegal immigrants] have civil rights and human rights that take precedence over defending the country."

At least this jerk knows and admits what his priorities are.

75 posted on 12/29/2002 5:39:45 PM PST by Jeff Gordon
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To: MeeknMing
"We are a government of law," said Pamela K. Sutherland, legal director of the Arizona Civil Liberties Union.

I wish you would be more concerned about IMMIGRATION law instead of some make-believe right to come to this country illegally...

76 posted on 12/30/2002 7:04:38 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: MeeknMing
"It's not their job to defend, to harass people, stalk people, injure people. That's nobody's job," said Jennifer Allen, co-director of the Tucson-based organization. "They [illegal immigrants] have civil rights and human rights that take precedence over defending the country."

Say WHAT??! You best check yo sheeat, chick... That doesn't translate well over to the Islamic terrorist situation...

What does anybody wanna bet that Allen and all the rest of these activist bimbos quoted above do NOT have property on the border and are NOT affected adversely in the least by illegal border crossing.

I say more power to the Civil Homeland Defense and all the other groups of U. S. citizens getting fed up with political inpotence and foolishness, and doing something about their own damn property. I tell you what, if/when I live down there you better believe I'll be out there patroling my own property at least...

77 posted on 12/30/2002 7:14:51 AM PST by maxwell
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