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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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To: CounterCounterCulture
I love the Chiefs. I can even support the possibility that they may beat Oakland away, though OAK is wanting some payback for their stutterstep in KC. Miami will beat New England.

I have to face facts though. There is no way without direct divine intervention that Arizona will beat Denver at Denver.

It's been a great year for the AFC West. Every team in that division can beat any other team in the NFL. You can't say that about the AFC North. :)


41 posted on 12/28/2002 11:13:35 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: lonestar
Sometimes you wish they could both lose. :)

Gig 'em!

At first I didn't know what you meant, but you sound like a TCU fan? I don't know what else to think with your handle being lonestar.... lol

42 posted on 12/28/2002 11:13:47 AM PST by need_a_screen_name
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To: CounterCounterCulture
They just mentioned that the Philadelphia Eagles are changing the spelling of their name to "Iggels", so it will be easier for the fans to do their chant...

"I...G...G...E...L...S...IGGELS!!!"

43 posted on 12/28/2002 11:13:50 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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7 Philadelphia Eagles
0 New York Giants

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44 posted on 12/28/2002 11:14:03 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Fire Tubby!!!!!!!


Any KY fans out there? Pitino just schooled KY BIGTIME in his second year of rebuilding at UL.
45 posted on 12/28/2002 11:14:36 AM PST by winodog
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To: dubyaismypresident
I'd call it amazing....

In what way? lol

46 posted on 12/28/2002 11:14:59 AM PST by need_a_screen_name
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Would that be the Oakland-Los Angeles-Oakland Raiders?

Kinda cool, for the Bay Area. Two teams in it at the end.

Down in the greater Lost Angeles realm, we are the same at the end, as we were at the start--no dog, in this show.

(I've been a Raiders fan since the first Oakland timeframe-Plunkett, et al.)
47 posted on 12/28/2002 11:15:34 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Go Iggles!!!!!!!!!
48 posted on 12/28/2002 11:17:28 AM PST by Dog
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To: SamAdams76
I'm also rooting for the Bucs, if for nothing else so Brad Johnson can look at Daniel Snyder (owner of the Redskins) and give him the middle finger.



49 posted on 12/28/2002 11:17:41 AM PST by Brytani
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To: need_a_screen_name
Cuz it was improbable, bordering on mircaulous
50 posted on 12/28/2002 11:18:02 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: CanisMajor2002
Agreed.

BTW, I like my Raiders chances today against the Chefs* without Priest Holmes playing today.

* (intentional misspelling)

51 posted on 12/28/2002 11:18:25 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Brytani
The Bucs are thugs.....:-)
52 posted on 12/28/2002 11:19:00 AM PST by Dog
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To: CounterCounterCulture
This lifelong packers fan is going to be at the Jets-Packers game tomorrow in NJ!
53 posted on 12/28/2002 11:19:08 AM PST by Koblenz
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To: need_a_screen_name
Texas A&M
54 posted on 12/28/2002 11:20:58 AM PST by lonestar
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I like your Raiders today, but can they win by 8 or more?
55 posted on 12/28/2002 11:21:23 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident


LET'S GO, BROWNIES !!!
56 posted on 12/28/2002 11:21:45 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Agreed.

BTW, I like my Raiders chances today against the Chefs* without Priest Holmes playing today.

The "Chefs" will just have to win through the air! LOL It's a shame though, I wanted to see the Priest break some records. He was so close on several.

57 posted on 12/28/2002 11:22:50 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: Libertarian4Bush
I don't know if the Eagles will win the Superbowl but I've been saying for over a month now that they will go.

Guess I should be happy since they are in my division, but I'm still licking the wounds from my team once again having a horrible year. My all time favorite player retiring and losing to the Cowgirls yet again.

58 posted on 12/28/2002 11:23:00 AM PST by Brytani
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To: Koblenz
That should be a good one. Must-win for the Jets. Packers jockeying for playoff position, especially if the Eagles lose today, then they'll be going for the #1 spot. Otherwise, a first-round bye on the line. Go Pack.
59 posted on 12/28/2002 11:24:11 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I repeat! Shockey's aunt is a friend of mine. We've been following the kid since he was in high school--played wide receiver best I remember. I love to watch him after he catches the ball.
60 posted on 12/28/2002 11:24:58 AM PST by lonestar
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