Knights Templar to use latest imaging in search for Grail

New Zealand Herald ^ | 01/06/03 | The Independent (?)

[Diana Rose]

The way this thread has evolved I am just looking and hoping those vaults might be a good place to hide. I think that is the last place anyone would ever bother to look as many are to busy with other pursuits. :)

[CCWoody]

Woody, for crying out loud, I NEVER, NEVER, NEVER said that I don't believe that He died on the cross. What I've said was that I read a book (which YOU have NOT read) and one research hypothesis, BY THE AUTHORS...states that Mary Magdalene may have had a child by Jesus. IF this could EVER be proven to be true, I wouldn't have a problem with it....it wouldn't shake my faith. ~ Velveeta

And yet, when I quoted the Apostle Paul that any faith which denies the resurrection, you took it personally. Odd!

Of course, to have Jesus marry and have kids is clearly blasphemous. Funny that you can't see that.

I'M LYING about a Guardian UK article???? I provided you with the link Woody, did you read the article?? ~ Velveeta

Yep! You are insinuating that the Guardian is claiming that the Vatican may change the Bible so that Jesus did not die on the cross and that He may have married. I saw nothing of the sort in the articles, which I read. Yet, you would have us believe that they do. This is a lie.

I have NO IDEA, heck, maybe they'll add the Gospel of Thomas...maybe they'll tone the parts about Mary Magdalene being a prostitute. ~ Velveeta

Hey, maybe they will have Jesus not die on the Cross and you will have to change your faith entirely. Then you will truly have the shifty faith you seem to be demonstrating here.

Woody.

[wideawake]

Didn't call you a liar.

Telling you not to believe everything you read.

As far as questioning others' faith is concerned - someone who alters the Bible is obviously of questionable faith. And your post, on the slender evidence of a leftist newspaper article, accuses the Church of adding new material to the Bible on a whim.

[wideawake]

St. Irenaeus is reputable. Not every text attributed to him is, however.

There were many Pseudo-Irenaei.

[CCWoody]

Wanna dig in and have a shot at these people here who are defending blasphemy? Today's feature: Jesus married Mary and had kids.

[mgstarr]

There are times when I regret having started this thread... :-)

[Notforprophet]

Okay -

Do you believe that Jesus did not die on the Cross?

No, I believe that He DID die on the cross.

Do you believe that Jesus did marry a woman and had kids?

Not sure, although I believe it was possible, and even probable that he did.

[ET(end tyranny)]

What about his text Against Heresies?

[mgstarr]

http://www.stone-dead.asn.au/movies/life-of-brian/scene-05.html

[wideawake]

It's an excellent book.

[CCWoody]

So, why did you start this thread?

BTW, I am a former Anglican as well--Episcopalian, actually. I left that church because of some of the same things being passed off on this thread as interesting and fascinating.

[Velveeta]

Didn't call you a liar.

No, you didn't...Woody did. BTW, it's not just one leftist article.

[Velveeta]

Didn't call you a liar.

No, you didn't...and thank you for that.

[mgstarr]

I started it simply because I find the topic and the era fascinating. No hidden agenda on my part.

It took me a long time to leave the Episcopal church - too long. I finally found an Anglican denomination that was more in line with conservative religious principles.

Cheers.

[Velveeta]

LOL!

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Do you mean DeMolay has not been completely avenged yet?

[Notforprophet]

So I answered your queries, Woody... I'm waiting.

[RnMomof7]

Woody...I have come to the conclusion that the unregenerate wants to blaspheme the God of the Universe..this is a Mormon teaching part of the as man is god once was and the promise of godhood for them with many many wives to play with..so they need to have a married Jesus happily having celestial sex..heresy is heresy..blasphemy is blasphemy

Untill they are converted they will never know the truth..this is just one of the uglier lies..

[CCWoody]

So I answered your queries, Woody... I'm waiting. ~ Notforprophet

Be of good cheer, I am working on your answer. My cites range from Genesis to Revelation.

Woody.