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PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNS WETLANDS ACT
The Democrat.com ^ | January 07, 2003 | James L. Cummins

Posted on 01/09/2003 7:03:56 PM PST by Uncle Bill

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To: Howlin
shirley your a blinded fool!
421 posted on 01/10/2003 6:11:06 PM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: TLBSHOW
I didn't say a damn word about Jesse Lee Paterson. I'd bet he would probably be embarassed if he knew you were his new spokesman on FF.

I am disputing what YOU said last night in your OWN WORDS......you said Bush has SENT those two guys to meet with Jesse Jackson.

I asked you where that was printed........and you never produced.

Of course, you have continually said that Bush backs affirmative action....and when asked to produce proof of that.......you have failed to do so.

You have, however, said the following:

To: Howlin

Prove to me Bush isn't a liberal Republican advancing the commie rats agenda?

----snip-----258 posted on 12/21/2002 1:21 AM EST by TLBSHOW

There must be hundreds of questions out there, just hanging, that people have asked you to PROVE that you have ignored.

And nobody wonders why. They all know you're full of hot air and a disruptor.

422 posted on 01/10/2003 6:12:14 PM PST by Howlin (Right is right!)
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To: TLBSHOW
are both scheduled to appear

Now WHERE DOES IT SAY BUSH SENT THEM TO MEET JESSE JACKSON........like YOU SAID????????

423 posted on 01/10/2003 6:13:11 PM PST by Howlin (Right is right!)
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To: TLBSHOW
...but Campos' office did confirm that the SEC commissioner would be speaking at the awards luncheon.

What we have here is CNS claiming without using direct quotes, that Campos will attend.

424 posted on 01/10/2003 6:13:36 PM PST by FreeReign (keeping everybody's feet to the fire.)
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To: Howlin
Now WHERE DOES IT SAY BUSH SENT THEM TO MEET JESSE JACKSON

I see no indication of such either.

425 posted on 01/10/2003 6:15:16 PM PST by FreeReign (keeping everybody's feet to the fire.)
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To: FreeReign
Of course it doesn't.

It was a flat out lie that Todd used to bash Bush. He is a Bush hater; he doesn't like ANY Muslims or ANY blacks, regardless of what he says.

He pretends to be a conservative -- "holding feet to the fire" and all that -- but he is really a disruptor. This is NOT the first web site he's done this on. Spamming posts with ridciulous cutting and pasting.

He's been banned at all the other ones.

426 posted on 01/10/2003 6:17:57 PM PST by Howlin (Right is right!)
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To: Ben Ficklin
I don't disagree with your assesment, but understand that I didn't want to be accused of leaning the opposite way. I was responding in the broaest terms to a broad question by Luis and trying to include some consideration for FY 2002.

I wasn't complaining. IMO, I thought you were being objective.

427 posted on 01/10/2003 6:20:48 PM PST by FreeReign (keeping everybody's feet to the fire.)
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To: Howlin
Speaking of all those evil American Muslims, one of them intervened and stopped another Muslim from firebombing a Jewish Temple today..

Personally, I think it's just grand that we have the First Amendment to protect the religion of the good Muslim who intervened and also have laws to punish the violent Muslim who wanted to destroy the Jewish place of worship.

Of course the haters among us would have simply punished them both for their belief in a false God, making no distinction between the two.

428 posted on 01/10/2003 6:32:15 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (I am Bad Ash.)
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To: Jhoffa_
I'm with you on that.
429 posted on 01/10/2003 6:33:10 PM PST by Howlin (I miss my X)
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To: Howlin
I think allot of people are actually. It's just not worth dealing with the haters to most of them I bet..
430 posted on 01/10/2003 6:38:41 PM PST by Jhoffa_ ("Jhoffa_X" was my VERY FIRST tag line actually..)
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To: Jhoffa_
wimpycat has a new New Years resolution: ignore the kooks. I'm going with that.

I do however have to point out blatant lies.

431 posted on 01/10/2003 6:40:14 PM PST by Howlin (Ignore Todd Spam)
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To: Howlin
Oh right, wimpycat will have that one broke before the month's over.
432 posted on 01/10/2003 6:41:57 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (I know I couldn't resist myself.. I don't think I have the strength to hold out for 10 minutes.)
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To: carenot; Askel5; MissAmericanPie; DoughtyOne; Fred Mertz; nunya bidness; TLBSHOW; ...

BIOGRAPHY

John F. Turner
Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Oceans and International
Environmental and Scientific Affairs
Term of Appointment: 11/13/2001 to present

John Turner was sworn in as Assistant Secretary of State for Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs (OES) on November 13, 2001. In this capacity, he heads U.S. Department of State programs and activities concerning HIV/AIDS and other infectious diseases, the environment, climate change, oceans affairs, and science and technology.

Prior to his appointment as Assistant Secretary, Mr. Turner was President and Chief Executive Officer of The Conservation Fund, a national nonprofit organization dedicated to public-private partnerships to protect land and water resources. With the support of over 200 corporations, during Mr. Turner’s tenure the Fund protected more than 2.8 million acres of parks, wildlife habitat, and open space across America. Between 1989 and 1993, Mr. Turner served as the Director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, where he was responsible for expanding collaborative approaches under the Endangered Species Act, increasing wetland protection and establishing 55 new National Wildlife Refuges, the most of any administration in the nation’s history. He served for 19 years in the Wyoming State Legislature and is a past President of the State Senate.

Formerly, Mr. Turner served as Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Bank of Jackson Hole, and as Chairman of the Institute of Environment and Natural Resources at the University of Wyoming. Past Board of Directors’ affiliations include Northeast Utilities, the Land Trust Alliance, the National Wildlife Refuge Association, the Murie Center, and the Trumpeter Swan Society. He has served as an advisor to the Hancock Timber Resources Group, Argonne National Laboratories-West, the Yale School of Forestry, and the University of Michigan’s School of Natural Resources.

Awards presented to Mr. Turner include: the Times/Mirror Conservation Award, Chevron; National Wetlands Achievement Award, Ducks Unlimited; Sheldon Coleman Award, America's Recreation Roundtable; Audubon Stewardship Award, National Audubon Society, Western Region; President's Public Service Award, The Nature Conservancy; Conservation Achievement Award, National Wildlife Federation; Exemplary Service Award, American Outdoors; National Award, Take Pride in America, U.S. Department of the Interior; Citizen of the Year, Teton County, WY.

Among Mr. Turner’s publications are: The Magnificent Bald Eagle, Our National Bird, Random House; "The Private Lands Challenge: Integrating biodiversity, conservation, and private property," Private Property and the Endangered Species Act, University of Texas Press; "Land Use: The Forgotten Agenda," in Thinking Ecologically: The next generation of environmental policy, Yale University Press; and numerous other publications regarding wildlife conservation, outdoor recreation, and natural resource policies.

Mr. Turner received a Master of Science degree in Wildlife Ecology from the University of Michigan and a Bachelor of Arts degree in Biology from the University of Notre Dame. A native of Moose, Wyoming, Mr. Turner is a third-generation rancher who, with his brothers, operates the Triangle X Ranch in Grand Teton National Park. He and his wife, Mary Kay, are the parents of three children.

http://www.results.gov/leadership/bios/turnerj.html

John Turner -- Department of State

Assistant Secretary of State for Oceans, International Environment & Scientific Affairs

Prior to his current appointment, John Turner was President and Chief Executive Officer of The Conservation Fund, a national nonprofit organization dedicated to public-private partnerships to protect land and water resources. Between 1989 and 1993, he served as the Director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. He served for nineteen years in the Wyoming State Legislature and is a past President of the Wyoming State Senate. John is a graduate of the University of Notre Dame, and he received a Master of Science degree in Wildlife Ecology from the University of Michigan

Contact: 202-647-1554

Council on Environmental Quality


Spotted Owl Advocate Seeks Top Post From Bush

Testimony of Brent Blackwelder President, Friends of the Earth - Submitted to the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources
"Griles's nomination is particularly disheartening in light of recent reports that John Turner, former Wyoming lawmaker, friend of Vice President Cheney, and noted conservationist was also under consideration for the position. We have no doubt that Teddy Roosevelt would have cast a smile over the administration had it chosen to nominate a proven conservationist such as John Turner as second-in-command at the Department of Interior."

"the plan is to appoint liberal Republicans to key Assistant, Deputy Secretary and Director posts within Interior."
..."Central to this plan are attempts to name John Turner, President and CEO of the Conservation Fund, to the second most powerful post in the department, Assistant Secretary for Fish, Wildlife and Parks."

...Why is Turner in line for such a powerful post? Turner is a lifetime close personal friend of Vice President Dick Cheney. Turner has been appointed to the Interior Department Transition Advisory Team along with several allies such as Tom Kiernan, President of the National Parks Conservation Association (NCPA).

Turner's land trust is notorious for training cadres of environmental activists at its Conservation Leadership Network schools, which have been subsidized by Interior Department grant money under the Clinton Administration. Network graduates are trained in combining regulatory threats from federal agencies with the money of land trusts to harass property owners. The goal is to financially drain families and force them to sell their land at greatly reduced prices.

"John Turner's nomination would cut Gale Norton off at the knees," said Chuck Cushman, Executive Director of the American Land Rights Association (ALRA), who supports Norton. "It would defeat the purpose of naming Norton in the first place. "Because of his personal friendship with Cheney and Turner's environmental allies, he would have a separate power base independent of Norton, and could ignore and even reverse her directives," Cushman continued.

"Naming a Clinton Administration ally like John Turner to this key post would be a tragedy for private property rights, and would mean a continuation of Bruce Babbitt's land grabbing policies," Cushman continued.

Turner ally Tom Kiernan's involvement with the transition is "truly incredible," said Cushman. "His organization is adamantly opposed to broad based recreational use of the federal lands.

"NCPA's Annual Report proudly boasts of shutting down use of snowmobiles, tourist aircraft and automobiles in the parks. This greatly restricts families and senior citizens, and benefits only the environmental elite who can afford lengthy, expensive trips such as eco-tourist tours."

"President Bush has chosen John Turner to serve as Deputy Secretary of the Interior to Norton. Turner is the man responsible for listing the Northern Spotted Owl on the Endangered Species list, helping to devastate the timber industry."


Spotted-owl advocate seeks top Bush post - Environmental activist enjoys close relationship with vice president

Spotted-owl Advocate Seeks Top Bush Post Environmental Activist Enjoys Close Relationship With Vice President

Worldnetdaily
By Joseph A. D'Agostino
© 2001 Human Events
FEBRUARY 26, 2001

Property-rights defenders have mobilized to try to persuade President Bush not to name John Turner -- the man who made the Northern Spotted Owl into the most celebrated of all endangered species -- to a high-ranking post in the new administration.

Sources close to the process say that Turner is being considered for deputy secretary of the interior, assistant secretary of the interior for fish, wildlife and parks, or alternatively, as chairman of the President's Council on Environmental Quality, or CEQ.

Turner's greatest asset is that he is a longtime, close personal friend of Vice President Dick Cheney. His greatest liability, sources say, is that he is being opposed, inside the White House, by Karl Rove, Bush's top political adviser. Rove, a Utah native who has long lived in Texas, is said to have a Westerner's understanding of land-use issues.

As director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in the last Bush administration, Turner developed a reputation among conservatives as a radical environmentalist -- a reputation he carried with him when he left public office to serve as president of the Conservation Fund.

"He is being considered because he's a fly-fishing buddy of the vice president," said Mike Hardiman, legislative director for the American Land Rights Association, which has compiled a 60-page dossier on Turner. "If he were considered on his own merits, he would not be considered again in a Republican administration."

"We do not comment on personnel matters, as a matter of policy," said Cheney spokeswoman Juliana Glover when asked if Cheney was pushing Turner for an administration post. Turner serves on the Interior transition team.

"Turner has strong support from the environmental community," said Myron Ebell, director of Global Warming and International Environmental Policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. "Martha Marks of the Republican front group Republicans for Environmental Protection is behind him." An opponent of Gale Norton's confirmation as interior secretary, Marks, when asked by reporters on Jan. 15 to name a Republican she favored for interior secretary, answered, "John Turner."

Hardiman said that if Turner were appointed chairman of CEQ, deputy secretary of the interior or assistant interior secretary for fish, wildlife and parks, he could "work to neutralize Norton, especially because of his friendship with the vice president." (Although they want Turner frozen out completely, conservative environmentalists agree that if the vice president insists Turner get an administration post, the CEQ job would be the least harmful because, unlike the Interior Department, CEQ does not issue regulations, although its reports can stimulate new rules or legislative recommendations.)

Turner's connection with Cheney has deep roots: He served as best man at the vice president's wedding.

According to Hardiman and Ebell, Turner, as deputy secretary of the interior, could push to have his environmentalist friend Mike Brennan named as the department's top legal officer. Turner did not respond to repeated calls to his Conservation Fund office.

His record as an environmental activist includes:


433 posted on 01/10/2003 7:34:44 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Tancredo for President 2004
434 posted on 01/10/2003 7:40:31 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Uncle Bill
Good evening Bill,


check out this quote of the year from Howlin, so you know what I have to deal with. As if you didn't already know!
,,,,,,,
aristeides ASKS hOWLIN....

I see that once again you have failed to criticize Jesse Jackson. I wonder why.

Howlin ANSWERS WITH THE quote of the century!

To: aristeides

Why should I criticize him? I agree with him.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/820447/posts?page=61#61

lol



435 posted on 01/10/2003 7:40:48 PM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: MissAmericanPie; TLBSHOW
6 New Treaties Go To Senate - Assistant Secretary of State John Turner asked the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to ratify six new environmental agreements

Earth Day Statement by the President

President Calls for Conservation and Stewardship on Earth Day

The President's Commitment to Environmental Protection

Proposing a federal republic of Earth - "Past and present speakers at the Forum include: George Bush


Who Needs Earth Day?

What I Saw at Earth Day


The Einhorn Principle

Ira was King of the Hippies, a paunchy paragon of Radical Chic, Mr.Peace-and-Love-and-Flower-Power-Personified, a pot-smoking, LSD-popping, sex-happy counter-culture activist. Poet. Philosopher. Physics person. Psychic phenomenologist. Became a New-Age networker with CEOs and rocket scientists and whiskey heiresses and rock stars like Peter Gabriel. Sold them informational blueprints of the future. Launched our city's Earth Day celebration. Ran for Mayor of Philadelphia as a self-proclaimed Planetary Enzyme, a catalyst for global change. Lost. Even was a Fellow for one semester at Harvard's prestigious Kennedy School of Government."

Ira Einhorn: Psychedelic Unicorn of Death

Einhorn hosts Earth Day, April 1970

"I was involved in Earth Day. I founded Earth Day. I'm Mr. Earth Day"
Ira Einhorn - Source

436 posted on 01/10/2003 8:50:59 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
So, let's burn the phone lines up in protest. Freepers?
437 posted on 01/10/2003 9:33:00 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
You hear the same cricket stampede I'm hearing?

Contacting the White House

We need more money for education, for the children of course. For Earth Day and all environmental issues

438 posted on 01/10/2003 10:06:06 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
So? What happened with the "6 Treaties"?

Do you ever read the garbage you spam the site with?

And why do you dump all this crap into a thread and then call all the reliable GOP haters to come and pile on, while you run and hide?

Everything you trash the threads with is always years old and never has anything to do with anything.

Are you and the Birchers now trying to accuse Bush of stuffing Ira Einhorn's girlfriend into the trunk? What is your friggin' point, Uncle Tin Hat?

439 posted on 01/10/2003 10:59:22 PM PST by Deb
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To: Deb
They must be hurting if they drug you out.
440 posted on 01/10/2003 11:01:37 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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