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PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNS WETLANDS ACT
The Democrat.com ^ | January 07, 2003 | James L. Cummins

Posted on 01/09/2003 7:03:56 PM PST by Uncle Bill

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To: Uncle Bill
A typical meaty response.

And what of the "6 Treaties"?

441 posted on 01/10/2003 11:05:43 PM PST by Deb
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To: Deb
The issue is Bush's boy is promoting and pushing the legislation. What about Bush and his new tone compassionate conservative greenies hiring Mr. spotted owl? What about Bush, as usual, facilitating the communist environmental movement by signing the Wetlands Act, the subject of the thread? I assume you agree with Bush's leftism, and shifting the middle towards Marx. I don't find that exciting, maybe you do though. What Chauncy the Gardener puppet are you guys going to dump on us next? Bush selling out conservatives is nearly a weekly event. Where have you been? This isn't something new or imagined. Just business as usual. You should at least be just a little embarrassed that Bush is pulling the train over the cliff. Good grief. Understand Debbie?
442 posted on 01/10/2003 11:34:55 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
And what about the "6 Treaties"? What happened?

Try to focus. Wipe the spittle off your chin and put down "The New American" for a second.

443 posted on 01/10/2003 11:41:28 PM PST by Deb
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To: Deb
I think you got your answer and more. Step away from the keyboard.
444 posted on 01/10/2003 11:45:33 PM PST by Fred Mertz (UB just smacked you down, in case you didn't notice.)
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To: Uncle Bill
What about Bush, as usual, facilitating the communist environmental movement by signing the Wetlands Act, the subject of the thread?

Well someone disagrees with you but they are as idiotic as the Birchers

445 posted on 01/10/2003 11:47:36 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Fred Mertz
Take your limpy back to the other Bush-trashing thread and butt out.
446 posted on 01/10/2003 11:49:41 PM PST by Deb
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To: Fred Mertz
lol
447 posted on 01/10/2003 11:54:37 PM PST by TLBSHOW (keeping everybody's feet to the fire)
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To: Uncle Bill
President Bush and the biggest affirmative action case in a generation is on the plate this week!

Thanks for trying to get that thread back on track!
448 posted on 01/10/2003 11:58:14 PM PST by TLBSHOW (keeping everybody's feet to the fire)
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To: TLBSHOW
You speak wanker, ask the old poof about the "6 Treaties".
449 posted on 01/11/2003 12:02:28 AM PST by Deb
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To: Fred Mertz
The U.N. Convention to Combat Desertification was ratified by the U.S. Senate on October 18, but few Senators yet know that it has been ratified. Senator Craig Thomas (R-WY) introduced a package of 34 treaties, all of which were ratified by a show of hands -- no recorded vote.

Freepers Response

House Green Lights Major Enviro Bill - Legislation approved in final minutes, opponents work for defeat in Senate - NOVEMBER 19 2002
"Literally minutes before adjourning for the year, the House of Representatives without debate unanimously approved a $261 million-a-year legislative grab bag of goodies for environmentalists...

...Co-authored by Sens. Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Bob Smith, R-N.H., The American Wildlife Enhancement Act – S 990 – provides the wherewithal for massive land acquisition by state government agencies and non-profit groups, boosts the powers and status of the environmental organizations, and enacts a major amendment to the 1973 Endangered Species Act by adding a new designation – "species at risk" – to the familiar "threatened" and "endangered" categories. The establishment and expansion of several national wildlife refuges and a five-year rodent control program are thrown in for good measure.

The congressman responsible for its passage by the House last week was Rep. James Hansen, R-Utah. Although Hansen headed the House Resources Committee, to which the bill was assigned after it passed the Senate in December, he held no hearings on it. Instead, he kept it on a back shelf until 2:22 a.m. Friday, when he asked that the Resources Committee be discharged from further consideration of the bill and that it be placed on the calendar for a vote. Three minutes later – with major sections stripped from it – S 990 was on its way to the Senate. The same tactic was used for 14 other bills submitted for last-minute approval. Each was labeled non-controversial, placed on the consent calendar, voted upon, and sent to the Senate. This was essentially a rerun of the bill's passage by the Senate. On the evening of Dec. 22, at the end of one of the longest legislative years in decades, and with a mere handful of senators still present, Reid called for "unanimous consent" to pass S 990. The bill passed. "Who voted for and against the bill? No one will ever know. Was there even a quorum present? No one will ever know," wrote Henry Lamb, in an article in WorldNetDaily. Lamb suggested that the bill would be better named the "Screw-the-Landowner Act of 2001,"

Thieves In The Night

450 posted on 01/11/2003 12:17:32 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Thanks for proving what an empty sack you are.
451 posted on 01/11/2003 12:23:46 AM PST by Deb
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To: Uncle Bill; Deb
...naming a Clinton Administration ally like John Turner to this key post would be a tragedy for private property rights, and would mean a continuation of Bruce Babbitt's land grabbing policies," Cushman continued....

Chuck Cushman?

He's a legend. He's been fighting environmental extremism since the 1970s. There's a terrific mini-bio of him in Pendley's It Takes A Hero, detailing how much he's helped people who were about to lose their farms and jobs to the Green Machine. Ronald Reagan appointed him to the National Parks Advisory Board.

If Chuck Cushman says this appointment is wrong, you can take it to the bank.

452 posted on 01/11/2003 12:28:14 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Fred Mertz
Outrage in Montana

President Bush reversed six years of Republican efforts to wean farmers from huge government subsidies, signing into law this morning a bill that increased those federal payments by at least $83 billion

453 posted on 01/11/2003 12:29:42 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Howlin
When you have somebody on a forum who pretends to be a conservative misconstruing facts to suit his own agenda, it just makes it worse.
There are government officials pretending to be conservative who do that every day and they aren't on any forum! They don't need no steenkin' forum! They've got their own personal forums called "the press"!
My, my...you should visit the WOsD threads too. Tons of more folks doing just that there!
Misconstruing facts "to support agendas" is the current recipe for success. Didn't you get the memo?

Do you drink Evian water? Evian backwards is naivE.

454 posted on 01/11/2003 1:08:54 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Howlin; Fred Mertz
Honestly, even though we disagree, people at least respect you around here.

Why Fred, you've made it into "The Cult of Personality".

455 posted on 01/11/2003 1:14:10 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Uncle Bill
But, to the subject of the thread...
Reagan, Clinton, Bush...it doesn't matter. They're all just the latest in a long line of successors kowtowing to globally aspiring adherents...
The World Heritage Convention: 30 Years Old and Going Strong
Not only is the Convention a vital instrument for concrete action in preserving threatened sites and endangered ecosystems, it also enshrines what US environmentalist Russell Train, founding director of the World Wildlife Fund, called “the simple and yet revolutionary concept that throughout the world there exist natural and cultural areas of such unique value that they truly are part of the heritage, not only of individual nations, but of all mankind.” Writing in the Convention’s inaugural year, Train added: “It is an idea which gives eloquent expression through cooperative international action to the truth that the Earth is indeed man’s home and belongs to us all.”
Snip...The idea of creating an international movement for protecting the shared heritage of the world emerged after World War I in the work of the League of Nations. An international conference held in Athens in 1931 resulted in the first major initiative to stimulate international debate and cooperation on conservation issues, the Athens Charter. The next milestone came after World War II, with a treaty aimed at preventing the destruction of heritage in times of war. The Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict, also known as the Hague Convention, was adopted in May 1954.
"Conservation is by definition a long-term mission. We don’t do it for a year or two, we do it forever." World Heritage Centre Director Francesco Bandarin (something about a boot and a face come to mind...)

It all goes back to the UN!
!NUTS

456 posted on 01/11/2003 1:48:07 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Uncle Bill; Deb
Uncle Bill, here's a graphic tribute to your dementia. I call it "These Little Things Remind me Of You":


457 posted on 01/11/2003 7:40:19 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Are you saying the CIA was behind those events?

No?

Then don't expect UB to respond.

(love the Jamaica bobsled team)

458 posted on 01/11/2003 3:11:50 PM PST by Deb
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To: Deb
"(love the Jamaica bobsled team)"

Next to Dukakis in the tank, that could be the worst man-made disaster of our times.

(with the exception of what you did to Uncle Bill on this thread that is...)

459 posted on 01/11/2003 4:39:51 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: philman_36; MissAmericanPie
Is Al Gore Manning the Bush EPA?

CAPITALISM MAGAZINE.COM
by Michelle Malkin
August 13, 2001
Source

When the Bush administration lands on the same side of an issue as The New York Times editorial board, Sen. Hillary Clinton and the Sierra Club, it's time to clear out the cockpit. The administration's latest junk science decision should cause Bush supporters to wonder: Is Al Gore secretly manning the EPA?

Last week, Bush's Environmental Protection Agency ordered General Electric Co. to fork over nearly half a billion dollars to dredge up long-buried chemicals from New York's Hudson River. That's exactly what the Clinton-Gore administration proposed in an eleventh-hour decree last year -- despite heated opposition from local residents, flimsy evidence of harm from the chemicals, probable injury to the natural habitat, and certain damage to the economy.

This massive, federally mandated cleanup will ruin the landscape and cost precious jobs in blue-collar communities along the river, but it will keep Beltway bureaucrats, lawyers and eco-whiners employed for decades. "This is a tremendous environmental victory," crowed Chris Ballantyne of the Sierra Club. A Times editorial called EPA chief Christie Todd Whitman's decision "admirable." Sen. Clinton declared dredging "the right position, based on the science, to take."

The pro-dredgers claim that PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls) embedded in the river bottom pose a grave cancer risk and must be completely eliminated. GE produced the chemicals in the manufacturing of electrical transformers. The company legally disposed of its PCB-contaminated waste into the Hudson from the 1940s until 1977, when the chemical was banned.

Since that time, the tainted sediment has been buried by layers and layers of mud. Commerce and tourism on the banks are healthy; locals swim freely and safely in the river; and at least one town along the targeted area taps the river for drinking water. A review of the current scientific literature shows there is no credible evidence of increased human cancer risk from exposure to trace levels of PCBs. Studies of workers exposed to high PCB levels and studies of people who ate PCB-contaminated fish showed no increased cancer risk when compared to non-exposed populations.

Now, it's true that PCBs can cause cancerous tumors in animals -- but only after you inject enormous doses of the chemical into lab mice over prolonged periods. "But what about the fish?" the enviros wail. What about them? Thanks to sensible, minimally disruptive remediation efforts over the past three decades, fish populations are thriving. That might not be the case if the Clinton-Gore-Bush-Whitman plan goes through.

The proposed "cleanup" would involve dredging some 2.65 million cubic yards of contaminated sediment from the Hudson -- 19 hours a day, six days a week, six and a half months a year for an estimated five years. At least two new hazardous waste plants would be built on the river or its banks to process the PCBs, and an estimated 45,000 tons of waste a day would be hauled out to non-existent landfills (sure to be opposed by the same NIMBY enviros that created this mess).

According to the grass-roots activist group CEASE (Citizen Environmentalists Against Sludge Encapsulation), which has opposed dredging for nearly a quarter-century, the EPA project would also destroy 97 acres of prime aquatic habitat, killing or displacing all of the creatures that live there, and destabilize or destroy 17 miles of Hudson River shoreline.

Tim Havens, a small businessman who heads CEASE, told me this week he was "overwhelmingly disappointed" in the Bush administration's decision to carry out the Clinton-Gore plan. Havens blasted the EPA's arrogant secrecy and shoddy science. Whitman has never visited the affected counties and didn't even pay residents the courtesy of informing them of the decision before telling the press.

"We're staunch Republicans in these communities -- working class citizens, small businesspeople, farmers, homeowners and housewives," Havens told me. "We're the backbone of the American economy, and we thought Bush and his people would be a lot friendlier. They decided to take the easy way out." Havens warns: "We'll remember in November" when Bush ally and dredging proponent, GOP Governor of New York George Pataki, is up for re-election.

On the science, economics and politics of this dredging debacle, one thing's crystal clear: The Bush administration has mucked up big time.

460 posted on 01/12/2003 1:03:24 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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