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Four Marines Killed In Helicopter Crash In South Texas
MSNBC

Posted on 01/23/2003 4:32:56 AM PST by leadpenny

Breaking News at the bottom of the screen. No on-air report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borderpatrol; drugskill; marines; militarizedborder; usmc; wod
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
That would explain why the Marines were working so far from their base at Camp Pendelton and out of Ft. Bliss, TX.
21 posted on 01/23/2003 6:27:30 AM PST by leadpenny ($62,944, whose dollar is going to put it over the top?)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
That's a correct distinction not often noted these days.

Now, has anyone considered that they might have taken fire or been avoiding fire?

If Solo Gringo is still on...
Has there been any kind of skirmishing down there? Marines or otherwise?

22 posted on 01/23/2003 6:31:29 AM PST by norton
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To: norton
Has there been any kind of skirmishing down there? Marines or otherwise?>>>>>>>>

I'm in TX.....I know DEA usually spends more time along the
border after "harvest time".

I watched late TX news last night, and was on the 'puter
too. I find it a little strange this happened at 9:30
last night and we didn't hear about it until 6:30 this AM.
Dallas news starts at 5:00 AM
23 posted on 01/23/2003 6:43:42 AM PST by txdoda
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Assisting the Border Patrol? Wow! This is news in more ways than one!
24 posted on 01/23/2003 6:45:04 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: txdoda
Could it be because there was no distress call and the crash site was not located until this AM?

Here is what I don't understand: AH-1W's with all the IR and night vision devices seems like an expensive asset to be used for this activity. I'm not familiar with the mission, tactics or territory, but wouldn't something like the unmanned Predator drones be ideal for this type thing?

25 posted on 01/23/2003 6:48:36 AM PST by leadpenny ($62,944, whose dollar is going to put it over the top?)
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To: Dante3
RE post 7: The reason they have accidents is because they don't get proper flight time training. This has been the history of the military. X42 spent all training money on foreign intervention, and that may be what is going on now.
26 posted on 01/23/2003 6:48:44 AM PST by southland
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To: elfman2
Just back from checking the livestock.Yes our english lango is not spoken very close or often.But we are the second line of the gaurd here in my area.in fifteen years we have reported about 9 hundred sighting of funnie business.
27 posted on 01/23/2003 7:01:04 AM PST by solo gringo
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To: leadpenny
Could it be because there was no distress call and the crash site was not located until this AM?>>>>>>

Two choppers *lost* for hours....hopefully, DEA & BP are
better equipped than that......

They say lots of drugs are moved at night, so I'm sure
both DEA and BP are equipped with night vision devices.

I'm not close to the border......maybe "solo gringo" will
be back with some local news soon...
28 posted on 01/23/2003 7:02:39 AM PST by txdoda
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To: leadpenny
Tried to reach my kin folks that live in the village but no answer.will report any news i hear.
29 posted on 01/23/2003 7:02:56 AM PST by solo gringo
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To: txdoda
They haven't yet but they keep trying.
30 posted on 01/23/2003 7:04:26 AM PST by solo gringo
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To: leadpenny
These choppers are doing a great job.We hear and see them at nite because there is no city lites to get glare.We feel safe with them here.
31 posted on 01/23/2003 7:07:53 AM PST by solo gringo
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To: solo gringo
fifteen years we have reported about 9 hundred sighting of funnie business. >>>>>>>>>

sheeesh...that's about two a month, every month, and your
about 40 miles from the border ???

Any more "local news" ?? What time did you hear about this
accident??
32 posted on 01/23/2003 7:11:35 AM PST by txdoda
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To: txdoda
We heard the choppers shut down about 10.30 to 11.00pm last nite thought they were finished with thier flights butt!!!!
33 posted on 01/23/2003 7:15:39 AM PST by solo gringo
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To: solo gringo
Will be out of pocket for a while.
34 posted on 01/23/2003 7:17:44 AM PST by solo gringo
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To: leadpenny
Prayers for those brave Marines and their grieving families.
35 posted on 01/23/2003 7:23:39 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: leadpenny
Mid air collisions between Cobras at night are very rare. How rare? I can't remember the last one.
Semper Fi
36 posted on 01/23/2003 7:29:30 AM PST by usmcobra
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To: leadpenny
The Border Patrol has used Marine Cobras several times in the past. They are used for drug interdiction as well as locating illegals crossing the border. RPV's or drones have been used as well.
37 posted on 01/23/2003 8:05:46 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: Ajnin
I'm not a big fan of placing the military on the border. However, when used in passive enforcement like we see with the use of Marine Cobras, I'm all for it.
38 posted on 01/23/2003 8:09:40 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: Ajnin
I'm not a big fan of placing the military on the border. However, when used in passive enforcement like we see with the use of Marine Cobras, I'm all for it.>>>>>>>>

Oh YES.....look how GOOD are "passive enforcement" of the borders has worked on our 30 year "war on drugs"....If we
maintain this same "passive enforcement" of our borders for the "war on terror", for the next 30 years (???), the USA
will then have a TERRORIST selling DRUGS on every street corner.....




40 posted on 01/23/2003 9:59:12 AM PST by txdoda
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