Posted on 01/26/2003 9:30:33 PM PST by Coleus
The same can be said of civilization, and civilized behavior.
It always amuses me to hear a Cardinal under the most Marian pope ever to call anyone pagan.
Are you sure he's saying that's a bad thing? Maybe calling Britain a pagan society is his way of saying, "any further work there is unnecessary."
I guess I'll have to read the article to be sure.
The mother of Jesus was, and is, no pagan. You dishonor your savior by saying as much.
I didn't say the mother of Jesus is a pagan. But the mother of your Jesus is different from the mother of my Jesus if you believe RC doctrine. Therefore your Jesus is not the same as mine. I'm comforted that my Jesus is the one from the bible.
This is funny too but you left out bigot. If you were a Mormon calling me hateful and ignorant I'd lose just as much sleep BTW. Why not shock me to death and show me that I'm wrong in saying that your Mary is not based on the bible. Show me how all of her RC attributes are expressly in the bible or show me how the bible says they don't have to be expressly in the bible to be true. Or just show me how the bible doesn't matter which is really what seems to be the case.
On what grounds do you believe in the Bible? Because it makes you feel good?
Do you even know how the Bible made its way into your hands?
On what authority do you decide what is Biblical and what is not? Are you a prophet or an apostle?
No reasonable grounds whats so ever. The exact grounds that I believe in Jesus.
Do you even know how the Bible made its way into your hands?
Yawn. Not the ole "We gave you the bible argument". In other words we gave it to you so don't go telling us to believe it.
On what authority do you decide what is Biblical and what is not? Are you a prophet or an apostle?
Wake me up when you want to open the pages.
Now we're getting somewhere. Why do you believe?
Um. Because in Honduras many years ago I asked a Christian what I have to do to go to heaven and he said believe in Jesus Christ. I walked away and believed.
That's descriptive, but not explanatory.
What convinced you? His manner? His conviction?
What convinced you? His manner? His conviction?
That's the mystery. He said very very little and he didn't say it particularly well, and I didn't like him. I was an athiest. I might as well have been Paul on the way to persecute Christians when suddenly a voice spoke to me. "No man can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him" John 6:44
Were you raised as a Christian, or were your parents atheists?
I answered this and the post didn't take?
My parents are flaming liberals and we only went to church a couple of times in my 18 years with them. It was a Methodist church, which I also don't think of as Christian. So I guess my parents remain a mystery to me.
I was unsure whether your parents were open atheists or simply irreligious - or if they had raised you as a Christian and you had never really been convinced, had fallen away, and then you experienced this authentic conversion.
So, getting back to the discussion - you took this man in Honduras at his word and experienced conversion to Christ.
How was Scripture involved? Did the man witness to you out of the Scriptures - showing you proofs of his teaching from them? What convinced you that Scripture was true and exclusive?
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