Teenager thrown 25 feet in air from Jeep grabs overhead wires until rescued

AP via Boston Glob ^ | 1/28/2003 15:55 | Margaret Stafford, Associated Press

[tom h]

From mason123:

"Oh yes, "tut tut" indeed. Just like a Christian to scold everyone else because, of course, you know best. Religious folks are all the same. It doesn't matter if you're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, whatever. Your God is in control and you know best. Where was your God on September 11? Allah sure kicked his butt that day. Or was the Christian God actually in control that day, too? If so, what message was he sending to Americans, "I hate you"?"

From VMI70:

"I dealt with this guy today on another thread, and I believe you are correct. He must be a DU sleeper."

VMI70:

He's not a sleeper, he's a loud-mouthed moron. Look at his reply above. He has all the logic and debating skill of a screaming child on the playground who uses taunting as means of verbal discourse.

My guess is that he's out of work, frustrated, and not getting la-d often enough.

VMI class of '70, huh? I've spent a lifetime working in the aerospace industry. Did you join a service branch? Send a Freepmail reply so moron123 can't eavesdrop.

[Ms. AntiFeminazi]

Looks like it may have knocked him out of his shoes too. wow.

[demosthenes the elder]

we can ever count on you for the appropriate bon mot

[Rightly Biased]

Uh, if God was really in control, wouldn't the accident have been avoided in the first place?

To understand Gods sovreignty is to understand that yes he is in control,even if 'you' don't want him to be.

[perfect stranger]

mason123 signed up 2002-10-10.
This account has been banned.

[demosthenes the elder]

umm... it was only 25 feet, and he was essentially unhurt.
why did he not hang at full extension (assuming he was of normal height, that would be about 7.5 feet from the soles of his shoes to the death-grip on the wire) and drop the measely 18 feet to the ground? I mean, he'd already proven that luck was with him that day... and even if his luck went bad, the worst he'd have suffered'd be a sprained ankle.
*shaking head... I used to jump off buildings taller than that for fun, fer Lawdz sake*

[Rightly Biased]

Sure, just like the "lesson" he taught 3000 people in New York on September 11. God sure is good.

God is in control and yes He is Good all the time!! Try to understand His Sovreignty and who He is. He allows sin and lets these things happen. He dosen't like it but He does allow it. He wins in the end anyway.
Regards
RB

[Rightly Biased]

Been Banned? He must of been disrupting on some other threads?

Now you tell me!!

[William Tell]

r9etb said: "I still wanna know how fast a jeep has to be rolling to toss a guy that high in the air."

The vertical component of his velocity after the impact would have to have been approximately 40 feet per second or 27.3 miles per hour.

[Preech1]

Here's a link to that story
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/193963/detail.html

[demosthenes the elder]

minor nag: "...would have HAD to have been..."
you are also assuming flat terrain.

[William Tell]

demosthenes the elder said: 'minor nag: "...would have HAD to have been..."
you are also assuming flat terrain.
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I think that you may be right about the grammar. However, I apparently make this error so frequently that it sounds correct to me. My two years of Latin is now forty years in the past. The usual way I would decide a question like this is to examine the Latin grammar. I think that the problem stems from the "overloading" of the words "have" and "had". That is, having more than one grammatical use for each word; e.g. "I have a headache" and "I have taken aspirin". The first is a verb in and of itself, whereas the other is used to form the "perfect" form of the verb "to take".

As for the calculation of the vertical component of the man's speed, I make no assumption regarding terrain except that he ends up 25 feet higher vertically than where he started and at a zero velocity hanging from the wire.

The physics of how his upward momentum came about is not completely clear. Since the other car turned in front of him, one may assume that none of the man's momentum came from the other car, but rather was from a transfer of momentum from his own car or part of his own forward momentum.

[JudyB1938]

I can't figure out why he didn't hand-walk over to the pole and shimmy down either. But kids don't learn how to do things like that any more, I guess. When I was a kid, we shimmied up/down utility poles all the time and jumped off roofs. None of us ever got hurt.

[VMI70]

It appears that moron123 is taking a well deserved permanent vacation from FR, so we don't have to worry about replies from him.
To answer your question, yes, in the Engineers.
I spent a year at the Night Vision Lab at Ft. Belvoir, VA,
and a year in Viet-Nam.

[Plutarch]

''I just kept saying a prayer over and over,'' he said Tuesday from his home in the suburb of Blue Springs.

Three preachers were talking prior to a conference, a Catholic priest, a Baptist minister, and a Pentacostal minister. They were discussing the best posture for prayer. The Catholic priest said "I pray best kneeling at grasping my rosary beads". The Baptist minister said: "I pray best laying prone on the ground, with my joined hands pointed skyward." The Pentacostal minister said: "My best prayer is standing upright, eyes closed, facing up, with my outstretched arms swaying rhythmically."

At this conference there was an electrician setting up the sound system, who had overheard the preachers. "I don't know about you gentlemen, but I do my best praying hanging upside down from a telephone pole."

[tom h]

"I spent a year at the Night Vision Lab at Ft. Belvoir, VA"

Interesting coincidence -- I worked for the Night Vision Directorate at Ft Monmouth as program manager for some threat warning systems in the early 1990s -- the APR-39A family of systems for Army and USMC helicopters.

As for moron123 ... well, it was I who reported him. I'd never done it before!!! I kinda figured he would get a warning because while he was obnoxious, he wasn't overtly a DU-loving, liberal d-ckhead. But maybe his other posts were more revealing. One more cockroach destroyed ...

[demosthenes the elder]

by the "assume flat terrain" I meant that you assume the base of the pole is on a level with the road surface from which the human projectile was launched. If, however, the road is elevated in comparison to the base of the pole (or ground under the spent projectile's feet) then the calculation is in error. No way of knowing without a scene survey, but you are clearly making an assumption and the calculation is based on insufficient data.
in respect,
dem

[William Tell]

demosthenes the elder said: "..you are clearly making an assumption and the calculation is based on insufficient data."

The only data I used was the following:"A teenager was catapulted at least 25 feet in the air ..."

Regardless of any horizontal components or terrain details, the teenager was in a parabolic path of some sort with its vertex at least 25 feet vertically above the point at which he began free flight. Assuming it was only just 25 feet, one may then calculate the time to reach the vertex and the initial vertical component of the velocity. Gravity takes care of everything once the free flight begins. ( This does ignore air resistance, but at 27 mph it wouldn't be much. )

I am not understanding how terrain details would modify the 25 feet into something else. Please feel free to explain.

[okie01]

"Don't Jeeps have roll bars on top so they won't collapse?"

Yes. And you can see it in the picture in post #13.

It's the black frame immediately behind the yellow passenger side window-frame. The rollbar appears 100% intact.

[demosthenes the elder]

"Regardless of any horizontal components or terrain details, the teenager was in a parabolic path of some sort with its vertex at least 25 feet vertically above the point at which he began free flight.

XXX - that's where you make the assumption. He was in a parabolic path which TERMINATED about 25 feet above the ground UNDER WHERE IT TERMINATED. Near where I live, there is a stretch of road where the road surface is several feet above the tops of the telephone poles running paralell to the road. Do you see the point now?