Posted on 01/29/2003 1:56:56 PM PST by knighthawk
FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida: The head of a group that claims to have produced the world's first human clone insisted under oath Wednesday that the baby exists and said the girl is in Israel, not the United States.
Clonaid President Brigitte Boisselier also said she had only seen the child, nicknamed Baby Eve by the company, on videotape. Her testimony led a judge to throw out a guardianship petition involving the child.
When Boisselier announced late last month that Clonaid had produced a healthy human clone, she promised that independent DNA testing would prove the claim in about 10 days.
But she later backed away, saying the Florida guardianship petition had scared Eve's parents and they were refusing to allow testing for fear the baby would be taken away.
Experts have say that without the tests, the cloning claims can't be validated. Some believe the whole thing is an elaborate hoax by the religious sect behind Clonaid, a group called the Raelians that believes life on Earth was started by extraterrestrials.
Circuit Judge John Frusciante on Wednesday threw out the Florida petition for guardianship, saying the court didn't have jurisdiction if, as Boisselier had testified, the child wasn't in the country.
He asked Boisselier to convey that the court was not interested in taking the baby away, but also briefly lectured her about cloning.
"You cannot pursue human cloning with impunity," the judge said. "All of us must not overlook the weakest among us."
Attorney Bernard Siegel had argued for the appointment of a guardian, saying cloning was inherently abusive because of the genetic problems encountered in other mammal cloning.
After the hearing, he said he hopes Israeli authorities investigate the case.
"My great concern was the welfare of this child being hidden from the world," Siegel said.
Clonaid attorney Jonathan Schwartz called the lawsuit "patently preposterous" because there was never any U.S. connection aside from the December news conference announcing the birth, which was held in Florida.
Clonaid, which says it retains philosophical but not economic ties to the Raelians, claimed last week that a third cloned child, a boy, had been born in Japan. It said clone No. 2, a girl, was born to a Dutch lesbian Jan. 3.
"There's a cloned sheep, a cloned cat, why not a cloned baby?" Schwartz said.
May you rot in hell forever, you sick, sick bastard.
Why is it important to prove that an embryo is an individual human being? Because embryonic stem cell harvesting and therapeutic cloning are cannibalizing human life.
The enlightened expect you to accept the notion that an embryo is not an individual human being. Yet the scientist seeks to conceive 'designer' individual human life --with therapeutic cloning-- and the goal of the scientist bears witness to the truth that they are conceiving a unique human being. Giving tacit acceptance to a proven lie is bad enough -weve done this for thirty years-- but to embrace cannibalism founded on such a lie is far more degenerate than breaching moral or ethical dilemmas.
Tacit acceptance of science manipulating individual human life has lead from in vitro fertilization to partial birth infanticide, proving the bankruptcy of continuing moderate acceptance. We are now staring at cannibalism in the name of whatever you care to call it. Even an embryo no bigger than a grain of sugar is an individual human life. Is it acceptable to kill that individual for their body parts? If it is, that's cannibalism. If we do not accomplish a paradigm shift in the nation's perception regarding individual human life, two very unpleasant leviathans --embryonic stem cell exploitation and therapeutic cloning-- will devour what remains of our nation's goodness.
In the 50s DJ Jen Shepherd created a wholly fictious book I, Libertine and by manipulating booksellers and critics across the USA got the unseen and non-existant work onto the best seller lists (and banned by the Diocese of Boston).
In 1910 Horace Cole convinced the Royal Navy to give a formal reception on HMS Dreadnought to a group disguised as "The Emperor of Abyssinia and his retinue".
These people just issued a media release.
Elaborate hoaxes just aren't what they used to be
I'm thinking there is no Raelian cloned baby -- not in Isreael, not anywhere. Like all Islamists, the Raelians are pathological liars.
The Raelians also claim: "Furthermore, over 4,000 Palestinian prisoners are presently incarcerated in concentration camps and being interrogated under torture. There is even a project underway to cremate not only the rotting corpses but also those still in a coma, or unconscious due to their treatment, so as to completely eliminate all evidence of torture.The Raelians also claim to have cloned a human child.
Marc Lavoie, International Raelian MovementThe Raelian site is hosted by EV1.NET in Houston Texas. (Also home of Stormfront.org and the Texas Knights of the Klu Klux Klan).
C.P.86 , Succ. Youville
Montreal, Quebec
Now that was an elaborate hoax. Irving launched it assuming Hughes was senile, or possibly dead. And he came quite close to pulling it off.
are we getting close?
Matt 24:15
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)...
1 Cor 3:16-17
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
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