How to Buy a Gun

Every Thought Captive ^ | 2002 | A.K. Fortyseven

[Riley]

<<Some recent research has suggested that in a high-stress situation, perceptual narrowing usually occurs and the brain "shuts down" that kind of input. Many individuals in shootings report that they never even heard their own shots.

Never seen that particular elephant myself, so your mileage may vary. In any event, take it into account before risking your upper frequency hearing on that little experiment. (I wouldn't suggest it with a ported Magnum, certainly),
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Good things to consider. I have heard close range gunfire in an enclosed environment, and the noise is almost a physical slap. I have some blown hearing already, but my high-freq is still good enough that neighborhood cats walking through the backyard actually wake me up.

Interesting research- I'll look into it.

[Joe Brower]

There's an old rule about calibers: The best one is the one you have on you.

We all have our favorites, but when it comes to concealed carry, there are many factors to be considered to determine what is optimal, and as those conditions change, so do the selection. For example, as much as I like my Sig P229 in .40 S&W, I'm not going to carry that here in Florida in the summer when wearing anything heavier than shorts and a tank-top will quickly reduce one to a puddle of perspiration. During the winter, though, my Sig goes everywhere I do, no problem.

With the developments in ammunition over the last decade, just about anything, even a .22lr (check out CCI's "Velocitor"), will work when you quickly dump the entire magazine into the goblin at five yards. At the very least, it will screw up the BG long enough for you to beat a hasty retreat!

[lawdude]

"by all means call the calvary, but be prepared to defend yourself until then....."

Call 911 while you reload!

[AnAmericanMother]

Many individuals in shootings report that they never even heard their own shots.

I can vouch for this. I shot my first deer from an enclosed tree stand, without hearing protection. Ruger M-77 in .308. Should have reverberated and echoed like anything.

I never heard a thing. So it probably would be about the same inside a house . . .

[Riley]

<<Most ant-gun people I know say that the Police will come to their aid, however these very same people have fire extinquishers in their home....hmmm, shouldn't they just call the Fire Dept. to come to their aid then?
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That is brilliantly stated. I plan to use that the next time I get into an argument with a mush-head anti.
Even *THEY* ought to understand that.

[ProudGOP]

expect the 9mm and .45 ACP contingents to soon show up here to deride the .380 as a mousegun.

What about the S&W angle? Last I knew, no self respecting conservative would buy an S&W.

[harpseal]

My advice is to go to a gun range which rents guns and try a number of different calibers and styles. Then one makes one best judgement as to what one can afford and what the suitablity is for the intended use. If concealed carry on one's person is not one of the requirements then larger framed guns might well merit more consideration. In general one should purchase a gun of a make model and type that one can shoot comfortably and accurately. Caliber selection should be based on what one can accurately shoot. In general by choosing .380 or above one has given oneself a higher probability of stopping an assault with one shot than if one chooses a smaller caliber round. There are many opinions about what is the best caliber for stopping an individual with one shot. Personally I think the .45acp gives the best overall performance this way although the .357 magnum may be as good or better.

A revolver is probably the simplest sidearm to operate point and click and the job is done. A semi-automatic has the advantage of usually more shots and quicker to reload. Although some revolvers have eight or nine shots these days, some semi-autos have up to 17 in the magazine.

Just remember a .22LR slug in the brain of an assailant will do a whole lot more to stop said assailant than a .44 magnum bullet in the wall.

Another consideration is the cost of practice ammunition. A .357 magnum allows one to use relatively inexpensive .38 spl ammunition rather than the more expensive .357 ammunition. These considerations very much affect such calibers as .40 S&W, .357 Sig etc. For full bore defensive sidearms the .45acp and the 9mm Parabellum round seem to have the most relatively low cost ammunition available.

What do I carry usually? The answer for me usually is a ten shot magazine .45 acp. I have also at times carried a 9mm, a ,38spl, a .357 magnum, and some other sidearms.

[Crowcreek]

"ammunition is not to be thrown in fires"

LOL- That would make a good 'Surgeon General's Warning" for ammo boxes!

Your UZI sounds like a potent package -- lighter than a shotgun, with more range. But you can't hunt birds with it! (Can you?)

[Marauder]

I took my little Keltec 9MM to a range and fired three boxes of shells through it, and experienced a consistent "nosedive" jam when the clip was down to four rounds.
I bought a couple of new magazines and haven't had a jam since. Its size makes it a great little carry piece.
For under the seat in a vehicle, the new Keltec SU-16 would make a great little defense rifle, if it is reliable. It uses standard M16/AR15 mags (.223 cal), and folds in half for storage. The forestock folds out to become a bipod, and there's a slot for an exra mag in the shoulder stock.

[WhirlwindAttack]

Don't obtain a concealed-carry permit

Do get your permit if your state allows it. If not move to where you can carry a sidearm.

I don't leave home without mine.

[from occupied ga]

But you can't hunt birds with it! (Can you?)

I never tried. Legally in GA you're not supposed to use any full auto weapon for hunting, but with the coyotes getting more numerous ... :-)

[JoeSixPack1]

I'll turn in my S&W .40 right after I gain the label "conservative activist". Until then, it remains snuggled in my shoulder holster at body temp.

[harpseal]

See my 27 I have never ever derided the .380 as a mouse gun. I personally prefer to carry a .45acp but to each thier own.

[Puppage]

Thanks. It is also great to use with people who are totally against the idea of armingpilots. They say "they're too busy flying the plane." And, I say well then WHT are there fire extinquishers in the cockpit? Surely id a fire breaks out..the pilots will be too busy flying to do anything about it. Then, ya hear the crickets during their silence. LOL

[Old Mountain man]

Gee, I don't know about that. The neatest murder I ever saw was done with a .25 auto with one shot, 15 foot range by a very angry wife. Husband was reported to have said, "I'm hurt real bad", then sat down on couch and died.

I wanted to hire her to teach marksmanship but we had to charge her with murder.

[xsrdx]

BANG!

[Fiddlstix]

.......however these very same people have fire extinquishers in their home....hmmm, shouldn't they just call the Fire Dept. to come to their aid then?

Well Said!
A great point!

As far as all 'round home defense, I like the 'ol tried and true 12 ga. shotgun

[Cicero5]

Uzi is cool and I respect your opinion. Here's the problem...the government knows you have it because of the Class III BATF. A shotgun they don't know about. I'd love to have some of the Class III weapons but my distrust of Hillary and her ilk someday getting a list of gun owners prevents me from doing so.

for me its a 12 gauge full size and I have a .410 with a short barrel and a pistol grip. It's handy and it fits in a bug-out bag along with the MREs and first aid kit.

[Puppage]

Mister 12ga. is a good friend, too.

[Crowcreek]

Coyotes!!? Can you hit a coyote with an UZI?

How accurate is it in slow fire -- ballpark figure, and try to be fairly honest here . . .