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Hoffman blasts Bush's war plans (Hollyweird Alert!!!!)
AnnaNova.com ^ | 06 Feb. 2003 | Staff Writer

Posted on 02/06/2003 7:01:46 AM PST by txradioguy

Hoffman blasts Bush's war plans

Dustin Hoffman has become the latest US star to voice his opposition to war with Iraq.

Dustin Hoffman arrives for the Empire Film Awards /PA

Hoffman accused the Bush administration of "manipulating the grief of the country" after the events of September 11.

The president's real motives for going to war are power and oil, he said.

He spoke out after receiving a lifetime achievement award at the Empire Film Awards in London.

"For me as an American, the most painful aspect of this is that I believe that that administration has taken the events of 9/11 and has manipulated the grief of the country and I think that's reprehensible," he said.

"I don't think, like many of us, that the reasons we have been given for going to war are the honest reasons.

"If they are saying it's about the fact they have biological weapons and might have nuclear weapons and that gives us the liberty to pre-empt and strike because we think they might hit us, then what prevents Pakistan from attacking India, what prevents India from attacking Pakistan, what prevents us from going into North Korea?

"I believe - though I may wrong because I am no expert - that this war is about what most wars are about: hegemony, money, power and oil".

Hoffman pointed out that the US had once funded Saddam Hussein's regime even as he killed tens of thousands of Kurds. He added that he believed all politicians were incapable of telling the truth.

"If I was asked what is the most important aspect of being a politician, I would say getting re-elected. And when that's the goal, then all bets are off with the truth".


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To: txradioguy
Damn. My second favorite movie of all time I have on tape. THE GRADUATE is going into the trash.
41 posted on 02/06/2003 8:22:24 AM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits)
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To: doug from upland
I feel for you, I had to toss Bull Durham, Hunt For Red October
Silverado and a couple others as well.
42 posted on 02/06/2003 8:26:56 AM PST by txradioguy (Happy Birthday President Reagan!)
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To: txradioguy
Whenever Dustin, the quintessential over-actor, is struck with such an episode of megalomania, he should be tied to a chair and forced to watch "Ishtar" over and over again.
43 posted on 02/06/2003 8:37:56 AM PST by Dionysius
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To: txradioguy
You folks are overlooking the obvious. These "stars" make money by being cast in roles. There is a direct correlation between being cast and being noticed. They get noticed with publicity. Normally that is in celebrity oriented rags, as well as National Enquirer and World Weekly News. They have "agents" part of whose job is to make sure that they are listed as having lesbian affairs, going into rehab, or having sex with Elvis. But getting their face and name out in the mainstream media is even better.

Hoffman, whatever his faults, is no dummy. He sees the publicity that other "stars" have gotten by being critical of the Bush administration and the war preparations. So, he takes advantage of a forum and spouts off provacative statements. He gets plenty of attention. Which is his ultimate goal.

44 posted on 02/06/2003 8:42:13 AM PST by dark_lord
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To: txradioguy
"I believe - though I may wrong because I am no expert -

You're wrong.

that this war is about what most wars are about: hegemony, money, power and oil".

As opposed to those wars about using the blood of American servicemen to cover Presidential semen stains, I suppose?

45 posted on 02/06/2003 8:46:39 AM PST by Denver Ditdat
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To: dark_lord
"So, he takes advantage of a forum and spouts off provacative statements. He gets plenty of attention. Which is his ultimate goal."



Ahhhh, the old adage that "there is no such thing as bad publicity."
46 posted on 02/06/2003 8:54:42 AM PST by txradioguy (Happy Birthday President Reagan!)
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To: Dionysius
the quintessential over-actor

I couldn't agree more

47 posted on 02/06/2003 9:06:46 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: dark_lord
The Hollywood liberals were very upset over the defeat of the democrats in the last election. Bush is very popular, and they are afraid of the solid right wing government. In addition, lots of our allies were offended by our cowboy attitude. Thanks to Mr. Blair, and Mr. Powell, soft sells and diplomacy works. Mr. Bush was made to understand that respecting other countries sensibility is essential to getting them on board.

The point that the Bush administration and the media failed to outlines is; A DEFEATED DICTATOR WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WILL CONSTANTLY ATTEMPT REVENGE! His regime must be taken out, to be able to reallocate the Iraqi wealth to serve the Iraqi people and not the ego of a defeated tyrant. The rest of the Moslem haters, their turn is next! Reform, or be killed! This should be done with the help of the international community, and with diplomacy of the likes of Powell!

Our friends in France, Canada, Germany, Australia, Mexico, …... must never be insulted by cowboys and neocons! I guess Bush learned to speak now without projecting the image of a bully. We must work with the our allies to show that revenge plotting by the Moslems underground MUST be eliminated. The Islamic hate and its funding must be stopped! The politically correct media, including the Bush White House should never shy away from saying ISLAMIC terrorists. Islam MUST reform, or be branded illegal. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

48 posted on 02/06/2003 9:16:09 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: txradioguy
By the way, my favorite movie is RUNNING MAN. MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD now moves up to No. 2. Fortunately, I haven't heard Sid Caesar, Mickey Rooney, Jonathon Winters, Phil Silver, Spencer Tracy, Buddy Hackett, Milton Berle, Dick Shawn, Ethel Merman, Jimmy Durante, Jim Backus, Dorothy Provine, Buster Keaton, Jerry Lewis, et al make anti-American comments.
49 posted on 02/06/2003 9:29:02 AM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits)
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To: txradioguy
And you know, that's what really makes me mad at these weirdo's. I LOVE them as actors, but once I see their anti-American bash Bush stance, I find myself wanting to make a bonfire of my VHS tapes.

I've been a movie lover all my life, and lately these people have made it such a chore.

In an attempt to answer the question why does Hollywood seem to attract, or create so many far left views, I have a theory, and it has to do with the psychological effect related to HOW wealth is acquired. Simply put, HARD EARNED money, earned from sweat, dedication and acumen OVER TIME tends to provide the earner with more satisfaction than say, the opposite, which would be money earned relatively QUICK AND EASY.

It has now been revealed that lottery winners don't derive the happiness that we would all expect from such good fortune. Since the money is acquired from sheer luck, other family members feel they have more right to lay their own claim. The money seems to come with a great deal of guilt attached for the winners, creating the penchant to spend it unwisely. Many times misery reigns where a life of happiness is presumed.

If the inference that there is some connection between happiness with wealth and the quantity of luck involved in acquiring it, then more light can be shed on the Hollywood delemna by examining professional sports. Here is a group, just like Hollywood actors, who have found great and sudden wealth at a very young age, and have to deal with the same glare of lights and the taxing weight of fame. How many left-leaning pro sports stars can you name?Surely there are some, it's just difficult to conjure up a list of names. We could all rattle off ten or fifteen obviously socialist Hollywood stars without resorting to a google search.

So what's the difference?

There are an awful lot of talented people in Hollywood, and I don't mean to say that most of them have had not had to toil, sometimes more than a few years, but there is in my mind, a much higher component of "genetic providence" in Hollywood than in the world of athletics. To be able to hit a major league curve ball, shoot a three pointer with the accuracy of a laser, or throw a football to a perfect spot in the hands of a fleet receiver cannot be achieved without years of toil, repetitive practice, and intense determination against a whole regiment of like-minded competitors. It may not seem like it, but the achievements of pro-athletes have a high component of hard work, and almost zero parts luck. For the most part, the lefties we seem to hear from most were born into Hollywood. George Clooney and Ed Begley Jr. may indeed possess some talent, but even they must admit their good fortune at having had relatives who were already there.

It's not so much that they feel above us as they don't really feel they are LIKE us. Rich actors always have felt guilty, and the left's allure always has been good at assuaging it, providing a sense of worth through membership. The left provides the 'warm fuzzy' that cannot be acquired absent the utopian visions therein, speaking out about leftist causes obviously fills a great void, a vacuum created, I believe, by the trauma of unearned riches.

50 posted on 02/06/2003 9:46:35 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: txradioguy
Great article in the Observer about Hollywood

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/837351/posts
51 posted on 02/06/2003 11:39:23 AM PST by Republican Red
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To: txradioguy
Dustin Hoffman blasts 'reprehensible' war (additional info)

Check this out:

"I thought when they said it was the Empire awards, that they meant the British Empire giving them. So I wrote a speech, I worked on it, and then I realised it was a magazine."

52 posted on 02/06/2003 1:32:34 PM PST by weegee
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To: LoneGOPinCT
He probably doesn't even know where Iraq is.

He probably doesn't want the war in Iraq to spill over to neighboring Ishtar...

53 posted on 02/06/2003 1:48:55 PM PST by weegee
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To: txradioguy
Do these DJs secretly harbor desires to enter the arena of Talk Radio where their opinions can be questioned?
54 posted on 02/06/2003 1:50:36 PM PST by weegee
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To: Denver Ditdat
Including the deployment of troops while he was receiving "satisfaction" orally. What a disgrace X42 was to those men and women who's lives he controlled.
55 posted on 02/06/2003 1:55:48 PM PST by weegee
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To: philosofy123
I overheard a looney leftist at a nearby table at a restaurant yesterday. She said that if it wasn't for oil, we would be after dealing with Saddam.

There is truth to what she says. Without oil, Iraq would be Ethiopia. Iraq has money to fund Saddam's palaces and weapons projects because the nation has money. Without oil money, they would be another poor nation. Without the weapons, Saddam wouldn't pose a threat. So yes we must deal with Iraq because they have oil but we do not have to deal with Saddam beacause we "want to take" his oil. We did not take the Kuwaiti oil fields either.

56 posted on 02/06/2003 2:00:55 PM PST by weegee
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To: doug from upland
Just because many of those actors are dead, don't count the leftists out in saying that those actors are against this war.

Look to the DC protests where the anticapitalist/antiBush protestors said that MLK Jr. is against this war (this was his son, MLK III talking) and that President Lincoln opposes this war.

The dead vote left besides, the dead have nothing to fear from nuclear, chemical, or biological attacks. They don't use oil or have to "live" under dictatorships either. Terrorism isn't a concern of theirs either. Health care. That's their hotbed issue. If only the military budget could be channeled into healthcare keeping people alive and reviving the dead...

57 posted on 02/06/2003 2:05:48 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
If that's what they're doing, then they are lambs to the slaughter because they won't ever go national and be able to spout their liberal RAT poop.
58 posted on 02/06/2003 2:06:40 PM PST by txradioguy (Happy Birthday President Reagan!)
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To: wayoverontheright
Movie actors are America's aristocrisy. The masses bow down before them, can be dismissed rudely, and should not challenge their "betters".
59 posted on 02/06/2003 2:08:06 PM PST by weegee
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To: txradioguy
There are local call-in radio shows too. Just no market for them on commercial radio. Maybe the DJs should take a pay cut or find a different day job and move down the dial to commercial free looney leftist radio stations (NPR, Pacifica, etc.) or show their "faces made for radio" on public access television.
60 posted on 02/06/2003 2:11:30 PM PST by weegee
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