Assault rifles offer a bit too much for home defense

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[Squantos]

We tried that one in tests for our Explosive Ordnance Disposal teams needs. It was too big and the kinetic energy was too great for what we refered to as small munitions disruption aka SMUD duty. The Swedish HEI Raufaus .50 BMG round and AP or APIT met our needs and we also stayed with an American Manufacturer, Mr Ronnie Barrett.

But hey I do like that Steyr AMR......just can't get ammo for it in Texas.............yet :o)

Stay Safe !

[Squantos]

Yes, Agree the Barrett is like shooting a days worth of trap and skeet with regards to recoil. Well designed brake and recoil buffers and recoiling barrel makes it's recoil 12 gauge # 9 birdshot like per se......

As to the .460, I have observed a trend . When I give someone two rounds to shoot, they will usually give one of em back after the first is fired :o)

Stay Safe !!

[sneakypete]

but just in case you wanted to harden little pointed cylinders of T-15 steel, T-15 has to be heated to extremely high heat 2300F (white heat) and then plunged into water or oil.

Kiddies,don't try this at home! It is VERY dangerous to plunge anything this hot into either oil or water. In one case you can get fire,and in the other you get steam. Either one will require a trip to a burn unit. If you have never had any experience with metal-hardening through quenching,LEAVE IT ALONE!

[from occupied ga]

In one case you can get fire

True, but you most likely wouldn't be doing this unless you had just a wee bit o machining experience anyway. It's not like you can do this on your kitchen stove :-)

[SevenDaysInMay]

For home defense, one's castle dontchaknow, I am an advocate of the aim for lower center of mass/triple + one tap: a once or twice gut/groin shot perp will go down where the head shot will stop his immediate threat - all in a matter of a couple of heartbeats. I load #4 bunny, #2 goose, #4 buck, OOO, repeat. At hall + living room distances, a 20 is as good as a 12, as patterns will be at most little more than 6 inches.

Never assume that there is only one perp. These days I prepare for a gangs's "initiation" invasion. Reload at any pause. After dark, when alerted, I always loop over my head a 55 round (#4 buck) bandelero as I grab my loaded 12.

Set interior motion detectors with blinding 120 watt flood lights aimed away from your familiy's sleeping quarters toward doors.

[razorback-bert]

Some of us do live by the rule one can never ever have too many guns.

This is only one, I fished out of the great flood of '27, when I lost all mine.

[Long Cut]

Now THAT, coupled with a brace of big-bore revolvers and some good ammo, carried to Jurassic Park's safari-section, would DEFINETELY be accompanied by a big-a$$ charcoal grill, and some chainsaws for the carving! Not to mention a couple gallons of A-1, BBQ sauce, and Tabasco!

I bet the skins'd make you some DAMN nice boots, too.

[wku man]

Allow me to add my "Amen, bro!" to the list.

Scouts out! Cavalry Ho!

[wku man]

"The 7.62x39mm AK round is simply NOT the "all-powerful death-dealer" the media would sell it as."

You're right, and the .223 isn't a "high-powered" round as was widely reported back during the D.C. shootings. Anyone who's fired a .30-06 or bigger, and then a .223, could tell you the difference between "high-powered" and "high-velocity" (yes, the NRA has a "high-powered" category which includes the .223, but just because the NRA says it doesn't make it right).

I remember back in the late 80s, during media-induced hysteria over the Uzi carbine, one of the Commie networks showed an Uzi being fired at concrete blocks, which naturally disintegrated. They went on to talk about the "ultra-powerful 9mm bullet" as if it were a Phaser. Even on the rare occasion when someone in the media tries to tell the full story about firearms, they fail miserably.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[Long Cut]

Ever notice that ANY media story about ANY firearms always includes the words,"High-Powered" in it somewhere? I'm at the point where WHENEVER I see those words, I disregard the writer's story right off. Never do you hear those two words from ANYONE with even a passing knowledge of firearms.

On that note, have you seen the gyrations and heard the squeaking and beeping of some Leftist weaklings over the new S&W .50 cal revolver? This piece has them in a fear frenzy! Do a search on FR for the articles, it almost seems that those who are speaking out about this weapon are pissing their panties even as they speak!

[sneakypete]

It's not like you can do this on your kitchen stove :-)

You might be surprised at what some people will try.

[dogbrain]

for more on the Barrett "Payload Rifle"

[TXnMA]

That first shot really stung my palm although I knew it was going to happen.

Try adding one of those forearms with the pistol grip; I found that it really helps control and soften the felt recoil.

[Centurion2000]

Very nice ..... thanks for the link

[from occupied ga]

You might be surprised at what some people will try.

Nope I wouldn't be surprised - that's why they have the Darwin Awards. About 4 years ago a couple of bright lights from south of the border were working construction in Athens GA (about 50 miles from Atlanta) when they had trouble with the hydraulics on the bucket of their front end loader. They shut it off (with the bucket raised and full of dirt) got under the bucket and disconnected the hydraulic line. Scrunch. Both DOA. Look at it this way. If someone can't harden steel without damaging themselves, what are they likely to do reloading? Would you want to fire one of their reloads? I wouldn't.