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Humboldt County supes may close pot party beach
Modesto Bee ^ | 2/21/03 | AP

Posted on 02/21/2003 10:47:44 AM PST by hoosierskypilot

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:55:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Eureka(AP) - - If you're looking for a place to stage a pot party April 20th, don't bother coming to Clam Beach in Humboldt County. The county Board of Supervisors has been asked to close the beach that day because hundreds of people gathered last year for what's known as "420 Day."


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To: babaloo999
the Constitution as the law of the land.

That's a little confusing since I keep reading that they defer to state's rights concerning pot. Or is it because, concerning pot, libertarians don't see any conflict between CA laws and the constitution?

21 posted on 02/21/2003 12:21:48 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
Clam Beach is such a dirty white trash area; it is good that th police will shut thier a$$e$ down.
22 posted on 02/21/2003 12:25:47 PM PST by Porterville
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To: robertpaulsen
"The 420 refers to the number of marijuana threads per day on FR."

LOL. Too funny.

23 posted on 02/21/2003 12:26:07 PM PST by RabidBartender (Hi!)
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To: hoosierskypilot
That's a little confusing since I keep reading that they defer to state's rights concerning pot.

Many do. However, if you read State Constiutions, You will be hard pressed to find one that gives prohibitory power to the State.

Or is it because, concerning pot, libertarians don't see any conflict between CA laws and the constitution?

Sure, there is no conflict between CA laws and the Constitution since the Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to ban anything, let alone "drugs". FDR-New Deal "interpretations" of the Commerce Clause do not pass as constitutional authority, especially since the CC gives congress the power to regulate commerce between the States, not ban commerce or private possession of plants or objects.

24 posted on 02/21/2003 12:28:13 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: Lysander; hoosierskypilot
No. Some are just brain-dead.

California is a big state, and because it's so nice here, it seems to attract a lot of the idiots from the other continental 48, as well as having many home-grown. So, if you really believe that your state is fee of brain-dead dope heads (and you'd be dead wrong), you can thank sunny California for that. Meanwhile, those of us in California with at least half a brain politely request that you stop dumping your trash in our yard.

Let me give you a little background on Humboldt county. It is out in the middle of NOWHERE, along the north coast. The existence of CSU, Humboldt brings in the usual college hippy types, who then never leave because the area is somewhat of a dope smoker's paradise (partly because of them). Because the land is rich but sparsely populated up there, it's a great place to grow marijuana undetected. In fact, the state and national parks in that area are notorious for containing booby-trapped fields of marijuana right smack in the middle of nowhere, and woe to the law enforcement officers who go snooping around up there. Recreational hikers are routinely given warnings about finding these kinds of "farms".
25 posted on 02/21/2003 12:28:37 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: FreeTally
What if, hypothetically speaking, there were a conflict between a CA state law and the constitution. Where would a libertarian stand on this? Is the state law supreme, or the constitution?
26 posted on 02/21/2003 12:58:51 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: fr_freak
state is fee of brain-dead...

A little early in the day to be hitting the weed, ain't it?

Seriesly, you can't expect civilization to take kartoonfornia seriesly, can you? San Fran provides free cash to dopers. San Fran provides free sex changes to pervs. Democrats are no longer embarrassed that they are socialists. The San Jose city council is communist. The Berkeley city council is socialist. Illegal immigrants are given a big, sloppy kiss, by CA govt.

Now, you're not really going to blame your problems on easterners who migrate to kalifornicate for the free drugs and no-consequence-until-you-contract-aids-and-die-sexual immorality, are you?

27 posted on 02/21/2003 1:07:04 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: Porterville
What?!
28 posted on 02/21/2003 1:14:36 PM PST by mngalt (Where the hell did you get that?)
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To: hoosierskypilot
What if, hypothetically speaking, there were a conflict between a CA state law and the constitution. Where would a libertarian stand on this? Is the state law supreme, or the constitution?

Good question. There is a conflict between California State law and the constitution. Its California's assault weapons bans and registering laws. They violate the Constitution. All libertarians I know do not support California's usurptation of the right to keep and bear arms, which is essential to the natural right of self-sefense.

There are compartively few instances where State laws violated the Constitution as compared to federal laws that violate the constitution/states rights.

29 posted on 02/21/2003 1:16:19 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: hoosierskypilot
But Clam Beach has become increasingly popular and county officials say they want to nip it in the bud.

"...nbip it in the bud".

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEH!!!!!!!!!!

30 posted on 02/21/2003 1:30:06 PM PST by NMFXSTC
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To: FreeTally
So the libertarian chooses state law sometimes (pot) and constitutional law other times (gun ownership).

Seems messy.

31 posted on 02/21/2003 2:07:23 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
I don't think you're eligible for the Golden Doughnut if it's your own thread that gets sent to Smoky perdition.

32 posted on 02/21/2003 2:16:55 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
I don't think you're eligible for the Golden Doughnut if it's your own thread that gets sent to Smoky perdition.

You wanna translate that into English?

33 posted on 02/21/2003 2:19:22 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
Frankly, no....;^)
34 posted on 02/21/2003 2:28:26 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: mngalt
I'm no prize winning pig myself but I have camped on Clam Beach and cruised around the area several times; King Salmon is better then Clam Beach; it aint a safe place. :|
35 posted on 02/21/2003 3:32:16 PM PST by Porterville
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To: fr_freak
DW303MKMost those farms up here are owned by folks South of the border who, by growing the pot on state lands, avoid land confiscation and transportation problems. It is bad up here; the nation is actually being invaded by drug lords!!! I know people who have been shot at, and during the pot season you can see big 4x4's with garbage bags filled with pot heading up the hills to other part of CA, OR, NV...
36 posted on 02/21/2003 3:37:39 PM PST by Porterville
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To: babaloo999
Having grown up in Humboldt County, I can assure you this is no parody.

Arcata is the home of the Patchoulites.  The whole county is full of absolute freaks.

37 posted on 02/21/2003 3:46:49 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: robertpaulsen
lol...
38 posted on 02/21/2003 3:50:05 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: hoosierskypilot
Now, you're not really going to blame your problems on easterners who migrate to kalifornicate for the free drugs and no-consequence-until-you-contract-aids-and-die-

There have been 9 arrests for pot sales in Arcata in 6 weeks, all of them listed as out of state and none of them were from Mexico.

39 posted on 02/21/2003 4:10:30 PM PST by tubebender (?)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Yes, Humboldt Co. is quite famous to those who've ever read through an issue of High Times. I was just referring to the way this article was written. Sounded like they were making up loopy explanations for "420", and then the "nip it in the bud".
40 posted on 02/21/2003 4:15:07 PM PST by babaloo999
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