Skip to comments.The Undeniable Truth: Hitler was a Leftist
Posted on 02/22/2003 2:51:46 AM PST by Republican_Strategist
Hitler was a Leftist!!! Spread the word! Tell your friends! Send email! Call Rush! Fax Coulter! Give Hannity the scoop!
Fascism is, also, the brand of ideology favored by democrats.HRC is a fascist! And that is definitely left-wing!
He didn't care for Jews so he tried to kill them all. He didn't like Poles, French, Russians or Brits either.
Soon, he despised Americans. Reminds me of one of my uncles. HA!
>>Certainly, he campaigned on many of the themes of the modern Left, including antisemitism.
Balint Vazsonyi, who died recently, had similar comments:
For a long time, notwithstanding the Hitler-Stalin pact of 1939, I accepted the conventional wisdom that Communism and Nazism were opposites one on the extreme left, the other on the extreme right.
Perhaps enough time has passed to permit examination in realistic terms of these approaches to social organization, concentrating on essential characteristics and demonstrated aspirations as opposed to clichés. Decades of observation, as well as ceaseless consideration given to the core issues, compel me to look upon these seemingly opposite systems as mirror images, aspiring to a similar outcome, applying identical methods, achieving comparable subjugation of people under their control, spreading the same hopelessness in their paths. While such conclusions have certainly been reached by others, it may be less obvious that Fascism (Nazism) and Communism (Bolshevism) all share their philosophical foundations as well.
Gleichschaltung operated at once on structural and cultural levels. Structurally, the first victim was federalism: within days of Hitler's accession, the states had to cede authority to the central government. Next, the leadership and membership of every kind of organization had to become politically and racially correct. With the task of implementing structural changes assigned to a variety of agencies, as early as March 1933, a separate Cabinet Department was created for Josef Goebbels to oversee every aspect of the cultural scene, making certain that it was politically correct. Specific terms aside, the reality of all these regimes is the great flattening which is in full progress from day one. Since it is not possible to raise anyone's natural level by fiat, the alternative is to force everyone down.
It is astonishing and frightening how little time it took both in Russia and in Germany to accomplish this task. Indeed, it should be noted that demolishing what centuries had built does not require even a single generation.
The next ingredient had to do with groups. While it may appear contradictory to identify groups in a society having just experienced Gleichschaltung, contradictions do not represent obstacles in a totalitarian structure. The identity of groups was as necessary as the levelling had been in order to maintain positive and negative imaging. This constant dichotomy of egalitarianism and group hatred provided a manipulative tool as simple as it was ingenious. Hitler used race and nationality, Lenin and Stalin mostly class the outcome was the same.
However, Hitler's MOST important qualities are his love of wars of aggression and the mass murder of innocents. It is hardly appropriate to associate American Democrat liberals with these practices.
>>>However, Hitler's MOST important qualities are .and the mass murder of innocents. It is hardly appropriate to associate American Democrat liberals with these practices.<<<
Between Two Holocausts The two questions every person in that class asked at the end of the term are the same two questions that all distraught Jews have been asking since the end of World War II: 1) How can a civilized, intellectual and educated society of people, made up of individuals presumably with consciences and souls just like everyone else, choose to systematically target and eliminate another group of individuals in cold blood, without mercy or a second thought? 2)
The Third Reich leaders were experts in distortion, and indoctrination techniques. To dehumanize Jews, Nazi leaders had to suppress facts and propagandize with a barrage of lies about the Jewish people.
There is no argument that the Nazis used a variety of methods to thwart resistance to their goal, the annihilation of every Jew in Europe. However, even with our democratic government, we do not really have freedom to choose freely. System-regulated propaganda is so pervasive that individuals who initially support certain causes can eventually fall victim to the lies built within, with devastating consequences (Norma McCorvey is one example; she was deceived by the feminist pro-abortion propaganda machine. Let's not forget the many women who, seduced by "choice," opt for abortion and suffer from post abortion syndrome later on).
The dehumanization of unborn children did not occur in a vacuum.
Homicide Based on the Killing of an Unborn Child -- In this essay, Alan Wasserstrom surveys the history of laws which prosecute feticide--the destruction of a human fetus--as homicide.
I don't claim that Darwin and his theory of evolution brought on the holocaust;but I cannot deny that the theory of evolution, and the atheism it engendered, led to the moral climate that made a holocaust possible"
>>>Oh the ignorance of youth.<<<
Youth flocked to the Nazis and Communist causes and some observed the incredible "susceptibility of university-trained people in Germany to totalitarian appeals." Twenty five percent of the Nazis SS were Ph.Ds. Richard Vetterli and William E. Fort, Jr., The Socialist Revolution (Los Angeles: Clute International Corp., 1968), p. 88.
The German Workers' Party , the forerunner of the Nazi Party, espoused a right-wing ideology, like many similar groups of demobilized soldiers. Adolf Hitler joined this small political party in 1919 and rose to leadership through his emotional and captivating speeches. He encouraged national pride, militarism, and a commitment to the Volk and a racially "pure" Germany. Hitler condemned the Jews, exploiting antisemitic feelings that had prevailed in Europe for centuries. He changed the name of the party to the National Socialist German Workers' Party, called for short, the Nazi Party (or NSDAP). By the end of 1920, the Nazi Party had about 3,000 members. A year later Hitler became its official leader, or Führer.
While in prison, Hitler wrote volume one of Mein Kampf (My Struggle) , which was published in 1925. This work detailed Hitler's radical ideas of German nationalism, antisemitism, and anti-Bolshevism. Linked with Social Darwinism, the human struggle that said that might makes right, Hitler's book became the ideological base for the Nazi Party's racist beliefs and murderous practices. (only for discussion purposes and fair use)
The human struggle that said that might makes right. Sounds like clintonism to me...
Let's just say Hitler was a pederastic, queer-loving, transexual, leftist, communist,environmentalist, wife (ok he never had one)-beating, masochistic, sadistic, corrupt, alcoholic, limp-wristed, dictatorial, megalomaniacal, brain damaged, racist- necrophiliac.
>>>Until Hitler became chancellor, the Nazis were socialist.<<<
Background: This is a widely distributed Nazi pamphlet from before 1933. The title, loosely translated, is "Those Damned Nazis." At least several hundred thousand copies were printed. It is a good summary of the basic lines of Nazi propaganda just before Hitler's takeover in 1933. The booklet included five cartoons by Mjölnir, Goebbels' cartoonist, three of which I include here. Mjölnir also produced some of the most familiar Nazi posters.
The Source: Joseph Goebbels and Mjölnir, Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (Munich: Verlag Frz. Eher, 1932). Why
WhyAre We Socialists?
We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.
Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and the regaining of German freedom. Socialism therefore is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total combat brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the Fatherland!
The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism's nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.
The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of pay, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day-though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform-but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the Fatherland. The bourgeois does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeois and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.
We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers' state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.
Maybe it was the company he kept.
Which still makes it a form of socialism. Under fascism the government only controls, but does not own, the means of production. In that way, modern American Democrats, and lots of RINOs too, are more like fascistii than comunists. Both fascism and communisim are statist, whereby the needs of the state are supreme.
Then: The castle pictured above, was one of the places where the NAZI T-4 program was carried out. T-4 was a forced euthenasia program that targeted the mentally handicapped and the physically disabled and deformed. The gas chambers here became the model for the death camps.The euthenasia program was part of the larger NAZI eugenics program which evolved into 'The Final Solution' campaign we now call the NAZI Holocaust.
Now: The preborn child is often targeted for death if tests show that it may have a physical or mental handicap. This little one was killed by a suction abortion. The American eugenics program has no central sponsor but several big guns, including Planned Parenthood, NARAL (National Abortion Rights Action League and the National Abortion Federation.
Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger was a NAZI symphathiser and an ardent proponent of Eugenics. She was also known for her strong anti-black sentiments and geared her eugenicists efforts towards ahnialating the black race in America. The combined forces of these individuals and groups make up the 'Pro-Choice' campaign, a thinly veiled 'Final Solution' for the unwanted unborn child.
Then:To achieve the 'Final solution of the Jewish question in Europe', the NAZIs long before had put into motion a process to 'de-humanize'
the Jewish people. It was argued that the Jews were a sort of 'sub strata' of the human species and that these 'non-humans' could be done away with wholesale and without any moral consequence.
Now: To achieve abortion on demand, a deliberate campaign was set into motion to de-humanize the preborn child. The argument was made that the preborn child was anything but human. It was a 'zygote', 'blob of tissue', 'fetus', 'product of conception' etc. etc. It was argued that these 'non-humans' could be done away with if one so chose, and without any moral consequence. This little one was aborted after 14 weeks gestation.
Then: The NAZI SS chose who would live and who would die. Little children, the infirm, the old, the weak were inevitably sent to the gas.
Within hours, their remains were burned in ovens or thrown into mass graves.
Now: Dr's and mothers choose who will live and who will die. Within hours, their little remains will be burned in ovens,ground up, or thrown into a dumpster.
Then: The NAZIs used several methods of eliminating their 'non-humans'. Gas, torture, injection, etc. This man is about to be summarily executed
by an SS soldier with a pistol.
Now:Dr. 's have perfected several methods of eliminating these 'non-humans'. Saline injection, suction, brain suction. This one was dismembered alive in-utero.
Then: Many untold numbers resisted Hitler and the Third Reich's attempt to rule Europe with an iron fist and eventually conquer the world. They were among the first to fight and resist Hitler's 'Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe'. They were viewed by Hitler and the Third Reich as enemies of the Reich, contemptable traitors worthy of torture and death. Pictured above were members of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. All the resisters in this picture were sent to the gas.
Now: Untold numbers resist Pro-Abortion groups attempts to rule over the abortion issue with an iron fist and eventually crush all abortion resistance. These modern day resisters continue to be the first and last line of defense for the un-born child. They are viewed by ALL in the abortion movement and many in our government, our courts, our churches and large segments of the populace as enemies of this present order, contemptable traitors to the cause of womans liberation, worthy of abuse, harrasment, lawsuits and arrest. Pictured above, Joseph Scheidler, Executive Director of the Chicago based Pro-Life Action League. On April 20th, 1998, a federal jury ruled in favor of a NOW lawsuit naming Mr. Scheidler and others as conspirators guilty of violating the Federal RICO law, (Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization Act). In simple english, a federal jury said that peaceful civil pro-life protestors were on the same par as mobsters and others involved in racketeering!
Then: Men, woman and even children resisted the NAZI's in many ways. The resistance was as covert as silent prayers said in secret places and as overt as direct confrontation in the Warsaw ghetto uprising and revolts in the concentration camps where the killing chambers were.
Now: Men, woman and even children resist the abortion machine. Their resistance is as covert as silent prayers said in secret places and as overt as direct confrontation at the killing chambers. In cases of mid to late term abortions, former abortion clinic nurses and former abortionists have stated that they observed the unborn child RESISTING the attempts of the abortionists attempts to grab hold of a leg or arm with instruments or to be poked with a needle. They have witnessed this via ultra-sound imaging.
Then: The SS used several means for disposal of the dead: mass graves and cremation were used most often.
Now: Abortionists use several methods of disposal including sale of tissue, cremation, or grinding (in a garbage disposal). Sometimes they just put the baby in the garbage: these little ones were found in a dumpster behind an abortion clinic.
Convince the author of Between Two Holocausts,Bonnie Chernin Rogoff, Founder, Pro Life issues from Jews For Life
Jews For Life is an organization created to reflect the traditional Jewish pro-life perspective on abortion. Our fundamental purpose is to enlighten and inform our readers about the tragic consequences that have befallen women and our culture since Roe v. Wade was enacted into law. Jews For Life maintains that life, both born and unborn, is sacred and worthy of protection.
I just visited the only former abortion mill turned Memorial in the country: National American Holocaust Memorial in Baton Rouge, LA. 30,000 babies died there from 1986 to 1994. It reopened May 12, 1994 as the only Holocaust Memorial of it's kind in the United States. It is also a center of Christian Pro-Life activity, providing services to help women in crisis pregnancies.
The tables and killing equipment are there just like the day it closed. There is blood on the floor in one room, all the tools of death sitting (quitely).
Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests For Life, said the second Mass there after it became the Memorial. There are pictures of Father Frank standing in the former execution rooms holding some of the equipment! Unbelievable. I felt like I was walking in a nightmare.
America! You have become deadlier than Nazi Germany and Stalins' Russia combined (42,000,000+ million aborted America citizens since 1973, growing daily) But you just keep pushing your baskets through Wal-Mart like: "nuthin's happening-dude" we're the land of Liberty, everything is just fine.
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act (H.R. 503) recognizes unborn children as victims of federally prohibited crimes of violence. If someone injures or kills an unborn child while committing a violent federal crime against a pregnant woman, the assailant will be charged with a separate offense on behalf of the unborn child. The bill simply puts federal law behind the common sense recognition that when a criminal attacks a pregnant woman, and injures or kills her unborn child, he has claimed two human victims. The House passed H.R. 503 / vote: 252-172 April 26, 2001
Behaviorally speaking, there's little difference between a newborn baby and a 32-week-old fetus. A new wave of research suggests that the fetus can feel, dream, even enjoy The Cat in the Hat. The abortion debate may never be the same.
As if overturning the common conception of infancy weren't enough, scientists are creating a startling new picture of intelligent life in the womb. Among the revelations:
The Emerging Reality of Fetal Pain in Late Abortion The disturbing concept that an unborn child feels pain while being destroyed has once again entered the public conscience in England, when a pro-choice fetal researcher suggested that anesthesia should be given to comfort the fetus from pain from abortions as early as 17 weeks gestation.
ABCNEWS.com : New Ultrasound Gives Womb With a View As early as the seventh week of pregnancy, they provide a window parents have never had, and an early opportunity to bond.
The scan provides completely different information from the 2-D black and white ultrasound images that all women are offered at 12 and 20 weeks of pregnancy," said Stuart Campbell, head of obstetrics and gynecology at St. George's Hospital Medical School. "The 2-D scan is excellent at showing the structure of the internal organs but the [more-detailed scan] gives better views of the surface features.
The Silent Scream A Realtime ultrasound video tape and movie of a 12-week suction abortion is commercially available as, The Silent Scream, narrated by Dr. B. Nathanson, a former abortionist. It dramatically, but factually, shows the pre-born baby dodging the suction instrument time after time, while its heartbeat doubles in rate. When finally caught, its body being dismembered, the baby's mouth clearly opens wide - hence, the title (available from American Portrait Films, P.O. Box 19266, Cleveland, OH 44119, 216-531-8600). Proabortionists have attempted to discredit this film. A well documented paper refuting their charges is available from National Right to Life, 419 7th St. NW, Washington, DC 20004.
After showing this film to thousands of women contemplating an abortion, we can testify to its powerful impact on them to choose life for their preborn child.
Click Here to See What Abortion Looks Like From the inception of his pro-life work, Fr. Frank Pavone has been urging the mass media to show the American people what an abortion is. Abortion is a reality which is so horrific that words alone can never convey its meaning.
CBR / Abortion Pictures The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform (CBR) is working to establish prenatal justice and the right to life for the unborn, the disabled, the infirm, the aged and all vulnerable peoples through education and the development of cutting edge educational resources.
Try reading my posts and actually responding to them, bloody idiot.
When he and Stalin got together in 1939, they were both more comfortable with one another, than either ever was with any Western leaders.
For a detailed analysis of where Hitler and the Nazis were in the poltical spectrum, see The Lies Of Socialism. In every respect, Hitler lived and died on the Left.
Whatever your reason, you do admit that the life of any human fetus has more value to you than the life of any adult.
Just keep the reach of your bloody ideology away from my wife in case she should have a complicated pregnancy or delivery. I don't want your cult groupies crying for the sacrifice of, or increased risk to, my wife for the sake of the fetus. My wife means MORE to me than our unborn child.
Be sure to get your priorities straight. Many many more embryos and fetuses die from spontaneous abortions than die from elective abortions. What do you propose to do about that?
Skimming your links I could not find how they were relevant to or contradict any of my points. Maybe you will tell me in your own words, if you have any.
Fascism is an ideology in which government doesn't own the property but controls it through laws. What do we have today in this country?
Such as yourself perhaps? Now if you could just find someone to help you think...
You also say: Many many more embryos and fetuses die from spontaneous abortions than die from elective abortions. What do you propose to do about that? That is called NATURE beavus (as long as they are not caused by the abortifacient effects of many forms of chemical birth controli.e. the pill) and we dont have a problem with Gods design of nature. Havent you heard beavus, miscarriage and elective abortion are two completely different things; dont try to cloud the issue.
about IMPORTANT FACTS ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL CHEMICALS they can and do cause abortion of babiesyour babies.
Lastly, you say: Maybe you will tell me in your own words, if you have any. Go to CHRISTIAN PATRIOTS FOR LIFE they are all my words, beavus, I am the founder.
beavus, I have one question for you. On your post # 32 you said, Elective abortion is appalling. Perhaps it should be illegal. In context with everything else you have written, could you please clarify for me your position on Roe & Doe etc? I really do want to understand how you view this.
You equate the killing of an adult with the killing of a fetus? You equate the evoked terror, termination of a character, a personality, a creature with awareness of its mortality and the suffering and end it is to endure with the killing of a tabula rasa, unaware of its own suffering or even existence?
This is an argument for legalizing infanticide. Infants have not developed any character, they are essentially amoral beings, and to some extent they are not fully self-conscious, in that they do not yet have a well developed self image separate from their mother. This off course does not mean they are not conscious, which they surely are, as science and premature births have proven, third trimester fetuses are also conscious and experience pain. Parts of your argument can also apply to the legalization of the killing of the unconscious. Unconscious adults are not self aware, they are not moral beings while unconscious, they exhibit no character, they do not experience pain and they are completely unaware of their future whether positive or negative. Using your argument, should it not be legal to kill an unconscious person, who has a chance of regaining consciousness, simply beacuse they are at the moment unconscious? I think, not. Regarding the tabula rosa idea, it has been largely discredited by modern psychology. Much of who we are personality wise is determined by genetics. Yes we still make choices and are influenced by our environment, but a significant part of who a zygote will become is determined by its unigue genetics, which consequently have potential to add something very unique to society.
You value a creature who's innocence is a result lack of will, lack of ability to know, choose, or act, over an an adult who is somehow considered less valuable because its fallible experience and understanding has led it, invariably, to make some bad decisions and thus drop into the less valuable, defiled category of the sub-innocent?
I don't believe Remedy ever said any such thing. Why shouldn't a baby have the same right to make decisions and enjoy life, as an adult does? A murdered adult, has at least had the opportunity to enjoy life up until the point of the murder, whereas the aborted baby has not even been allowed to breathe his or her first breath. Why is it that we mourn more for the death of a child than we do for the death of an elderly person? It is simply beacuse the elderly person has had a chance to experience life, while the child hasn't. The same applies even more so to aborted babies.
You set up a value system whereby any human fetus is of greater value than than all adults because of relative innocence. Such a system would lead to situations where a mother would be sacrificed for the benefit of the more innocent fetus. It would mean the tragedy and terror of a vast worldwide deadly plague--worse than any the world has known--is less than the tragedy of the widespread spontaneous abortions that women who wish to get pregnant have always experienced--often without even knowing. It would mandate enormous resources to stopping the "scourge" of the spontaneous abortion.
Here you make a good point, but it does not forward your case. It is true from the pro-life perspective, that spontaneous abortions are a tragedy, and many women who experience them would agree they are tragic and traumatic. Should we spend milions of dollars, if not billions, trying to end miscarriages. Yes of course and we are already doing so with premature C-sections and operations on fetuses in the womb. But this has nothing to do with aborion, which is a decision to unnaturally end a fetus's life, making it a preventable death,simply by making the correct choice. This is obviously, the same distinction between a plague we are unable to stop and the choice of the Nazi's to kill Jews and others.
Such a system would lead to situations where a mother would be sacrificed for the benefit of the more innocent fetus.
This sentence deserves special attention. Parents often risk their life for their children, and sometimes voluntarily give up their own life to save a child. To some this seems unnatural, but other call it unselfish love.
Elective abortion is appalling. Perhaps it should be illegal. But it is sick to compare it to the Nazi holocaust.
I agree elective abortion is appalling. It should be made illegal. If we can agree, that 3rd trimester abortions are essentially wrong and equivalent to murdering an infant, then abortion since Roe vs Wade is comparable to the Holocaust. If only 5% of all abortions are in the 3rd trimester, then there have been 2.25 million 3rd trimester abortions in the US since Roe vs Wade. This is probably a fraction of the worldwide number of 3rd trimester abortions during the same period. Sadly, abortion is comparable to the Holocaust.
Just keep the reach of your bloody ideology away from my wife in case she should have a complicated pregnancy or delivery. I don't want your cult groupies crying for the sacrifice of, or increased risk to, my wife for the sake of the fetus. My wife means MORE to me than our unborn child.
I'll avoid the temptation to name call and simply say this. In this day and age, the chance of any woman, having a life threatening pregnancy is miniscule, with the exception of a tubal pregnancy, in which case the baby has no chance of living, without further advances in medicine. So you are willing to look the other way while millions of babies are murdered mostly for convenience, simply to keep open the abortion option in the highly unlikely case that your wife happens to have a life threatening pregnancy, where an abortion is the only way to spare her life. Since you like hypotheticals so much, here's one. Your wife has an incurable liver disease, and the only way to save her is a liver transplant. She is far down on the waiting list, so she decides to get pregnant so she can bear a child that will be a liver donor to her. Is it moral? Surely her life is more valuable than the baby's, at least in your reasoning.
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