[blam]

I expect these are of the Kennewick Man, Spirit Cave Man, Buhl Woman variety which are believed to be of Ainu/Jomon stock. (They exhibit many Caucasian features.)

[martin_fierro]

"Alas, poor Yorick...."

<|:)~

[blam]

Oldest Human Remains in North America Found

In 1959, the partial skeletal remains of an ancient woman estimated to be 10,000 years old were unearthed in Arlington Springs on Santa Rosa Island, one of the eight Channel Islands off the southern California coast. They were discovered by Phil C. Orr, curator of anthropology and natural history at the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History. The remains of the so-called Arlington Springs woman were recently reanalyzed by the latest radiocarbon dating techniques and were found to be approximately 13,000 years old. The new date makes her remains older than any other known human skeleton found so far in North America.

The discovery challenges the popular belief that the first colonists to North America arrived at the end of the last ice age about 11,500 years ago by crossing a Bering land bridge that connected Siberia to Alaska and northwestern Canada. The earlier date and the location of the woman's remains on the island adds weight to an alternative theory that some early settlers may have constructed boats and migrated from Asia by sailing down the Pacific coast.(Just because they came from Asia does not mean that they were Orientals)

The Arlington Springs woman lived during the end of the Pleistocene era when large herds of bison and woolly mammoths roamed the grassy plains and other extinct native American animals such as camels, horses, and saber-toothed cats were still around.

The remains of Pleistocene-era animals have been discovered on Santa Rosa Island where the Arlington Springs woman was found. In 1994, the world's most complete skeleton of a pygmy mammoth, a dwarf species, was also excavated here.

[knarf]

What?
No 'millions of years'?

Dr. Usher ... calling Dr. Usher .....

[O.C. - Old Cracker]

Yeah, Carbon14 dating is so accurate. Archeology, what a load.

[Fiddlstix]

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[Cicero]

I would be interesting if it it turns out that the Indians did a more thorough job of wiping out their white predecessors than a second wave of white migrants did to the Indians.

Many Indians don't much like the term "native American" anyway.

[Aarchaeus]

Skull shape can be modified to suit whatever is considered desirable. My older brother married a Korean woman, and he told me about when they had their first baby he saw her pick the kid up and with one hand on the forehead and the other hand at the back of the skull, start to press, to start the process of shaping his head. I understand this is still done in Oriental countries. And with a baby's soft bones being so malleable, I am sure the shaping could go the other way if the parents thought long and narrow was desirable.

Skull shape might not indicate so much about genetics.

[sandydipper]

Sorta rminds me of my mother-in-law.

[fish hawk]

How could this possibly be? I just read on a Free Republic thread just last week that the oldest signs found in the Americas was 6,000 years old. Now you know that FReepers could not possibly make a mistake! Especially a 7000 year one. <>>>>(;^)

[Porterville]

I want an Indian Number; I want a casino; and I want my college paid for. Oh, and I want one of those cool drums with the feather tied to the side.

[blam]

Ping. (Get over here and bump this article!)

[vannrox]

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[Ahban]

DNA tests on these skulls would help solve the mystery.

Were these people ancestors of the Indians, or were they replaced by them? Maybe they went extinct from some other cause before the Indians ever arrived. Remember that just about every large ground-living mammal in the Americas suddenly died out either just before or just as the Clovis culture people arrived. Did whatever wiped out those animals wipe out the pre-indian inhabitants of the Americas? Did it wipe out the people who once lived in China, which one poster pointed out "did not look like the Chineses today"?

Something happened to those animals. Some thing it was man, but much of mankind seems to have been a victim of something as well. Populations get replaced by their modern counterparts at this time.

[Bernard Marx]

This suggests archaeologists should be looking in older geological strata."

Seems like a lot of folks, including quite a few here, have been saying that for a long time. It's hard to shake up the Establishment.

[facedown]

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[Bohemund]

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[Consort]

Yale alumni?

[Cacique]

BTTFL

[carpio]

BTTT

[SunkenCiv]

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