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CBS, White House in Dispute Over Saddam Interview
reuters ^ | 2/26/03

Posted on 02/26/2003 10:04:23 AM PST by knak

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To: RGSpincich
we are known by the company we keep.

Here is Dan Rather's spiritual brother:

William Joyce - aka Lord Haw Haw:

On 26 August 1939, approximately a week before the outbreak of war, Joyce and his family fled to Berlin after a tip-off that, under the soon to be introduced emergency powers, he would be interned for the duration of the war. It was an act that would lead eventually to his death and denouncement by many, including Mosley, as a traitor. Rightly or wrongly Joyce was adamant that Britain was being led into another pointless war and Neville Chamberlain's, and subsequently Winston Churchill's, governments were betraying their people.

Friends in Germany put Joyce in contact with Dr. Erich Hetzler - Private Secretary to Germany's Foreign Minister von Ribbentrop. Two weeks after the outbreak of war he was appointed Editor and speaker for the German transmitters for Europe at Berlin's Charlottenburg. Joyce was still only 33 years old. His wartime broadcasts to England became infamous - he was nicknamed 'Lord Haw-Haw' by a Daily Express journalist because of his aristocratic nasal drawl. Unknown to the public at this time, his image was very different from the scar-faced fascist thug he was usually portrayed as.

Although it was illegal to listen to his broadcasts in Britain they became very popular with British listeners. They always began with the words "Germany calling Germany calling," which because of Joyce's broken nose sounded like: "Jarmany calling, Jarmany calling." During his heyday Joyce had almost as many listeners as the BBC - and he caused alarm with his tales of a Fifth Column in Britain and his talks on how to treat bombing wounds. He caused panic with his apparently accurate descriptions of Town Hall clocks that had stopped and how many steps there were in a particular church steeple.

After the Battle of Britain and the invasion of Russia, Joyce's broadcasts lost more and more listeners in Britain - but he still remained the number one broadcaster in Berlin and his anti-semitism never faded in its virulence - continuing to blame the war on "Jewish International Finance." For his efforts Joyce continued to live a comfortable life in Berlin and in September 1944 was awarded the Cross of War Merit 1st Class with a certificate signed by Adolf Hitler. As the war worsened he began to drink heavily and his marriage became a joke with both his wife and he having numerous affairs.

During the final stages of the war, with the Red Army approaching Berlin, Joyce moved to Hamburg. He made a final broadcast on 30 April 1945 - warning that the war would leave Britain poor and barren now that she had lost all her wealth and power in 6 years of war, leaving the Russians in control of most of Europe. He signed off with a final defiant "Heil Hitler."

Joyce was captured while going through a wood near Flensburg after the war; he received a bullet wound to the leg in the process. Joyce's fate at the gallows was then merely a formality and the British press whipped up all the hysteria they could - reminding people that he was a snarling traitor. The British Government passed the Treason Act 1945 the day before Joyce was flown back to Britain.

Although Joyce was born in the USA, brought up in Ireland and took German nationality on 26 September 1939, he was charged with treason from 3 September 1939 to 2 July 1940, the date his British passport ran out, and sentenced to death. Joyce was confined in a death cell at London's Wandsworth Prison. In the cell next door was John Amery, the son of a British lord and the man who had tried to form British expatriates and sympathetic British POW's into a Freicorp to fight on the German side. Joyce was executed five days after Amery on 3 January 1946. He was adamant and defiant to the end. He showed no emotion when confronted by news and scenes from the concentration camps, blaming the deaths on starvation and disease caused by Allied bombing of communication lines. He also scratched a swastika on the wall of his cell whilst awaiting sentence. His last public message reported by the BBC was "In death as in life, I defy the Jews who caused this last war, and I defy the powers of darkness they represent." He was not yet 40 years old when executed. He was buried in an unmarked grave in the grounds of the prison.

This brief bio omits the detail that he was smashingly drunk in his final broadcast, still championing the fallen Nazi Germany.

81 posted on 02/26/2003 2:36:52 PM PST by weegee (Boycott "See BS - Viacom (Nick, eMpTy V, VH-1, etc.)")
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
Who watches any network television?
82 posted on 02/26/2003 2:37:02 PM PST by onedoug
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To: stands2reason
Watch the Dan Rather response shots in the interview. Dan "seems" real supportive of what Saddam is saying even though he does not know Arabic.

This is one of the tricks of editing.

"Editing can alter the original meaning and context, and computers can alter the image itself. The camera can also be manipulated. At the very least, it must be turned in one direction -- only one direction at a time ... Who chooses what direction to point the camera, and why?"

Dan Rather in a 7/8/98 speech

83 posted on 02/26/2003 2:39:51 PM PST by weegee
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To: Bars4Bill
I didn’t know that Dan Rather had a mustache?
84 posted on 02/26/2003 2:52:16 PM PST by Dale 1
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Lookin' good, Benny!
85 posted on 02/26/2003 3:06:03 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: knak
I won't watch it. That way I miss Saddam AND Rather.

I a few weeks, nobody will remember the interview. In a few years (or sooner) nobody will want to hear Rather.

86 posted on 02/26/2003 3:56:45 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: ex-Texan
Need to stop the "interview" ASAP. Time to send the FBI and CIA in to demand immediate access to the taped interview. Time to inform CBS that they are under investigation for spreading propaganda about the coming militry conflict, and confiscate their tape, and possibly arrest the principals involved. Tell CBS that their federal license is up for review for abusive crapola. ....F'em. Arrest 'em. Lock them up until trial. Buncha' clowns anyway.

You must be confused, we live in the United States of America, not Iraq. Is that you Saddam?

87 posted on 02/26/2003 4:06:27 PM PST by meia
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To: knak
The time to make a reply should have been granted; but the reality is, imho that any response would give Saddam a degree of respect that he does not deserve.

Why respond to 'pond scum'?

88 posted on 02/26/2003 5:28:42 PM PST by cricket
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