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NORTH KOREAN MISSILE WARHEAD FOUND IN ALASKA
Korean Times ^ | March 4, 2003 | Staff Report

Posted on 03/04/2003 8:13:05 AM PST by ewing

North Korean Missile Warhead Found in Alaska

The warhead of a long range missile test fired by North Korea was found in the US state of Alaska, a report to the National Assembly revealed yesterday.

According to a United States document, 'The last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska,' former Japanese Prime Minister Taro Nakayama was quoted as saying in the report.

'Washington, as well as Toyko, has so far underrated Pyongyang's missile capabilities.'

(Excerpt) Read more at times.hankooki.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 1993; alaska; alaskanoil; barbrastreisand; bravosierra; caribou; japan; missile; nkorea; northkorea; nuclearthreat; pyongyang; report; republicofkorea; untappedoil; warhead
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To: Calpernia
Now that is interesting! We know that most of the time when the Clintonistas were flapping their jaws, they were lying. Could this be one of those times? Hmm? Why would the North Koreans try to launch a satellite, verses why would the Clintonites want to cover up for them launching a longer range ballistic missle. (Same thing techincally speaking anyway)
181 posted on 03/04/2003 10:37:31 AM PST by El Gato
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To: KellyAdmirer
North Korea test fires missiles into the sea and the currents run that way.

But missle warheads and fragments thereof don't float esecially well.

182 posted on 03/04/2003 10:39:50 AM PST by El Gato
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To: ewing
Is it for sale on EBAY yet?
183 posted on 03/04/2003 10:40:46 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: hchutch
The ONLY consolation we have is the fact that it was a dud.

Or a dummy. You usually don't use live warheads in tests. Especially not live nukes, but conventional or CBW warheads either. A CBW warhead might be more frajile than an HE or nuke one, so only getting a fragment wouldn't be so surprising.

184 posted on 03/04/2003 10:43:06 AM PST by El Gato
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To: mhking
"Lil' Kim?"

Oh my...(slurp, drool)that is very tight.

186 posted on 03/04/2003 10:48:29 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Eat more pork.)
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To: ewing
If I was a beting man, and I am. I would say the NK and Iraq are playing cards against us. I can't wait to see NK's response to our invasion of Iraq......
187 posted on 03/04/2003 10:48:33 AM PST by habaes corpussel
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To: viligantcitizen
Oh my...(slurp, drool)that is very tight.

Don't get me wrong, she's got enough plastic inside to make a Barbie doll, but hey, she's easy enough on the eyes...

188 posted on 03/04/2003 10:49:48 AM PST by mhking (Message to Axis of Weasels: Get in, sit down, shut up, & hold on...)
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
They pretty much all exploded in uninhabited areas,

There were some picnickers killed by one of these balloon bombs; it was one or two people, as I've read. Not totally innocuous.

189 posted on 03/04/2003 10:50:43 AM PST by happygrl
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To: Carlucci
Have I been letting my tinfoil duties slip? Oh dear!

There's looney and then there's looney.

I wouldn't doubt that NKorea alone would have pulled deliberate or accidental stunts that would have left a test nose cone or warhead or component in some of the vast reaches of Alaska.

I wouldn't doubt that China could pull puppet strings with them to result in the same scenarios.

I wouldn't doubt that our government--even under beloved Bush cold have a range of reasons to pretend to ignore such things.

What the facts are is a whole 'nother range of speculations at this point.

But NKorea is a huge hazard. China is an even bigger danger but not quite as crazy and unpredictable. China will move lots of little pieces of the puzzle under the table until they are ready to spring their trap(s). They will use NKorea in the riskier, more public, probing sorts of ways.
190 posted on 03/04/2003 10:51:08 AM PST by Quix
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To: John H K
the ONLY army in the world that vaccinates all its soldiers against smallpox

That would be Israel, as I recall.

191 posted on 03/04/2003 10:52:31 AM PST by happygrl
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To: Poohbah
Apparently this is debris from their 1998 satellite launch attempt.

Or from what the Clintonites told us was a satellite launch attempt. There seemed to be some question about that at the time, even just reading between the lines in the DoD/Bacon daily brief linked above.

192 posted on 03/04/2003 10:53:00 AM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Or from what the Clintonites told us was a satellite launch attempt. There seemed to be some question about that at the time, even just reading between the lines in the DoD/Bacon daily brief linked above.

I'm just going with the DPRK's own statement that they made at launch time, not relying at all on the Clintonites.

193 posted on 03/04/2003 10:56:41 AM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: ewing
If that's the case, we ought to show the NKs what a REAL ICBM does, and then repeat the results, oh, 50-100 times.
194 posted on 03/04/2003 11:01:03 AM PST by steveegg (The Surgeon General has determined that siding with Al-Qaeda is hazardous to your continued rule.)
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To: ewing
Let's see if the environmentalists complain to North Korea about how this could impact the caribou mating patterns.
195 posted on 03/04/2003 11:02:39 AM PST by weegee
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To: Jonathon Spectre
ping
196 posted on 03/04/2003 11:05:17 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: putupon
That'll finally get the lefties POed when they realize N. Korea can hit ANWR.

NAWWWWWW.

Lefties have neither brains nor consciences. They'll just relabel it as a generous effort on the part of the NK thugs to clean up after the North Slope oil interests.

197 posted on 03/04/2003 11:06:45 AM PST by Quix
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To: All
Partial transcript of Defense Department Briefing, 17 September, 1998:

Kenneth Bacon, Presenter:

(Initial Announcements)


With that, I'll take your questions.

Q: Could you clarify for us, there are reports out of Japan that part of this North Korean missile might have landed near Alaska. Do you have any information about that?

A: I have no information about it. First of all, as I understand it the only way we have to trace the debris of this missile is through radar tapes, and there is considerable disagreement within our own intelligence community as to how to interpret these tapes. We are continuing, our analysts are continuing, to meet to try to reach a consensus position on this and other questions stemming from that August 31st missile launch.

Q: Is there any evidence that there was a warhead that might have gotten...

A: I'm not aware that there is any evidence of a warhead.

Q: On the same point, I guess I'm confused about your statement that there is considerable disagreement in our own intelligence community because the State Department I believe has already publicly said they believe it was an attempted yet failed satellite launch, and I believe this Department said the same thing.
A: I'm talking about the dispersion of the debris. The question Susanne asked dealt with the dispersion of the debris from the missile.
Q: But there's no disagreement about what it was.

A: We believe that they tried and failed to launch a satellite. That hasn't changed.

Q: Will you then just explain a little bit further the question of the disagreement over the dispersal of the debris field. Can you quantify the ranges where the disagreement is? Nautical miles versus nautical miles?

A: No, I don't choose to do that. It's a disagreement on interpreting data at this stage. It could well be resolved. But I don't think whether it went X or X plus 1,000 kilometers is really relevant. What's relevant here is what I stressed last Tuesday and what the State Department has stressed as well, is that that three stage missile with a solid fuel third stage was an advance that shows they have greater capability to fire payloads over longer distances. That is worrisome to us. We are engaged in missile talks with the North Koreans, and we hope that we can succeed in those talks, in convincing them not to continue. But North Koreans are not easy to deal with on these issues.

Q: Is there disagreement about whether this third stage actually reentered the atmosphere or whether it simply burned up and never reentered?

A: That, I believe, is part of the disagreement -- exactly what happened to the third stage.

Q: Whether there was reentry?

A: Well, whether any debris actually reached the ocean.

Q: You said Tuesday that based on the information you had, you estimated the capability of the North Korean missile at 4,000 to 6,000 kilometers which would put it in the range of Alaska going in that direction. So I'm a little confused as to what the disagreement is about the debris field near Alaska. What's the disagreement...

A: I didn't say anything about anything near Alaska. I didn't talk about Alaska. Depending on the path the missile took, where it was aimed, it would go different places.

Our belief is that they attempted to launch a satellite and failed.

I was asked a specific question about dispersion of debris and I said that that is still being analyzed by the experts who pay attention to this stuff.

The dispersion of the debris is not necessarily an indication of what the reach of this or any other missile would be. The reach of a missile is a combination of a number of factors. One is the amount of fuel it carries, which determines how quickly it accelerates, what velocity it attains. The second is the weight of the missile, specifically the weight of the payload. There's also consideration of what that might be, how much the payload might have weighed in this situation. It takes a huge engine, a large rocket to launch a large payload, and a much smaller rocket to launch a smaller payload over whatever your distance range is.

I suppose you could make an analogy to a race car. There are three considerations. You could have a huge engine on a heavy race car that would be slower than a comparably sized engine on a much lighter race car, so the size of the engine, the propulsive unit and the weight of the vehicle are both factors. A third factor would be the solidity or strength of your vehicle. If you had a huge engine on a very light race car, it would go very fast but it would fall apart if it weren't strong. It would shake apart. So another aspect is the strength of the vehicle and its ability to withstand pressures, both going up and coming down.

So there are a number of considerations here that come into play in determining what the capability of this missile or rocket would be and the effectiveness of its payload.

Suffice it to say it is our conclusion, and we've said this many times, that what they attempted to do was a failure. They attempted, by their own admission, to launch a satellite and we believe they failed.

Q: Does the Pentagon believe that the solid fuel capability was indigenously developed or acquired?

A: I think that we do not have a theory on that at this stage.

Q: Is there still any evidence that the North Koreans, any evidence of activity around that launch site that could indicate preparation for another launch?

A: Not that I'm aware of. No.

Q: Is this missile and the dispersion patterns and all of that the reason for Mr. Hamre's sudden trip...

A: No. That trip I believe had been planned before. He's going to both Japan and Korea. He's meeting with troops in both places. As you know, we have 100,000 troops forward deployed in Asia, about 100,000 troops, and he's going to meet with some of those troops.


Methinks the Clinton regime concealed this little bit of information for the future President to fix too.



198 posted on 03/04/2003 11:10:02 AM PST by judicial meanz (If you sacrfice your freedom and liberty for a feeling of security, you dont deserve to be free)
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To: ewing
"According to a United States document, 'The last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska,' former Japanese Prime Minister Taro Nakayama was quoted as saying in the report."

"IF" this is true, folk have been saying this for a long time.

199 posted on 03/04/2003 11:10:40 AM PST by habaes corpussel
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To: dead
LOL! Bat Boy!!!
200 posted on 03/04/2003 11:36:04 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government.)
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