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American Bishop Bars Faithful from War Effort
Catholic World News ^ | March 18, 2003 | staff

Posted on 03/18/2003 4:56:14 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah

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To: Arthur McGowan
He's right about the principles involved, and he has the authority, as a bishop to teach those principles. A Catholic (or anyone else) is forbidden ever do anything immoral, and being commanded to do something immoral does not authorize anyone to obey that command.

Since the bishop has distorted moral priorities regarding the justice of this war, he is completely misapplying the principles involved.

It seems to me that he is vainly trying to make God's Word support his own personal bias, which is an abuse of his position in the Church.

81 posted on 03/18/2003 6:04:44 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
A canon lawyer's look at the issue raised.
82 posted on 03/18/2003 6:04:50 PM PST by Nora
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To: Arthur McGowan
Before you allowed this one priest to drive you out of the Church, did you ever take the time to find out if what he told your mother was actually TRUE?

Are you calling my mother a liar? Or are you calling the priest a liar? Which one?

83 posted on 03/18/2003 6:05:07 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
This is amazing.

Truly, the Catholic church has been over-run with leftists and is a state of meltdown. I honestly don't know how conservative Catholics can stomach it.

84 posted on 03/18/2003 6:05:21 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)
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To: Dog Gone
I am very worried about our military men and women. This is not something they need to hear right now. I hope the Catholic clergy near them will support them 100%. This is really upsetting to me.
85 posted on 03/18/2003 6:06:13 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Arthur McGowan
Conservababe asks a very good question, and I understand her disgust.

You should probably reconsider the tone with which you asked that, and should choose your words a bit more carefully.

86 posted on 03/18/2003 6:07:27 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (the NCAA is the UN of college athletics - arrogant toward the good, toothless against the bad)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
One question.

What did he say about Serbia?
87 posted on 03/18/2003 6:07:45 PM PST by FrogMom (God bless our armed forces, their spouses and children, every one!)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Here's the whole story, straight off this religious 'peacenik' web site:

Monday 3/10/03 Catholic Pastoral Letter Condemns War On Iraq Absolutely

Introduction
The enclosed Pastoral Letter was read from all the pulpits of all the Romanian Catholic Churches in the United States on Sunday, March 9, 2003. It was also mailed to each Romanian Catholic in the U.S.

It represents an extraordinary moment in the Catholic Church in the U.S. and perhaps in the Church in the wider world. Here is a bishop with full Apostolic authority, who is an Ordinary not an Auxiliary, officially proclaiming to the people entrusted to his spiritual care by Christ, that direct participation in a war of their nation would be mortal sin and therefore explicitly and absolutely forbidden. This has never been done in modern Catholic Church history. It is the equivalent of a Church being informed by its highest spiritual authority that it is under a Divine mandate to engage in nonviolent civil disobedience, if legally required to participate in this war.

This is not a bishop functioning as a political lobbyist, nor is it a bishop simply giving good advise to his people, nor is it a bishop functioning as a theological disputant with anyone inside or outside his Church. This is a bishop declaring to those who are actively one with him by Baptism and by faith in Christ and His Church, that as the final authority in matters of faith and morals in their Community, this war is intrinsically evil and therefore morally impermissible for them.

It should be noted that Bishop Botean's declaration is binding only on the Romanian Catholics of the United States. No member of any other Catholic diocese in the U.S. or elsewhere is bound in conscience to accept or to adhere to it. Each bishop must stand before the Cross and discern what the truth of Jesus Christ is on this situation for himself as bishop and for those souls specifically given to him for their sanctification and eternal salvation. No bishop can bind in conscience Catholics of another diocese—except for the Bishop of Rome or all bishops formally gathered in an Ecumenical Council.
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Bishop Botean is a Summa Cum Laude graduate in Philosophy of The Catholic University of America. Any suggestion, that he cannot appreciate the complexities, niceties and nuances of the concepts presented to justify a war as being in conformity with Catholic teaching, is patently without merit.

Center for Christian Nonviolence, 167 Fairhill Drive, Wilmington DE 19808-4312, Phone: 302-235-2925

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Romanian Catholic Diocese of Canton
Office of the Bishop

March 7, 2003

Beloved brothers and sisters in our Lord, Jesus Christ,

Great Lent, which we now begin, is traditionally a time in which we take stock of ourselves, our lives, and the direction in which we are headed. In the common language of the Catholic Church, it is a time for a deep “examination of conscience” as we fast, pray, and otherwise attend to the call for repentance issued by the Church for the forty days before we celebrate the Resurrection of her savior, Jesus Christ.

A serious examination of conscience requires that we recognize that there are times in the life of each Christian when one’s faith is seriously and urgently challenged by the events taking place around him or her. Like it or not, these challenges show us just how seriously—or not—we are living our baptismal commitment to Christ. Most of us, most of the time, would prefer to keep our heads in the sand, ostrich-like, than to face truths about ourselves. This is why the Church has found it so vitally necessary to have seasons, such as Lent, during which we must pull our heads out of the sand and take a good, hard look at the world around us and how we are living in it.

We cannot fail, as we examine our consciences, to take into account the most critical challenge presented to our faith in our day: the fact that the United States government is about to initiate a war against the people of Iraq. For Romanian Catholics who are also United States citizens, this raises an immediate and unavoidable moral issue of major importance. Specifically stated the issue is this: does the killing of human beings in this war constitute murder?

The Holy Gospels reveal our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ to be nonviolent. In them, Jesus teaches a Way of life that his disciples are to follow, a Way of nonviolent love of friends and enemies. However, since the latter half of the fourth century the Church has proposed standards that, if met, would make it morally permissible for Christians to depart from that way in order to engage in war. These standards have come to be known in popular language as the “Catholic Just War Theory.”

According to this theory, if all of the conditions it specifies are adhered to, the killing that is done in fighting a war may be justifiable and therefore morally allowable. This theory also teaches that if any one of the standards is not met, then the killing that occurs is unjust and therefore morally impermissible. Unjust killing is by definition murder. Murder is intrinsically evil and therefore absolutely forbidden, no matter what good may seem to come of it.

The Church teaches that good ends do not justify the use of evil means. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states this principle succinctly: “One may never do evil so that good may result from it.” (1789) One contemporary example of this would be abortion. Abortion is intrinsically evil; hence regardless of the good that may seem to issue from it, a Catholic may never participate in it.

Paragraph 2309 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: “The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy” (emphasis added). Since war is about the mass infliction of death and suffering on children of God, Christians can enter into it and fight in it only if the war in question strictly meets all the criteria of the just war theory, and only if these same standards are likewise meticulously observed in the course of fighting the war. Vague, loose, freewheeling, conniving, relaxed interpretations of Catholic just war theory and its application are morally illegitimate because of “the gravity of such a decision.”

“The evaluation of these conditions of the just war theory for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good,” states the Catechism. (2309) However, the nation-state is never the final arbiter or authority for the Catholic of what is moral or for what is good for the salvation of his or her soul. What is legal can be evil and often has been. Jesus Christ and his Church, not the state, are the ultimate informers of conscience for the Catholic.

This is why the Church teaches as a norm of conscience the following: “If rulers were to enact unjust laws or take measures contrary to the moral order such arrangements would not be binding in conscience.” (Catechism 1903) She also warns “Blind obedience [to immoral laws] does not suffice to excuse those who carry them out” (Catechism 2313). When a moral conflict arises between Church teaching and secular morality, when contradictory moral demands are made upon a Catholic’s conscience, he or she “must obey God rather than man” (Acts 5:29).

Because such a moment of moral crisis has arisen for us, beloved Romanian Catholics, I must now speak to you as your bishop. Please be aware that I am not speaking to you as a theologian or as a private Christian voicing his opinion, nor by any means am I speaking to you as a political partisan. I am speaking to you solely as your bishop with the authority and responsibility I, though a sinner, have been given as a successor to the apostles on your behalf. I am speaking to you from the deepest chambers of my conscience as your bishop, appointed by Jesus Christ in his Body, the Church, to help shepherd you to sanctity and to heaven. Never before have I spoken to you in this manner, explicitly exercising the fullness of authority Jesus Christ has given his Apostles “to bind and to loose,” (cf. John 20:23), but now “the love of Christ compels” me to do so (2 Corinthians 5:14). My love for you makes it a moral imperative that I not allow you, by my silence, to fall into grave evil and its incalculable temporal and eternal consequences.

Humanly speaking, I would much prefer to keep silent. It would be far, far easier for me and my family simply to let events unfold as they will, without commentary or warning on my part. But what kind of shepherd would I be if I, seeing the approach of the wolf, ran away from the sheep (cf. John 10:12-14)? My silence would be cowardly and, indeed, sinful. I believe that Christ, whose flock you are, expects more than silence from me on behalf of the souls committed to my protection and guidance.

Therefore I, by the grace of God and the favor of the Apostolic See Bishop of the Eparchy of St. George in Canton, must declare to you, my people, for the sake of your salvation as well as my own, that any direct participation and support of this war against the people of Iraq is objectively grave evil, a matter of mortal sin. Beyond a reasonable doubt this war is morally incompatible with the Person and Way of Jesus Christ. With moral certainty I say to you it does not meet even the minimal standards of the Catholic just war theory.

Thus, any killing associated with it is unjustified and, in consequence, unequivocally murder. Direct participation in this war is the moral equivalent of direct participation in an abortion. For the Catholics of the Eparchy of St. George, I hereby authoritatively state that such direct participation is intrinsically and gravely evil and therefore absolutely forbidden.

My people, it is an incontestable Biblical truth that a sin left unnamed will propagate itself with lavish zeal. We must call murder by its right name: murder. God and conscience require nothing less if the face of the earth is to be renewed and if the salvation offered by Our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ is to reach all people, including us. We have no choice before the face of God but to speak unambiguously to the moral situation with which we are confronted and to live according to the Will of Him who gazes at us from the Cross (Catechism 1785).

Let us pray for each other and take care of each other in this spiritually trying time. To this end our Church is wholeheartedly committed to the support of any of our members in the military or government service who may be confronted with situations of legal jeopardy due to their need to be conscientious objectors to this war. Let us also pray in earnest with the Mother of God, who knows what it is to have her Child destroyed before her eyes, that the destruction of families, lives, minds and bodies that war unleashes will not take place.

Finally, my brothers and sisters in Christ, be assured that Our Lord is aware that our “No” to murder and our prayers for peace are our faithful response to his desires. He will remember this forever and ever, and so it is to him we must now turn, in him we must now trust.

Amen.

Sincerely in Christ-God,

(Most Reverend) John Michael Botean a sinner, bishop
88 posted on 03/18/2003 6:13:02 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Arthur McGowan
"My point being: Catholic moral theology is all about Jesus. "

No. I was a catholic. catholic moral theology has little to do with Jesus and more to do with that gigantic political organization called the vatican.

I left catholosism becasue it is pretty on the outside, but rotted and decayed inside. Laws (traditions)of men, not love of Christ, is what powers the catholic church.

89 posted on 03/18/2003 6:13:17 PM PST by griffin
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To: Nora
Good link, thanks.
90 posted on 03/18/2003 6:13:47 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
I doubt the Catholic clergy with the troops in Kuwait are saying anything like this.

If they are, they should be court-martialed.

91 posted on 03/18/2003 6:14:38 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
No, not that big. This is for all Byzantine-rite Romanian Catholics, not all Roman Catholics. There are approximately 10,000 Romanian Catholic faithful in the Americas and Europe.

Bishop Botean acknowledged that the Catechism of the Catholic Church (2309) identifies public authorities as the final judges of whether military action is justified.

I guess until Bishop Botean decides he wants something different.
92 posted on 03/18/2003 6:17:22 PM PST by aruanan
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To: jdogbearhunter
A life long Catholic of the Roman Catholic or Romanian Catholic church?
93 posted on 03/18/2003 6:18:05 PM PST by aruanan
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To: x1stcav
This is the Romanian not Roman Catholic Church.
94 posted on 03/18/2003 6:19:00 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
 
The case for a just war against Saddam
War would be far costlier then. It is precisely because Iraq probably does not yet have nuclear weapons that the proportionality condition can still be met.   Seamus Murphy SJ teaches philosophy at Milltown Institute. He is a Jesuit.

I say let's settle it once and for all with a pay-per-view EWTN Clergy Boxing Match between Seamus and Bishop John Michael Botean    ©¿©
95 posted on 03/18/2003 6:19:29 PM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: aruanan

Thank you for pointing this out..

Perhaps this isn't the crisis it first appeared to be.

96 posted on 03/18/2003 6:19:44 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)
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To: jwalsh07
This is the Romanian Catholic, not the Roman Catholic Church. There are about 10,000 members of this church in North America and Europe.
97 posted on 03/18/2003 6:20:08 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
It is things like this that are the reason that many people want to have nothing to do with organized religion. It has seemed that a lot of church heirarchy get overcome with their own importance, a develop dogmatic positions that do not allow for practical solutions to problems. Faith has an important part in giving people guidance, but doing the right thing always requires a strong sense of the practical.
98 posted on 03/18/2003 6:22:14 PM PST by punster
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To: Jhoffa_
No, not that big. This is for all Byzantine-rite Romanian Catholics, not all Roman Catholics. There are approximately 10,000 Romanian Catholic faithful in the Americas and Europe.

It was my understanding that the Catholic Church was united. For if they were not then we would have all the divisions you see in the protestant denominations.

99 posted on 03/18/2003 6:23:01 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: DensaMensa
I wonder if he has ever spoken out against abortion in such a powerful matter, or for that matter even of the aberations the American bishops have allowed in the Church since Vatican II.

Next thing you know they will tell us it is a mortal sin to kneel for Communion.

100 posted on 03/18/2003 6:23:19 PM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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